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Old 2007-05-24, 04:06 PM   #66
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Originally Posted by JC View Post
I think the arguement came from what makes a better track car.
Actually here's where the argument came from:

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The GC was designed specifically to be a race car chassis. It wasn't until the GD that they designed it to fit 20 inch rims and maximize BOV sound projection instead of track performance.
You stated that the GC was designed to be a race car, then you (sarcastically) implied that the GD was designed to be a street car, thus making it a worse platform for racing. I pointed out that, with the exception of the looks of the car, the GD was actually an improvement on the design of the GC with regards to racing.

If you want to talk about "track cars" and not "race cars" then things are a little different. On a track car, where modifications aren't nearly as extreme as they are in the WRC, and where the minor differences in chassis rigidity and CG between the two chassis with installed roll cages aren't as big a deal, and where there are no minimum weight rules, clearly the GC (or GM2 for that matter here in the US) is the better platform. The weight difference greatly makes up for the softer chassis. If my WRX's drivetrain were installed in a GM2, the car would probably be 400 lbs lighter, because the car itself is lighter, plus at under 3000 lbs, I could get away with a lighter roll cage and still be legal.

But in terms of the WRC, who's homologation rules prompted the changes between the GC and GD, the GD is the better race car chassis. In fact, the only thing worse about the GD (it's looks) were a result of the non-racing program. Basically, you're saying that Subaru made the car stiffer so it'd sell better, when in reality they made uglier so it'd sell better... and they F'd that up. If it weren't for the turbo being offered in the US for the first time, the bugeye would have been a huge flop just 'cause it's ugly, not 'cause it's an inferior platform.

As long as you're willing to truly believe in function over form, you'd see the GD is the superior Impreza over the GC in terms of going racing in the WRC.
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