Vehicle issues - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

NevadaSTi · 2008-07-24, 02:35 PM

Ok, as some of you may recall, I blew up the motor in 4Runner last Sept. Well, last week I blew a head gasket on the brand new motor. Wow, my luck is just so great with vehicles now. I love it.

Anyway, the motor is under warranty and instead of just having the headgasket replaced, the reman. company wants the mechanic to remove the engine and return it. They have decided that they will send me another motor instead of just fixing the head gasket. Which makes sense to me, as there was anti-freeze in the oil which means possible bearing damage.

So, I called the mechanic up and told him not to work on the truck. Now I have to figure out how to come up with an extra $1200 for labor, or do it myself.

Basically, I have been riding a bycicle back and forth to work all week. This sucks.

Any ideas?

sperry · 2008-07-24, 02:47 PM

They should be warrantying the labor as well. If it's their fault the motor broke, and they're requiring you to pull it, they need to pay for it.

Tell the shop to get in touch with the guys that are warrantying the motor.

BOO · 2008-07-24, 02:55 PM

This may not be of any help but this is where I would always go to seek info on my Toys
Either way Good Luck. :
http://toyota-4runner.org/

http://www.yotatech.com/forumindex.php

NevadaSTi · 2008-07-24, 03:02 PM

Unfortunately, the mechanic tried that route already. I guess that is what I get for going with a cheaper remanufacturer. Their warranty specifically states, does not cover labor.

Dean · 2008-07-24, 03:42 PM

Guess the options are pull it yourself, or find a cheaper shop/mechanic.

Kunikos · 2008-07-25, 12:45 PM

If someone came out and fixed your plumbing but used materials that broke, would you seriously pay them a second time to fix it again with new materials? I don't see how it's ethical to charge you for something that wasn't your fault. It's not your problem that they used something that didn't warranty their work.

100_Percent_Juice · 2008-07-25, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunikos

If someone came out and fixed your plumbing but used materials that broke, would you seriously pay them a second time to fix it again with new materials? I don't see how it's ethical to charge you for something that wasn't your fault. It's not your problem that they used something that didn't warranty their work.

The problem wasn't caused by their work otherwise I assume they would have paid to fix it. If someone does work for you and the "work" part of the job is good, why wouldn't you have them work for you again. I doubt anyone knew the motor was going to splode. You should always read warranty paperwork. Hell, you should always read through any paperwork that you get.

NevadaSTi · 2008-07-27, 06:48 PM

It is definetly not the mechanic's fault. With this motor I had some issues with it leaking oil, a lot of oil. They spent three different days of about 6 hours each fizing the issues. We thought we had it fixed, then after a few days it was still leaking. So, we put florescant die in it and found where it was leaking another time. We got those issues fixed, and I didn't have to pay a dime.

It lookes like I will be out of a vehicle for a couple weeks now. So, my legs are getting quite the workout from riding around everywhere. I am actually enjoying it enough, that I might get my own bike.

ScottyS · 2008-07-27, 07:21 PM

Man, that sucks. Sure wish I could ride to work, though. I miss it.

2008-07-24, 02:35 PM	#1
NevadaSTi EJ251 Real Name: Brian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minden, Nv. Posts: 989 Car: 1994 Toyota 4Runner Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once	Vehicle issues Ok, as some of you may recall, I blew up the motor in 4Runner last Sept. Well, last week I blew a head gasket on the brand new motor. Wow, my luck is just so great with vehicles now. I love it. Anyway, the motor is under warranty and instead of just having the headgasket replaced, the reman. company wants the mechanic to remove the engine and return it. They have decided that they will send me another motor instead of just fixing the head gasket. Which makes sense to me, as there was anti-freeze in the oil which means possible bearing damage. So, I called the mechanic up and told him not to work on the truck. Now I have to figure out how to come up with an extra $1200 for labor, or do it myself. Basically, I have been riding a bycicle back and forth to work all week. This sucks. Any ideas? __________________ The last living thing on earth will be me. I'll step on the last cockroach.

2008-07-24, 02:47 PM	#2
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	They should be warrantying the labor as well. If it's their fault the motor broke, and they're requiring you to pull it, they need to pay for it. Tell the shop to get in touch with the guys that are warrantying the motor. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2008-07-24, 02:55 PM	#3
BOO EJ205 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 2,076 Car: 12+tires Class: Spec. without hard work, nothing grows but weeds	This may not be of any help but this is where I would always go to seek info on my Toys Either way Good Luck. : http://toyota-4runner.org/ http://www.yotatech.com/forumindex.php __________________ LOL.. The other White Meat ... lol ------------------------------------------------ subaru(STi) is a boys car, mitsubishi(evo) is a man's car - Jeremy (Top Gear) GC,GD,GM Last edited by BOO; 2008-07-24 at 02:59 PM.

2008-07-24, 03:02 PM	#4
NevadaSTi EJ251 Real Name: Brian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minden, Nv. Posts: 989 Car: 1994 Toyota 4Runner Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once	Unfortunately, the mechanic tried that route already. I guess that is what I get for going with a cheaper remanufacturer. Their warranty specifically states, does not cover labor. __________________ The last living thing on earth will be me. I'll step on the last cockroach.

2008-07-24, 03:42 PM	#5
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Guess the options are pull it yourself, or find a cheaper shop/mechanic. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2008-07-25, 12:45 PM	#6
Kunikos EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: QT3 Forums Posts: 213 Car: Three-Dead-Hooker-Trunk Devilmobile Xfire: Kunikos	If someone came out and fixed your plumbing but used materials that broke, would you seriously pay them a second time to fix it again with new materials? I don't see how it's ethical to charge you for something that wasn't your fault. It's not your problem that they used something that didn't warranty their work. __________________ "What can change the nature of a man?" - Ravel Puzzlewell

2008-07-27, 06:48 PM	#8
NevadaSTi EJ251 Real Name: Brian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minden, Nv. Posts: 989 Car: 1994 Toyota 4Runner Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once	It is definetly not the mechanic's fault. With this motor I had some issues with it leaking oil, a lot of oil. They spent three different days of about 6 hours each fizing the issues. We thought we had it fixed, then after a few days it was still leaking. So, we put florescant die in it and found where it was leaking another time. We got those issues fixed, and I didn't have to pay a dime. It lookes like I will be out of a vehicle for a couple weeks now. So, my legs are getting quite the workout from riding around everywhere. I am actually enjoying it enough, that I might get my own bike. __________________ The last living thing on earth will be me. I'll step on the last cockroach.

2008-07-27, 07:21 PM	#9
ScottyS EJ205 Real Name: It is real! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RNO Posts: 2,367 Car: 1998 Impreza Wagon, 1991 Legacy Turbo Sedan, 2003 Nissan Xterra Class: tvFree Yes, I'll fix it for you. Again.	Man, that sucks. Sure wish I could ride to work, though. I miss it. __________________ "Trend Number One is that people aren't getting any smarter." Dogbert

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