2 questions? - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

2KsilvER25rS · 2006-10-23, 05:40 PM

1st- My starter is going out, and i need to know if i can use one from a 1.8L. My room mate has one from his swap. Is it possible to use?

2nd- I want to turbo charge my 2.5rs without swapping motors. I know the AVO kit is available for my ride but the funds arnt. What is the cheapest and safest way to go about it?

thanks!

Kevin M · 2006-10-23, 05:53 PM

1) If it bolts up, it should work. They all run off 12 volt batteries.

2) Cheap and safe are on opposite ends of the turbocharging spectrum. If you don't have another car or the funds to immediately fix a blown motor, don't do it. If you do it anyway, use a kit that comes with some kind of fuel management beyond a pressure regulator, and better yet something like a Link that will control spark as well. But really, if you want a turbo, spend the money for a proper swap or just buy a WRX.

I know none of that is what you want to hear, but it's the only advice I would give.

sperry · 2006-10-23, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KsilvER25rS

1st- My starter is going out, and i need to know if i can use one from a 1.8L. My room mate has one from his swap. Is it possible to use?

2nd- I want to turbo charge my 2.5rs without swapping motors. I know the AVO kit is available for my ride but the funds arnt. What is the cheapest and safest way to go about it?

thanks!

Cheap and Safe for an aftermarket turbo setup are pretty much mutually exclusive. IMO, the cheapest "safe" way to do it, is to get a complete WRX motor, and swap it in there.

2KsilvER25rS · 2006-10-23, 07:00 PM

yah i kinda figured as much. i will just continue to pay off some stuff and then trade it in on a WRX or an STi later. so it doesnt matter what size motor the starter came off of? just as long as it bolts up?

van · 2006-10-23, 08:18 PM

your mom
her face bolts right up

JonnydaJibba · 2006-10-24, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kidnappervan

your mom
her face bolts right up

How many miles are on your motor? The safest way is probably just to swap a turbo motor in your car as the NA RS motor has a high compression ratio and doesn't like to handle boost all that well. You can turbo it, you just can't go crazy. And by crazy I mean anything over like 6 or 7 lbs of boost.

2KsilvER25rS · 2006-10-24, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kidnappervan

your mom
her face bolts right up

now that was just gay! come on now kidnapperVAN.

2KsilvER25rS · 2006-10-24, 10:54 AM

ok so i have another question. my check engine light is on and the code is for my knock sensor. could that be from my starter having a terrible time turning over or not? or could my starting problem come from a faulty knock sensor? bare with me. im still learning my suby.thanks.

MPREZIV · 2006-10-24, 10:57 AM

The knock sensor is the only code in there? Most cars I've seen won't turn on the MIL for a knock sensor... but now that I think of it, I don't know that I've EVER seen a KS code in a subi... ?

Either way, if the starter won't even turn over, the knock sensor is NOT the problem!

sperry · 2006-10-24, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2KsilvER25rS

ok so i have another question. my check engine light is on and the code is for my knock sensor. could that be from my starter having a terrible time turning over or not? or could my starting problem come from a faulty knock sensor? bare with me. im still learning my suby.thanks.

Um, your car could be knocking?

Kevin M · 2006-10-24, 11:02 AM

My last RS had a knock sensor code when I bought it. Never came back after the ECU was reset during the clutch install.

AFAIK, the RS ECU doesn't do the blinky light/limp-home mode for excessive knocking... and it's awfully hard to get a more or less stock EJ25 to knock anyway. But, the CEL is not related to the starter problem, unless there's some weird circuit in there that makes no sense to those of us who don't engineer Subarus for a living.

2KsilvER25rS · 2006-10-24, 11:08 AM

the car does start. sounds horrible. but i have been told that if my starter is going out, a KS code will pop up sometimes. Bavarian told me that. they said that when a starter is about to go out, it vibrates when turning causing the KS code to pop up. does that sound right? it confuses the crap out of me. ive never herd of that happening before.the motor sounds and feels fine, a little bit of valve chatter is about it.

Kevin M · 2006-10-24, 11:23 AM

Sounds plausible. I didn't think the knock sensor was active at such low RPM.

MPREZIV · 2006-10-24, 11:34 AM

On *most* vehicles, the KS does not work while cranking, as REGULAR cranking could sound like knocking to a piezo crystal...

murphy · 2006-10-24, 12:59 PM

Here is another place for RS turbo kits http://www.forcedairtech.com/
another one.. http://www.spomotorsports.com/Catego...stomerID=38012

JonnydaJibba · 2006-10-24, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Did you know that "warranty repair" and "sodomy" are the SAME WORD in Japanese!?

Hahahahaha, I never knew there was so many comedic geniuses at Nissan

2006-10-23, 05:40 PM	#1
2KsilvER25rS EJ18 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: reno,eNVy Posts: 33 Car: 2000 subaru impreza 2.5rs no regrets! take it as you get it!	new question 1st- My starter is going out, and i need to know if i can use one from a 1.8L. My room mate has one from his swap. Is it possible to use? 2nd- I want to turbo charge my 2.5rs without swapping motors. I know the AVO kit is available for my ride but the funds arnt. What is the cheapest and safest way to go about it? thanks! __________________ live your life 1 brake pad at a time! Last edited by 2KsilvER25rS; 2006-10-24 at 10:54 AM.

2006-10-23, 05:53 PM	#2
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	1) If it bolts up, it should work. They all run off 12 volt batteries. 2) Cheap and safe are on opposite ends of the turbocharging spectrum. If you don't have another car or the funds to immediately fix a blown motor, don't do it. If you do it anyway, use a kit that comes with some kind of fuel management beyond a pressure regulator, and better yet something like a Link that will control spark as well. But really, if you want a turbo, spend the money for a proper swap or just buy a WRX. I know none of that is what you want to hear, but it's the only advice I would give. __________________ FWD is the new AWD Last edited by Kevin M; 2006-10-23 at 05:56 PM.

2006-10-23, 07:00 PM	#4
2KsilvER25rS EJ18 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: reno,eNVy Posts: 33 Car: 2000 subaru impreza 2.5rs no regrets! take it as you get it!	yah i kinda figured as much. i will just continue to pay off some stuff and then trade it in on a WRX or an STi later. so it doesnt matter what size motor the starter came off of? just as long as it bolts up? __________________ live your life 1 brake pad at a time!

2006-10-24, 10:54 AM	#8
2KsilvER25rS EJ18 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: reno,eNVy Posts: 33 Car: 2000 subaru impreza 2.5rs no regrets! take it as you get it!	ok so i have another question. my check engine light is on and the code is for my knock sensor. could that be from my starter having a terrible time turning over or not? or could my starting problem come from a faulty knock sensor? bare with me. im still learning my suby.thanks. __________________ live your life 1 brake pad at a time!

2006-10-24, 10:57 AM	#9
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	The knock sensor is the only code in there? Most cars I've seen won't turn on the MIL for a knock sensor... but now that I think of it, I don't know that I've EVER seen a KS code in a subi... ? Either way, if the starter won't even turn over, the knock sensor is NOT the problem! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-10-23, 08:18 PM	#5
van SECCS Brewmeister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: on the edge of a marsh Posts: 1,451	your mom her face bolts right up

2006-10-24, 11:02 AM	#11
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	My last RS had a knock sensor code when I bought it. Never came back after the ECU was reset during the clutch install. AFAIK, the RS ECU doesn't do the blinky light/limp-home mode for excessive knocking... and it's awfully hard to get a more or less stock EJ25 to knock anyway. But, the CEL is not related to the starter problem, unless there's some weird circuit in there that makes no sense to those of us who don't engineer Subarus for a living. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-10-24, 11:08 AM	#12
2KsilvER25rS EJ18 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: reno,eNVy Posts: 33 Car: 2000 subaru impreza 2.5rs no regrets! take it as you get it!	the car does start. sounds horrible. but i have been told that if my starter is going out, a KS code will pop up sometimes. Bavarian told me that. they said that when a starter is about to go out, it vibrates when turning causing the KS code to pop up. does that sound right? it confuses the crap out of me. ive never herd of that happening before.the motor sounds and feels fine, a little bit of valve chatter is about it. __________________ live your life 1 brake pad at a time!

2006-10-24, 11:23 AM	#13
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Sounds plausible. I didn't think the knock sensor was active at such low RPM. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-10-24, 11:34 AM	#14
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	On most vehicles, the KS does not work while cranking, as REGULAR cranking could sound like knocking to a piezo crystal... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-10-24, 12:59 PM	#15
murphy EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: RENO Posts: 484 Car: 03 evo, 06 R6	Here is another place for RS turbo kits http://www.forcedairtech.com/ another one.. http://www.spomotorsports.com/Catego...stomerID=38012 Last edited by murphy; 2006-10-24 at 01:03 PM.

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