Azenis RT-615 Price drop @ DT - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Dean · 2006-02-26, 12:17 AM

Discount Tire finally dropped the price on the 615s....
Falken RT-615s at DT

Including Shipping!

Size........................Price
205/40R-16 83W XL B $92.00
205/40R-17 84W XL B $105.00
205/50R-15 89W XL B $85.00
215/40R-17 87W XL B $112.00
225/40R-18 92W XL B $140.00
225/45R-17 94W XL B $120.00
225/45R-18 91W BLK $169.00
235/40R-18 95W XL B $148.00
245/40R-18 97W XL B $161.00
245/45R-17 99W XL B $123.00
255/40R-17 94W BLK $135.00
255/40R-18 95W BLK $165.00
275/35R-18 95W BLK $224.00
275/40R-17 98W BLK $155.00

sperry · 2006-02-26, 12:31 AM

about time... Too bad I already paid the shipping from edgeracing...

M3n2c3 · 2006-02-26, 11:52 AM

I checked out both DT and ER. . . for a set of 225/45/17, ER seems cheaper overall right now. At DT, it's $120/tire ($480), plus $12 for valve stems, a $4 "environmental fee," and $38 in NV state sales tax. Ground shipping is free. $534 total.

Edge Racing, on the other hand, is charging $112/tire ($44

, and ground shipping - at least to Dayton - is quoted at only $71. Apparently valve stems are included. $519 total.

I am curious about Discount Tire's "Certificates for Free Replacement," though - with the way tires get worn while autocrossing, is that even worth it?

Dean · 2006-02-26, 12:25 PM

Unless you buy solid aluminum stems, your installer should include stems, don't pay DT for them.

ER does not include any valve stems, and you can just remove them from the DT order. Tax, and EF are becasue they have a store in LV, so they have to charge NV fees.

So the result is $522 DT vs. $519 ER.

The DT advantage is that they come from NV, or Arizona instead of Florida.

Actually, the best deal right now is from Vulcan Tire. www.vulcantire.com

They are a good shop that specialies in motorsports tires as well.

$112ea. + $46 shipping from Salt Lake, so $494 to your door and probably 1-2 days max shipping.

doubleurx · 2006-02-26, 01:07 PM

Thanks for the research Dean. I'm getting these tires for both the carrera and the sti.

Dean · 2006-02-26, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx

Thanks for the research Dean. I'm getting these tires for both the carrera and the sti.

Unless the C4 is going to autocross, these are probably to stiff and sticky of a tire for even a nice spirited top down summer drive, on Sierra roads, and no fun at all for a nice leisurely tour around the lake, etc.

doubleurx · 2006-02-26, 01:29 PM

Do you mean "no fun" with regards to tracking issues. I definately do not want a ride like the yokohama r compounds gave me.

So for daily driving the azenis will suck?

sperry · 2006-02-26, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx

Do you mean "no fun" with regards to tracking issues. I definately do not want a ride like the yokohama r compounds gave me.

So for daily driving the azenis will suck?

They're not *that* bad. The Carrera is already pretty stiff and noisey... I don't think you'll be bothered by the Azenis. On the other hand, a set of Falken ST-115's will be quieter, last longer, cost less, and work better in the wet.

Dean · 2006-02-26, 03:20 PM

I think the tendency of the 615s to follow the road contours etc. would make them somewhat annoying on a daily driver in addition to the stiffness. Think about how your STI feels on the RE070s on the area roads. The lower tighter C4 will probably feel worse especially with the stiff sidewalls.

Now if you have 2 sets of rims, and are thinking about autocrossing the C4, that's a different story. 615s all the way!

What sizes does the C4 use, and we can look what's out there for it.

doubleurx · 2006-02-26, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

I think the tendency of the 615s to follow the road contours etc. would make them somewhat annoying on a daily driver in addition to the stiffness. Think about how your STI feels on the RE070s on the area roads. The lower tighter C4 will probably feel worse especially with the stiff sidewalls.

Now if you have 2 sets of rims, and are thinking about autocrossing the C4, that's a different story. 615s all the way!

What sizes does the C4 use, and we can look what's out there for it.

The C4 takes 205/50/17's in front and 255/40/17 in back. I am pretty sure that I can run 225/45/17 in front as that size exactly matches the rear size diameter.

Dean · 2006-02-26, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx

The C4 takes 205/50/17's in front and 255/40/17 in back. I am pretty sure that I can run 225/45/17 in front as that size exactly matches the rear size diameter.

I'd stick to the stock sizes, as the 225s are actually .4% different than the 205s, but in the right way, so they are both only .2% off the 255s, but why mess with it.

How much you want to spend, and I am assuming 3 season use.

For cheap, the Continental ContiSportContact 2 looks like the answer. Make sure you get the ZRs so they match front/rear. (These at some point were teh Porsche OE tire/)

Next step up are the Pirelli PZero Rosso Asimmetricos which may be ideal for that car.

Last, but not least, and only a hair less aggresive than the 615s would be the New Advan Neovas, but they are pricey.

I'd probably pick between the Rosos and the Conti's depending on my budget.

doubleurx · 2006-02-27, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

I'd stick to the stock sizes, as the 225s are actually .4% different than the 205s, but in the right way, so they are both only .2% off the 255s, but why mess with it.

How much you want to spend, and I am assuming 3 season use.

For cheap, the Continental ContiSportContact 2 looks like the answer. Make sure you get the ZRs so they match front/rear. (These at some point were teh Porsche OE tire/)

Next step up are the Pirelli PZero Rosso Asimmetricos which may be ideal for that car.

Last, but not least, and only a hair less aggresive than the 615s would be the New Advan Neovas, but they are pricey.

I'd probably pick between the Rosos and the Conti's depending on my budget.

I was using the handy Miata calculator that shows the 225/45/17 and the 255/40/17 with exactly the same diameter of 25.0. Why I considered the alternate size is because the car originally came with 205/55/16 fronts and 225/50/16 rears that also have the exact same diameter of 24.9. Why Porsche recommends an upsize that doesn't exactly match, I have no idea?

I've posted this on some porsche forums with one response from someone that has the upsized tire with no issues and they agreed with me with regards to the diameter.

The neova's are also on sale, but much more pricey than the azenis.

bemani · 2006-02-27, 09:35 AM

I wonder if the 235/40/17 are really coming out next month...

Nick Koan · 2006-02-27, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bemani

I wonder if the 235/40/17 are really coming out next month...

That would be awesome.

sperry · 2006-02-27, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bemani

I wonder if the 235/40/17 are really coming out next month...

Just get some 255/40/17's like I did!

...the 255's have 10" wide contact patches, and are more than an inch wider than the 225/45/17's RT-215s.

I think I'm going to have some serious fitment issues... I've got some rear camber plates to try and get the strut out of the way, as well as rolled fenders in the rear... but I don't think that will be enough. I may have to go all Kevin on my rear fenders and roll them to the point of flaring.

Dean · 2006-02-27, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx

I was using the handy Miata calculator that shows the 225/45/17 and the 255/40/17 with exactly the same diameter of 25.0. Why I considered the alternate size is because the car originally came with 205/55/16 fronts and 225/50/16 rears that also have the exact same diameter of 24.9. Why Porsche recommends an upsize that doesn't exactly match, I have no idea?

I've posted this on some porsche forums with one response from someone that has the upsized tire with no issues and they agreed with me with regards to the diameter.

The neova's are also on sale, but much more pricey than the azenis.

The 225s will probably be fine. I think the 615s and Neovas are just a bit much for a dialy/weekend driver street car.

doubleurx · 2006-02-27, 11:19 AM

I hear you Dean. My STI was miserable on the streets with those A032R's.

I know I am definately getting them for the STI's BBS wheels for track days. I'll give them a try to see if I put them on the Porsche.

sybir · 2006-02-27, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Just get some 255/40/17's like I did!

...the 255's have 10" wide contact patches, and are more than an inch wider than the 225/45/17's RT-215s.

I think I'm going to have some serious fitment issues... I've got some rear camber plates to try and get the strut out of the way, as well as rolled fenders in the rear... but I don't think that will be enough. I may have to go all Kevin on my rear fenders and roll them to the point of flaring.

Lemme know when you need the tool

doubleurx · 2006-02-27, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sybir

Lemme know when you need the tool

Is this a person or physical gizmo?

sperry · 2006-02-27, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx

Is this a person or physical gizmo?

Well, Aaron is a tool, and he's got a tool designed for fender clearancing.

doubleurx · 2006-02-27, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Well, Aaron is a tool, and he's got a tool designed for fender clearancing.

That's Aaron, the tool with the tool!

sybir · 2006-02-27, 09:51 PM

You guys know me too well. Apparently, my tool is well known in these circles

LetItRev · 2006-02-28, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sybir

You guys know me too well. Apparently, my tool is well known in these circles

That's true, considering most of us have seen and even manhandled your "tool." LOL!

sonicsuby · 2006-02-28, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LetItRev

That's true, considering most of us have seen and even manhandled your "tool." LOL!

uh gay

Kevin M · 2006-02-28, 12:39 PM

Says the tool's roomate.

2006-02-26, 12:17 AM	#1
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Azenis RT-615 Price drop @ DT Discount Tire finally dropped the price on the 615s.... Falken RT-615s at DT Including Shipping! Size........................Price 205/40R-16 83W XL B $92.00 205/40R-17 84W XL B $105.00 205/50R-15 89W XL B $85.00 215/40R-17 87W XL B $112.00 225/40R-18 92W XL B $140.00 225/45R-17 94W XL B $120.00 225/45R-18 91W BLK $169.00 235/40R-18 95W XL B $148.00 245/40R-18 97W XL B $161.00 245/45R-17 99W XL B $123.00 255/40R-17 94W BLK $135.00 255/40R-18 95W BLK $165.00 275/35R-18 95W BLK $224.00 275/40R-17 98W BLK $155.00 __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids... Last edited by Dean; 2006-02-26 at 12:42 AM.

2006-02-26, 12:31 AM	#2
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	about time... Too bad I already paid the shipping from edgeracing... __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-02-26, 11:52 AM	#3
M3n2c3 EJ205 Real Name: Jeremiah Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 1,888 Car: 2005 Impreza 2.5RS, 2000 Forester L Class: RNP sometimes (see motto) "Kids are ruining autocross."	I checked out both DT and ER. . . for a set of 225/45/17, ER seems cheaper overall right now. At DT, it's $120/tire ($480), plus $12 for valve stems, a $4 "environmental fee," and $38 in NV state sales tax. Ground shipping is free. $534 total. Edge Racing, on the other hand, is charging $112/tire ($44, and ground shipping - at least to Dayton - is quoted at only $71. Apparently valve stems are included. $519 total. I am curious about Discount Tire's "Certificates for Free Replacement," though - with the way tires get worn while autocrossing, is that even worth it? __________________ Small red text that looks curious at first glance but is ultimately inconsequential

2006-02-26, 12:25 PM	#4
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Unless you buy solid aluminum stems, your installer should include stems, don't pay DT for them. ER does not include any valve stems, and you can just remove them from the DT order. Tax, and EF are becasue they have a store in LV, so they have to charge NV fees. So the result is $522 DT vs. $519 ER. The DT advantage is that they come from NV, or Arizona instead of Florida. Actually, the best deal right now is from Vulcan Tire. www.vulcantire.com They are a good shop that specialies in motorsports tires as well. $112ea. + $46 shipping from Salt Lake, so $494 to your door and probably 1-2 days max shipping. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-02-26, 03:20 PM	#9
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I think the tendency of the 615s to follow the road contours etc. would make them somewhat annoying on a daily driver in addition to the stiffness. Think about how your STI feels on the RE070s on the area roads. The lower tighter C4 will probably feel worse especially with the stiff sidewalls. Now if you have 2 sets of rims, and are thinking about autocrossing the C4, that's a different story. 615s all the way! What sizes does the C4 use, and we can look what's out there for it. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-02-26, 01:07 PM	#5
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	Thanks for the research Dean. I'm getting these tires for both the carrera and the sti.

2006-02-26, 01:29 PM	#7
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	Do you mean "no fun" with regards to tracking issues. I definately do not want a ride like the yokohama r compounds gave me. So for daily driving the azenis will suck?

2006-02-27, 09:35 AM	#13
bemani EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 160 Car: 05 LGT 02 WRX Class: SM	I wonder if the 235/40/17 are really coming out next month...

2006-02-27, 11:19 AM	#17
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	I hear you Dean. My STI was miserable on the streets with those A032R's. I know I am definately getting them for the STI's BBS wheels for track days. I'll give them a try to see if I put them on the Porsche.

2006-02-27, 09:51 PM	#22
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	You guys know me too well. Apparently, my tool is well known in these circles __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2006-02-28, 12:39 PM	#25
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Says the tool's roomate. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

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