AutoX School Question - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Bob Danger · 2006-02-20, 08:43 PM

Is it possible to have a co-driver, for the school in April?

MattR · 2006-02-20, 09:00 PM

hmm... If the school was exactly like it was last year, I would say no.

However, this year's school is supposed to follow a different path and focus more on the "procedures" of autocross, instead of an actual driving focus. Giving a better idea to new participants of what they are expected to do, where they should be, etc.

I will email the event organizer and get the scoop. I'll let you know Bob.

MattR · 2006-02-21, 02:01 PM

Okay, I got word back regarding the driver school.

The students will be broken into two groups, alternating class and track time.

So YES, two driver cars will be allowed.

Bob Danger · 2006-02-22, 10:09 AM

Thanks Matt

A1337STI · 2006-02-22, 05:50 PM

is a two driver car the same as a driver and a passenge? A friend of mine is really interested in coming down with me for the autocross days. and i'm sure he will want to ride in the car with me (if allowed) and if there is a 2nd helmet available. (not sure if that is allowed on actual races also ) but i'll see, i bet the classes explain a lot of this.

can i pay my scca fees when i go the first class ? ?

Dean · 2006-02-22, 06:20 PM

Helmets are scarce during school, and reserved for the students who are running at the time. You may also have an instructor riding with you, so there may be no room for passenger. Have them bring their own car and try it...

We also encourage anyone who can to scrounge a helmet to do so. To use it, it has to have an orange sticker on/in it somewhere that says "SNELL" and then 95 2000, or 2005. an SA, or M before the year is OK.

Pat R. · 2006-02-22, 09:38 PM

I just bought a new helmet for when I'm riding my chopper. Is this OK for SCCA?

Dean · 2006-02-22, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R.

I just bought a new helmet for when I'm riding my chopper. Is this OK for SCCA?

No, it needs a spike...

Kevin M · 2006-02-23, 01:20 AM

And a "helmet laws suck" sticker.

A1337STI · 2006-02-23, 03:46 PM

i looked on ebay for a scca helmet, anyone know of a good store? maybe a place in the reno area ( i like to try on my helmets)

Dean · 2006-02-23, 04:42 PM

If you are going to buy something, I strongly suggets a SNELL M2005, or SA2005. If you are serious about this, the SA2005 will be better in the long run as it is designed for automobile use, not Motorcycle, but it will cost a little more.

Sizes are fairly consistant, especially within a brand. If you try a Bell Medium in a (M) motorcycle helmet, it is very likely a Medium Bell SA will fit the same.

Both the GForce GF750, and the Pyrotect Open Face SA2005 helmets can be had for about $150 shipped from a number of location. (Froogle for "Open face sa2005")

M Series versions of the same helmets are about $50 cheaper.

If you want a full face, you are in the low to mid $200s.

A1337STI · 2006-02-23, 04:53 PM

open face sounds like i'll have more visbility , i might as well get a descent one. i always hope and expect the best, but worst case, why not protect your head

to froogle i'll go. sounds like maybe i could try on some motorcycle helmets, get my size and by a car use one. if i stay with the same brand...

thanks i've also been kicking around the idea of trying to build a cheap rally car , and i'de need a helmet for that also (not sure if you could build a rally car for around or less then 3K and find an event to enter) obviosly not a high end one, but something with a roll cage, good tires and an engine that doesn't die 1st race (2nd race ok)

i need to do a lot of reading on the main ssca site and elsewhere.

Pat R. · 2006-02-23, 04:59 PM

http://reno.craigslist.org/mcy/136042221.html

M3n2c3 · 2006-02-23, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat R.

http://reno.craigslist.org/mcy/136042221.html

Won't the SCCA be requiring 2005 certification (and excluding 2000) in a year or two?

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1337STI

i've also been kicking around the idea of trying to build a cheap rally car , and i'de need a helmet for that also (not sure if you could build a rally car for around or less then 3K and find an event to enter) obviosly not a high end one, but something with a roll cage, good tires and an engine that doesn't die 1st race (2nd race ok)

i need to do a lot of reading on the main ssca site and elsewhere.

You'd probably be better off buying someone's used, prepped rally car.

M3n2c3 · 2006-02-23, 10:28 PM

wtf double post

Dean · 2006-02-23, 11:31 PM

For Solo2, a 2005 will be good until the 2020s come out. You will probably replace it before that for other reasons.

4.3.1
Helmets meeting the following standards must be worn while on
course: All helmets meeting the current or two immediately
preceding Snell Foundation standards (SA, K, or M), or SFI
standards 31.1A, 31.2A, 41.1A, or 41.2A are acceptable.

A1337STI · 2006-02-27, 10:55 AM

arg, need to measure my head and see if that will fit.

that's too good of a deal to pass up

great link btw thanks ! (i'm a medium in my protect snowboard helmet) hmmf

2006-02-20, 08:43 PM	#1
Bob Danger Tape Terrorist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Melmac Posts: 1,792 Car: ? Class: Retired! Warning: Prolonged eye contact may cause insanity	AutoX School Question Is it possible to have a co-driver, for the school in April? __________________ A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi.

2006-02-20, 09:00 PM	#2
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	hmm... If the school was exactly like it was last year, I would say no. However, this year's school is supposed to follow a different path and focus more on the "procedures" of autocross, instead of an actual driving focus. Giving a better idea to new participants of what they are expected to do, where they should be, etc. I will email the event organizer and get the scoop. I'll let you know Bob. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2006-02-21, 02:01 PM	#3
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Okay, I got word back regarding the driver school. The students will be broken into two groups, alternating class and track time. So YES, two driver cars will be allowed. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2006-02-22, 10:09 AM	#4
Bob Danger Tape Terrorist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Melmac Posts: 1,792 Car: ? Class: Retired! Warning: Prolonged eye contact may cause insanity	Thanks Matt __________________ A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi.

2006-02-22, 06:20 PM	#6
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Helmets are scarce during school, and reserved for the students who are running at the time. You may also have an instructor riding with you, so there may be no room for passenger. Have them bring their own car and try it... We also encourage anyone who can to scrounge a helmet to do so. To use it, it has to have an orange sticker on/in it somewhere that says "SNELL" and then 95 2000, or 2005. an SA, or M before the year is OK. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-02-22, 05:50 PM	#5
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	is a two driver car the same as a driver and a passenge? A friend of mine is really interested in coming down with me for the autocross days. and i'm sure he will want to ride in the car with me (if allowed) and if there is a 2nd helmet available. (not sure if that is allowed on actual races also ) but i'll see, i bet the classes explain a lot of this. can i pay my scca fees when i go the first class ? ?

2006-02-22, 09:38 PM	#7
Pat R. EJ251 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southeast Hades Posts: 593 Car: Red Class: Stockish ¿Quién es tu padre?	I just bought a new helmet for when I'm riding my chopper. Is this OK for SCCA?

2006-02-23, 01:20 AM	#9
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	And a "helmet laws suck" sticker. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-02-23, 03:46 PM	#10
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	i looked on ebay for a scca helmet, anyone know of a good store? maybe a place in the reno area ( i like to try on my helmets)

2006-02-23, 04:42 PM	#11
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	If you are going to buy something, I strongly suggets a SNELL M2005, or SA2005. If you are serious about this, the SA2005 will be better in the long run as it is designed for automobile use, not Motorcycle, but it will cost a little more. Sizes are fairly consistant, especially within a brand. If you try a Bell Medium in a (M) motorcycle helmet, it is very likely a Medium Bell SA will fit the same. Both the GForce GF750, and the Pyrotect Open Face SA2005 helmets can be had for about $150 shipped from a number of location. (Froogle for "Open face sa2005") M Series versions of the same helmets are about $50 cheaper. If you want a full face, you are in the low to mid $200s. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-02-23, 04:53 PM	#12
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	open face sounds like i'll have more visbility , i might as well get a descent one. i always hope and expect the best, but worst case, why not protect your head to froogle i'll go. sounds like maybe i could try on some motorcycle helmets, get my size and by a car use one. if i stay with the same brand... thanks i've also been kicking around the idea of trying to build a cheap rally car , and i'de need a helmet for that also (not sure if you could build a rally car for around or less then 3K and find an event to enter) obviosly not a high end one, but something with a roll cage, good tires and an engine that doesn't die 1st race (2nd race ok) i need to do a lot of reading on the main ssca site and elsewhere. Last edited by A1337STI; 2006-02-23 at 04:57 PM. Reason: i don't think things through that well

2006-02-23, 04:59 PM	#13
Pat R. EJ251 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southeast Hades Posts: 593 Car: Red Class: Stockish ¿Quién es tu padre?	http://reno.craigslist.org/mcy/136042221.html

2006-02-23, 10:28 PM	#15
M3n2c3 EJ205 Real Name: Jeremiah Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 1,888 Car: 2005 Impreza 2.5RS, 2000 Forester L Class: RNP sometimes (see motto) "Kids are ruining autocross."	wtf double post __________________ Small red text that looks curious at first glance but is ultimately inconsequential

2006-02-23, 11:31 PM	#16
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	For Solo2, a 2005 will be good until the 2020s come out. You will probably replace it before that for other reasons. 4.3.1 Helmets meeting the following standards must be worn while on course: All helmets meeting the current or two immediately preceding Snell Foundation standards (SA, K, or M), or SFI standards 31.1A, 31.2A, 41.1A, or 41.2A are acceptable. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-02-27, 10:55 AM	#17
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	arg, need to measure my head and see if that will fit. that's too good of a deal to pass up great link btw thanks ! (i'm a medium in my protect snowboard helmet) hmmf

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