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Old 2007-02-15, 11:00 AM   #1
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Default Does anyone still have the cards with the 2006 pax factors printed on them?

If anyone still has one of these, can they please post here or PM me? kthxbye
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Old 2007-02-15, 11:24 AM   #2
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If you need the physical card, I still have it. I was about to throw it out the other day too.
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Old 2007-02-15, 11:50 AM   #4
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I have one too. I put it in my wallet. You know, just in case.
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Old 2007-02-15, 11:54 AM   #5
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Can you guys tell me what is on the card for the following classes:

GS
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ESP
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Old 2007-02-15, 12:21 PM   #6
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It's not in the link I posted?
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Old 2007-02-15, 12:36 PM   #7
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It's not in the link I posted?
I want to know if what's on the cards matches what's on the Reno scca website.

I am testing this software I am writing by redoing last year's results, and it is coming out differently. I was using pax factors from here: link then I noticed that they don't match what is on the renoscca website. So I changed them and it still didn't work. Then I noticed that what we actually used in the timing PC last year doesn't match either the Reno scca site or that site Not only that, but halfway through the season someone changed some of the the pax factors in the timing pc (not me)

I used the cards to enter the pax factors at the start of the year, which is why I want to know if they match.
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Old 2007-02-15, 12:38 PM   #8
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OMFG!!!!!!!!! So, does that mean 06 is a bust.

Maybe that's how the Miata drivers were going to make a run at pax! h4X0r the computer!!!!!!
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Can you guys tell me what is on the card for the following classes:

GS
DSP
ESP
DP
BM
CM
DM
EM
FM
STX
According to the all-knowing card

GS - .795
DSP - .826
ESP - .828
DP - .851
BM - .944
CM - .909
DM - .885
EM - .881
FM - .887
STX - .803

And damn, you're right. These numbers are different than in the link Scott posted.
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The next list should be the people having access to the lap top. Time for a congressional hearing.
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Old 2007-02-15, 01:02 PM   #11
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Not sure where the numbers on the cards came from. They don't match 2005, or 2006. Reno web site appears to match "official" numbers.

http://www.scca-chicago.com/solo/indexes/rtp2006.html

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According to the all-knowing card

GS - .795
DSP - .826
ESP - .828
DP - .851
BM - .944
CM - .909
DM - .885
EM - .881
FM - .887
STX - .803

And damn, you're right. These numbers are different than in the link Scott posted.
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Old 2007-02-15, 01:04 PM   #12
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So last year we had 4 sets of pax factors, the official chicago scca page, the reno scca page, what was in the computer for the start of the season (which matches the printed card), and what was in the computer for the end of the season. What a clusterfuck.

This year I am only using the name, class car number and raw times from the PC. I will do all the other processing from the safety of my house!
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Old 2007-02-15, 01:06 PM   #13
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Web site appears to match "official" numbers.
Nope, ESP, BM, CM, DM, EM and FM are different.
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Nope, ESP, BM, CM, DM, EM and FM are different.
OK, I suck.
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Nope, ESP, BM, CM, DM, EM and FM are different.
Maybe the change in ESP helped me out at Derby Field.
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So last year we had 4 sets of pax factors, the official chicago scca page, the reno scca page, what was in the computer for the start of the season (which matches the printed card), and what was in the computer for the end of the season. What a clusterfuck.

This year I am only using the name, class car number and raw times from the PC. I will do all the other processing from the safety of my house!
If possibly, if we have clean data and you have automated SW, it would be nice to be able to generate results on-site...
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Well, the good news is that the software seems to be working, for pax anyway. I haven't started working on the class standings yet.

Here are some tests I ran by plugging in the 2006 and 2007 pax factors from the chicago site, plus I also tried playing with the 2006 and 2007 points. The filenames should be pretty self explanatory.
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Here are some tests I ran by plugging in the 2006 and 2007 pax factors from the chicago site, plus I also tried playing with the 2006 and 2007 points. The filenames should be pretty self explanatory.
Did you forget to drop the people who didn't compete in >50%?
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We didn't drop them before
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I meant <50%, and you are right. The old supp said nothing about 51% for PAX.

But looking at the new scoring system, you have Sac. ringers in the top 10 with only 4 events. Yes, we suck, but I think all season trophies should require 51% attendance.

It is a simple fix, the first sentence of Rule 11 in the supps just needs to have the word "CLASS" removed.
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OMFG!!!!!!!!! So, does that mean 06 is a bust.

Maybe that's how the Miata drivers were going to make a run at pax! h4X0r the computer!!!!!!
Ok. Who remembers, who had those cards printed?
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I meant <50%, and you are right. The old supp said nothing about 51% for PAX.

But looking at the new scoring system, you have Sac. ringers in the top 10 with only 4 events. Yes, we suck, but I think all season trophies should require 51% attendance.

It is a simple fix, the first sentence of Rule 11 in the supps just needs to have the word "CLASS" removed.
Don't worry, the new supps have that reconciled already.
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