WTB/Help Me Find Race Brake Pads - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

cody · 2008-07-16, 11:33 AM

So I've decided to go to RFR this Saturday (haven't decided whether to do PDX or Club Trials yet though) and the Porterfield R4-S are less than ideal. How can I get some race pads on my car before Saturday? Anyone got anything lying around that'll work?

My MY03 WRX has the Tokico callipers that Subaru started using in the latter half of production in 2002. My car was manufactured in July of 2002.

Thanks for any suggestions. I assume I only really need fronts, but all 4 would be cool.

MattR · 2008-07-16, 11:40 AM

EBC Yellows are great for track use.

cody · 2008-07-16, 11:43 AM

How about Hawk HP+? TR has 'em in stock but they're pricey there so I'm checking with Crucial too, as I know they stock 'em in CA.

sperry · 2008-07-16, 12:07 PM

+1 for Yellows.

Summit carries 'em front and rear, but they look out of stock for the WRX until 8/1/08:

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

cody · 2008-07-16, 12:20 PM

Do you think if I did Hawk HP+ in the fronts only, I'd be okay?

sperry · 2008-07-16, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

Do you think if I did Hawk HP+ in the fronts only, I'd be okay?

I'm not sure about the Hawks specifically, but as long as the rears on the car have decent thickness left, you can surely get away with just a set of track pads up front.

Dean · 2008-07-16, 02:02 PM

See what tire rack has in stock.

You should be able to survive on just about anything but have to chill when they get soft.

HP+ are and OK crossover pad and should suffice for a day at least.

Yellows are the hands down bang for your buck winners though but realize you can't get them fast without paying through the nose.

Glad you are coming out...

cody · 2008-07-16, 02:04 PM

Yah, I just don't know if HP+ are going to suffice. If not, it'd be a big waste as the R4-S's are already "crossover pads".

Dean · 2008-07-16, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

Yah, I just don't know if HP+ are going to suffice. If not, it'd be a big waste as the R4-S's are already "crossover pads".

I have run both of those pads and they are fairly comparable.

Fluid is going to be critical for you given the small brake setup on the WRX. Also, please tell me you took your dust shields off... If not, do it.

cody · 2008-07-16, 02:14 PM

Tire rack has a ton of Hawk pads in stock for me: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...&perfcat=track

I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on these Blue 9012 Track Only Pads but they're $144 for the set.

cody · 2008-07-16, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

I have run both of those pads and they are fairly comparable.

Fluid is going to be critical for you given the small brake setup on the WRX. Also, please tell me you took your dust shields off... If not, do it.

I just did a full bleed with ATE Blue but I still have the dust shields. Do I need to remove front and rear shields?

Dean · 2008-07-16, 02:30 PM

The fronts are easy. 3 small bolts after pulling the rotors. Do them at minimum. They retain a bunch of heat. Some people take them off, drill a big hole in them and put a duct or scoop on them and put them back on.

Rears require brute force, a cold chisel, or just time bending back and forth until metal fatigue around the spot welds breaks them off. These are not as critical but are not that bad to do.

cody · 2008-07-16, 02:37 PM

Okay, thanks.

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Originally Posted by cody

Tire rack has a ton of Hawk pads in stock for me: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...&perfcat=track

I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on these Blue 9012 Track Only Pads but they're $144 for the set.

What do you think Dean?

Edit: Nevermind, they don't have them in stock.

I think I'll just have to take it easy. I'll def. remove the shields though.

cody · 2008-07-16, 03:08 PM

By the way, I think it was only the rear callipers that got changed. Scott, you don't have any old track pads from your stock callipers lying around do you? ...or anyone else that had a bugeye for that matter?

MattR · 2008-07-16, 03:23 PM

Man, If Cody's coming to the track,I'm setting up my lawn chair in turn 1 and bringing my video camera!

cody · 2008-07-16, 03:26 PM

Yah you are.

sperry · 2008-07-16, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

By the way, I think it was only the rear callipers that got changed. Scott, you don't have any old track pads from your stock callipers lying around do you? ...or anyone else that had a bugeye for that matter?

I made the mistake using Axxis Ultimates on the stock WRX brakes at the track... well they worked fine the 1st time I went to the track, but then next time I was less scared and was hitting the esses at over 100mph instead of at 65, and goodbye stock brakes! That's right when I got the StopTechs.

cody · 2008-07-16, 03:53 PM

Well shit, I guess I'll just have to take it easy so now I'm leaning more toward PDX instead of Club Trials. Hmmm...although with the shortened front straight for the CT's, maybe they'd be less strain on the brakes?

sperry · 2008-07-16, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

Well shit, I guess I'll just have to take it easy so now I'm leaning more toward PDX instead of Club Trials. Hmmm...although with the shortened front straight for the CT's, maybe they'd be less strain on the brakes?

Yeah, it'll help a bit... you won't be using the front straight or the old "back" straight part of the horsepower course (the one into turn 12 where I went off) which are the two fastest parts by far. It may not be quite so hard on the brakes as in the past.

cody · 2008-07-16, 04:08 PM

Damn, I'm thinking I can probably just get away with removing the dust shields and taking it somewhat easy (good idea anyway). However, if I order in the next 3 hours, I can get some EBC Yellows for the front shipped Next Day Air for $159.66 total. Decisions decisions...feel free to weigh in.

sperry · 2008-07-16, 04:14 PM

If you plan on hitting the track again anytime soon, just get the yellows. If you go w/ the stock pads, you're going to need to replace them much sooner after tracking anyway.

cody · 2008-07-16, 04:26 PM

Well the R4-S's are much better than stock. They work pretty good at the track so I think I'm gonna hope that removing the dust shields and doing the CT with the shortened straights will compensate for my lack of a full track pad.

Dean · 2008-07-16, 04:27 PM

Yellows!

sperry · 2008-07-16, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

Well the R4-S's are much better than stock. They work pretty good at the track so I think I'm gonna hope that removing the dust shields and doing the CT with the shortened straights will compensate for my lack of a full track pad.

You're still probably going to use 50% of them up in a day at the track. The Yellows will last much longer on the track.

cody · 2008-07-16, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

You're still probably going to use 50% of them up in a day at the track. The Yellows will last much longer on the track.

But they'll preserve the life of my stock rotors.

2008-07-16, 11:33 AM	#1
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	WTB/Help Me Find Race Brake Pads So I've decided to go to RFR this Saturday (haven't decided whether to do PDX or Club Trials yet though) and the Porterfield R4-S are less than ideal. How can I get some race pads on my car before Saturday? Anyone got anything lying around that'll work? My MY03 WRX has the Tokico callipers that Subaru started using in the latter half of production in 2002. My car was manufactured in July of 2002. Thanks for any suggestions. I assume I only really need fronts, but all 4 would be cool. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 11:40 AM	#2
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	EBC Yellows are great for track use. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2008-07-16, 11:43 AM	#3
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	How about Hawk HP+? TR has 'em in stock but they're pricey there so I'm checking with Crucial too, as I know they stock 'em in CA. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 12:07 PM	#4
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	+1 for Yellows. Summit carries 'em front and rear, but they look out of stock for the WRX until 8/1/08: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2008-07-16, 12:20 PM	#5
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Do you think if I did Hawk HP+ in the fronts only, I'd be okay? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 02:02 PM	#7
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	See what tire rack has in stock. You should be able to survive on just about anything but have to chill when they get soft. HP+ are and OK crossover pad and should suffice for a day at least. Yellows are the hands down bang for your buck winners though but realize you can't get them fast without paying through the nose. Glad you are coming out... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2008-07-16, 02:04 PM	#8
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Yah, I just don't know if HP+ are going to suffice. If not, it'd be a big waste as the R4-S's are already "crossover pads". __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 02:14 PM	#10
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Tire rack has a ton of Hawk pads in stock for me: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/resul...&perfcat=track I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on these Blue 9012 Track Only Pads but they're $144 for the set. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 02:30 PM	#12
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	The fronts are easy. 3 small bolts after pulling the rotors. Do them at minimum. They retain a bunch of heat. Some people take them off, drill a big hole in them and put a duct or scoop on them and put them back on. Rears require brute force, a cold chisel, or just time bending back and forth until metal fatigue around the spot welds breaks them off. These are not as critical but are not that bad to do. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2008-07-16, 03:08 PM	#14
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	By the way, I think it was only the rear callipers that got changed. Scott, you don't have any old track pads from your stock callipers lying around do you? ...or anyone else that had a bugeye for that matter? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 03:23 PM	#15
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Man, If Cody's coming to the track,I'm setting up my lawn chair in turn 1 and bringing my video camera! __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2008-07-16, 03:26 PM	#16
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Yah you are. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 03:53 PM	#18
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Well shit, I guess I'll just have to take it easy so now I'm leaning more toward PDX instead of Club Trials. Hmmm...although with the shortened front straight for the CT's, maybe they'd be less strain on the brakes? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 04:08 PM	#20
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Damn, I'm thinking I can probably just get away with removing the dust shields and taking it somewhat easy (good idea anyway). However, if I order in the next 3 hours, I can get some EBC Yellows for the front shipped Next Day Air for $159.66 total. Decisions decisions...feel free to weigh in. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 04:14 PM	#21
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	If you plan on hitting the track again anytime soon, just get the yellows. If you go w/ the stock pads, you're going to need to replace them much sooner after tracking anyway. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2008-07-16, 04:26 PM	#22
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Well the R4-S's are much better than stock. They work pretty good at the track so I think I'm gonna hope that removing the dust shields and doing the CT with the shortened straights will compensate for my lack of a full track pad. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-16, 04:27 PM	#23
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Yellows! __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

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