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sperry · 2009-09-02, 04:16 PM

Anyone ever buy a car from this d-bag at Jones-West Ford?

http://www.rgj.com/article/20090902/NEWS/90902052

Quote:

A 33-year-old former car salesman learned the hard way Wednesday that you can’t get away with threatening to kill your arresting officers and their families.
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Washoe District Court Judge Brent Adams ordered Robert Adam McGuffey to spend at least two years in prison before he is eligible for parole on two felony counts of intimidating a witness for trying to get out of a drunken driving arrest.

Adams sentenced him to two consecutive terms of 1 to 3 years in prison.

A jury in July took less than two hours to find him guilty of the charges that stem from a May arrest by Nevada Highway Patrol troopers. McGuffey’s string of threats to the troopers were captured on video in a patrol car. He told one trooper “I hope you are a quick draw...you won’t be the first cop I’ve killed...you won’t be the last.”

McGuffey was a salesman at Jones West Ford and said he would use his connections there to sabotage NHP vehicles that are serviced at the business, and to find out where the officers and their families lived and shopped. His blood alcohol level at the time of arrest was .11 percent, while the legal limit is .08 percent.

During Wednesday’s sentencing, Pueblo, Colo., police officer William Doyle testified that in March of 2000, he stopped McGuffey for drunken driving. McGuffey, he said, told him he was going to find his family and “kill your bitch-ass wife and rape your kid...Pueblo is a small town. I will follow you home and kill your whole (expletive) family. You better just pull over and let me go.”

Chief Deputy District Attorney said McGuffey had been arrested four other times for felonies, and that all had been pleaded down to misdemeanors with a lenient punishment. “Today, there was judgement,” Hahn said.

McGuffey apologized for his behavior, which his lawyer has said were “empty threats.”

Officers also testified that in January 2008, officers responding to his home for a domestic violence report had to shoot him with a Taser gun because he was resisting arrest.

k-dogg39 · 2009-09-02, 04:21 PM

What an idiot.

Dean · 2009-09-02, 07:32 PM

This just confirms what we all thought... Car dealers are crooks...

ScottyS · 2009-09-02, 08:18 PM

Hahahaha what a clown. Although, instead of paying for his ass to sit in the unemployment hotel for 2 years, I'd rather see him caned in public for each episode.

cody · 2009-09-03, 08:45 AM

Sounds like a lovely human being.

Nick Koan · 2009-09-03, 09:00 AM

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...which his lawyer has said were “empty threats.”

"I'm going to kill your bitch-ass wife and rape your kids" is an empty threat?

cody · 2009-09-03, 09:13 AM

If you don't carry it out, then technically it's an empty threat.

Dean · 2009-09-03, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cody

If you don't carry it out, then technically it's an empty threat.

No, and empty threat is one where you do not have the means, ability, and/or possibility/potential of executing it. It has nothing to do with actual execution. Threats by definition lack execution, that is why they are threats, not acts.

cody · 2009-09-03, 09:46 AM

I think it could also be a threat you have no intention of carrying out, which seems more likely what the lawyer meant.

And you can certainly make a threat and then act upon that threat. Acting upon the threat doesn't change the fact that it was initially a threat. Threats are often threatening...

Kevin M · 2009-09-03, 09:48 AM

Yeah. Can't is empty, didn't is not.

"I'm gonna kill you with this gun in my hand>" = not empty threat

"I'm gonna use my telekinetic powers to launch you off the planet where you will explode in the vacuum of space, Total Recall style." = empty threat

ScottyS · 2009-09-03, 01:39 PM

Nick Koan · 2009-09-03, 01:44 PM

I guess I meant any reasonable person should expect to take a threat like that serious. Its not like he said "I'm going to bazooka you right in the face with a stegosaurus."

Dean · 2009-09-03, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Koan

I guess I meant any reasonable person should expect to take a threat like that serious. Its not like he said "I'm going to bazooka you right in the face with a stegosaurus."

I think we all agree with you except maybe Cody, or he is arguing semantics with me which is usually Scott's job.

cody · 2009-09-03, 02:13 PM

I think everyone is right.

Nick Koan · 2009-09-03, 02:21 PM

You are technically correct. Which is the best kind of correct.

2009-09-02, 07:32 PM	#3
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	This just confirms what we all thought... Car dealers are crooks... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-09-02, 08:18 PM	#4
ScottyS EJ205 Real Name: It is real! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RNO Posts: 2,367 Car: 1998 Impreza Wagon, 1991 Legacy Turbo Sedan, 2003 Nissan Xterra Class: tvFree Yes, I'll fix it for you. Again.	Hahahaha what a clown. Although, instead of paying for his ass to sit in the unemployment hotel for 2 years, I'd rather see him caned in public for each episode. __________________ "Trend Number One is that people aren't getting any smarter." Dogbert

2009-09-03, 08:45 AM	#5
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Sounds like a lovely human being. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-09-03, 09:13 AM	#7
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	If you don't carry it out, then technically it's an empty threat. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-09-03, 09:46 AM	#9
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I think it could also be a threat you have no intention of carrying out, which seems more likely what the lawyer meant. And you can certainly make a threat and then act upon that threat. Acting upon the threat doesn't change the fact that it was initially a threat. Threats are often threatening... __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-09-02, 04:21 PM	#2
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	What an idiot.

2009-09-03, 09:48 AM	#10
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Yeah. Can't is empty, didn't is not. "I'm gonna kill you with this gun in my hand>" = not empty threat "I'm gonna use my telekinetic powers to launch you off the planet where you will explode in the vacuum of space, Total Recall style." = empty threat __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-09-03, 01:39 PM	#11
ScottyS EJ205 Real Name: It is real! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: RNO Posts: 2,367 Car: 1998 Impreza Wagon, 1991 Legacy Turbo Sedan, 2003 Nissan Xterra Class: tvFree Yes, I'll fix it for you. Again.	__________________ "Trend Number One is that people aren't getting any smarter." Dogbert

2009-09-03, 01:44 PM	#12
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	I guess I meant any reasonable person should expect to take a threat like that serious. Its not like he said "I'm going to bazooka you right in the face with a stegosaurus." __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-09-03, 02:13 PM	#14
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I think everyone is right. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-09-03, 02:21 PM	#15
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	You are technically correct. Which is the best kind of correct. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

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