New to autocross... - Page 4 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

cody · 2006-03-06, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Oh, you won't be the only NOOB there! I've never dont this before either! I'm so f'ing excited! I can't wait!

+1

A1337STI · 2006-03-06, 12:10 PM

So you are you planning on doing the autocross school the weekend prior also Mimpreza ?

MPREZIV · 2006-03-06, 12:38 PM

I'll be there! Look for me! I'm hard to miss...

P.S. I have to give you shit for butchering my name! Don't worry, everybody does!

cody · 2006-03-06, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1337STI

So you are you planning on doing the autocross school the weekend prior also Mimpreza ?

Wow, worst butchering of Mpreziv yet!

MPREZIV · 2006-03-06, 12:50 PM

A1337STI for the win!

A1337STI · 2006-03-06, 02:12 PM

ooops , Sorry Mpreziv . Think i'm better at writing C than English. Cool I'll see you there. What color is your RS ?

cody · 2006-03-06, 02:14 PM

It's Big Gay Al Purple. J/K, it's black with gold fleck in it I think.

MPREZIV · 2006-03-07, 07:26 AM

^^ Actually, the older ones had red metal flake in the black. The GDA came with the gold flake.

It's black dude! Black rims, CF hood, and a BIG ass Prodrive wing on the back. Holla at 'ya boy!

And don't worry about the spelling! No biggie, just call me Cory. Or Black Cory!

MPREZIV · 2006-03-07, 07:53 AM

I'm so stoked about auto-x! There's even a handful of people here at Nissan who are planning on attending! Ed will be there in his G-35, and he's trying to get his brother to come with his VW R-32. (turbo, awd, should be fun!) Even one of our parts guys with a Grand Prix GTP wants to have a go! Auto trans and all!

I'm doing all I can to develop some interest around here! No salesmen though.

cody · 2006-03-07, 04:26 PM

Is the Whiteline ALK, ESP legal? Is the "comfort" version going to add much NVH?

sperry · 2006-03-07, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

Is the Whiteline ALK, ESP legal? Is the "comfort" version going to add much NVH?

The ALK puts you into modified. It's not even street mod legal, which is why I've got one in a bag in my garage (w/ the comfort bushings)... I'll sell it to ya for $100... since you're running in Novice you can get away w/ it for a season.

It will also be legal in Time Trials. But once you move up to running a real Solo class, it's not legal.

They add NVH but not anymore than pillowball top mounts add.

cody · 2006-03-07, 04:38 PM

Weak. But I can do stearing bushings right? I hate how sloppy my stearing feals. I think it's getting worse as teh car gets older.

sperry · 2006-03-07, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

Weak. But I can do stearing bushings right? I hate how sloppy my stearing feals. I think it's getting worse as teh car gets older.

The steering rack bushings are legal starting this season. Which reminds me, I need to order a set of those bastards.

BTW: Whiteline makes a legal version of the ALK that uses an offset bushing instead of and offset bracket. I don't think it's quite as good as the "real" ALK, but it will still firm up the front-end.

cody · 2006-03-07, 05:50 PM

I wanted to get in on this this group buy.

Unbranded combo of ALK and SR for: $140 shipped.

I guess I'll just get the Steering Rack Bushings.

dknv · 2006-03-09, 06:44 PM

Oh by the way - http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums...showtopic=2674
Somebody here talk to this young man's dad at Washoe Med this weekend?

A1337STI · 2006-03-10, 03:07 PM

is AutoCross always Solo II ? do they do some higher speed events at fernley ? Solo I ?

I want to solo II first, but i am definatly interested in also checking out a higher speed (street course? road course? track course? track? term?)

figure get my feet wet in some varying event types

thanks in advance for the info

Edit : all smileys are not angry faces , so Cody isn't freaked out

Better ?

cody · 2006-03-10, 03:09 PM

You're freakin' me out with the smileys Alex.

Edit: Still freakin' me out.

Kevin M · 2006-03-11, 12:23 AM

Solo2=autocross. Think the Stead airport events, with a couple at Lovelock and Hawthorne thrown in. Speeds are supposed to stick to 65ish or below for genuine street cars, and always do at Stead. Virtually no risk.

Solo1 is a name no longer used. Club Trials (or Track Trials, if I lost track of which name it is this year again) are higher speed autocrosses that can be on a racetrack, but aren't always. They are run very similarly to Solo 2, but speeds are higher and more safety precautions are taken.

In between are what we generally refer to as "track days." That's just a day where a club or group has rented the track and lets 3 or 4 groups of cars, sorted by experience, out for a period of time to hot lap. For beginners there is little or no passing allowed, and always with the permission of the passee.

sperry · 2006-03-11, 01:08 AM

Actually "Solo2" is just "Solo" now.

So, in the SCCA, there's Solo (autocross), ProSolo (autocross w/ mirror image courses), Trials (w/ 4 levels: PDX, Club, Track, Hill Climb), and Road Race.

M3n2c3 · 2006-03-12, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by M3n2c3

I'm gonna be picking up a Bell SR-Pro helmet (SA2000, because it's about $100 less than the SA2005) and a Schroth Rallye 3 harness from soloracer.com.

My order's away!

The Schroth harnesses seem like a piece of cake to install - am I right?

Dean · 2006-03-12, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3n2c3

My order's away!

The Schroth harnesses seem like a piece of cake to install - am I right?

It takes some time to do it right, but it is not hard. Remember this is a safety device, so take your time, use the right tools/parts, and think things through before doing something.

The back seat has to come out. The fronts as well depending on how you attach the inside lap belt. The attachment pieces need to be properly bent to line up, minimize interfere with stock belts/fittings. The right longer bolts have to be used in the right holes...

I'd suggest doing it with one of our cars nearby as a reference.

Joeyy · 2006-03-16, 11:51 AM

Thoughts on the Schroth Rallye 4 Quick fit harness? It fits into the female rear seat belts. -THX

Kevin M · 2006-03-16, 12:12 PM

Looks to me like it needs to be bolted to the seatbelt anchors. For a sedan, I would recommend a Rallye 3 bolted to the LATCH anchor. Most of the Schroth crew here bolted them to the shoulder belt anchor though.

M3n2c3 · 2006-03-16, 12:48 PM

I think Schroth says the default point is the shoulder belt anchor.

I was looking at those Quick-fit harnesses as well, and here's what I got: I like the idea of having them use the stock female seatbelt points because of that airbag timing thingy, but the attachment point adapters on the outside ends still need to be bolted in. You're still doing the installation work, but the harness can be removed.

Ultimately, I'd say that they're not worth the extra $$$.

As a side note, I apparently got soloracer.com's LAST SA2000 rated Bell SR-Pro helmet - they've been taken off the site.

Dean · 2006-03-16, 12:58 PM

I know a number of people who have gone to the junk yard and gotten a spare belt end with belt attached, and threaded it through the normal Ralley3/4 adjuster to use in the same manner on the inside. You still end up with 1 permanent attachmnet point though, and a differnt grade belt in the mix, so I wouldn't do it.

2006-03-06, 12:38 PM	#78
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	I'll be there! Look for me! I'm hard to miss... P.S. I have to give you shit for butchering my name! Don't worry, everybody does! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-03-06, 12:50 PM	#80
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	A1337STI for the win! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-03-06, 02:14 PM	#82
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	It's Big Gay Al Purple. J/K, it's black with gold fleck in it I think. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-03-07, 07:26 AM	#83
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	^^ Actually, the older ones had red metal flake in the black. The GDA came with the gold flake. It's black dude! Black rims, CF hood, and a BIG ass Prodrive wing on the back. Holla at 'ya boy! And don't worry about the spelling! No biggie, just call me Cory. Or Black Cory! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can fck for HOURS..." Last edited by MPREZIV; 2006-03-07 at 07:55 AM.*

2006-03-07, 07:53 AM	#84
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	I'm so stoked about auto-x! There's even a handful of people here at Nissan who are planning on attending! Ed will be there in his G-35, and he's trying to get his brother to come with his VW R-32. (turbo, awd, should be fun!) Even one of our parts guys with a Grand Prix GTP wants to have a go! Auto trans and all! I'm doing all I can to develop some interest around here! No salesmen though. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-03-06, 12:10 PM	#77
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	So you are you planning on doing the autocross school the weekend prior also Mimpreza ?

2006-03-06, 02:12 PM	#81
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	ooops , Sorry Mpreziv . Think i'm better at writing C than English. Cool I'll see you there. What color is your RS ?

2006-03-07, 04:26 PM	#85
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Is the Whiteline ALK, ESP legal? Is the "comfort" version going to add much NVH?

2006-03-07, 04:38 PM	#87
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Weak. But I can do stearing bushings right? I hate how sloppy my stearing feals. I think it's getting worse as teh car gets older.

2006-03-07, 05:50 PM	#89
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I wanted to get in on this this group buy. Unbranded combo of ALK and SR for: $140 shipped. I guess I'll just get the Steering Rack Bushings.

2006-03-09, 06:44 PM	#90
dknv EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 39n53, 119w90 Posts: 2,698 Car: RX-8 Class: CS maybe	Oh by the way - http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums...showtopic=2674 Somebody here talk to this young man's dad at Washoe Med this weekend?

2006-03-10, 03:07 PM	#91
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	is AutoCross always Solo II ? do they do some higher speed events at fernley ? Solo I ? I want to solo II first, but i am definatly interested in also checking out a higher speed (street course? road course? track course? track? term?) figure get my feet wet in some varying event types thanks in advance for the info Edit : all smileys are not angry faces , so Cody isn't freaked out Better ? Last edited by A1337STI; 2006-03-10 at 03:16 PM.

2006-03-10, 03:09 PM	#92
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	You're freakin' me out with the smileys Alex. Edit: Still freakin' me out. Last edited by cody; 2006-03-16 at 12:46 PM.

2006-03-11, 12:23 AM	#93
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Solo2=autocross. Think the Stead airport events, with a couple at Lovelock and Hawthorne thrown in. Speeds are supposed to stick to 65ish or below for genuine street cars, and always do at Stead. Virtually no risk. Solo1 is a name no longer used. Club Trials (or Track Trials, if I lost track of which name it is this year again) are higher speed autocrosses that can be on a racetrack, but aren't always. They are run very similarly to Solo 2, but speeds are higher and more safety precautions are taken. In between are what we generally refer to as "track days." That's just a day where a club or group has rented the track and lets 3 or 4 groups of cars, sorted by experience, out for a period of time to hot lap. For beginners there is little or no passing allowed, and always with the permission of the passee. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-03-11, 01:08 AM	#94
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Actually "Solo2" is just "Solo" now. So, in the SCCA, there's Solo (autocross), ProSolo (autocross w/ mirror image courses), Trials (w/ 4 levels: PDX, Club, Track, Hill Climb), and Road Race. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-03-16, 11:51 AM	#97
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	Thoughts on the Schroth Rallye 4 Quick fit harness? It fits into the female rear seat belts. -THX

2006-03-16, 12:12 PM	#98
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Looks to me like it needs to be bolted to the seatbelt anchors. For a sedan, I would recommend a Rallye 3 bolted to the LATCH anchor. Most of the Schroth crew here bolted them to the shoulder belt anchor though. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-03-16, 12:48 PM	#99
M3n2c3 EJ205 Real Name: Jeremiah Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dayton, NV Posts: 1,888 Car: 2005 Impreza 2.5RS, 2000 Forester L Class: RNP sometimes (see motto) "Kids are ruining autocross."	I think Schroth says the default point is the shoulder belt anchor. I was looking at those Quick-fit harnesses as well, and here's what I got: I like the idea of having them use the stock female seatbelt points because of that airbag timing thingy, but the attachment point adapters on the outside ends still need to be bolted in. You're still doing the installation work, but the harness can be removed. Ultimately, I'd say that they're not worth the extra $$$. As a side note, I apparently got soloracer.com's LAST SA2000 rated Bell SR-Pro helmet - they've been taken off the site. __________________ Small red text that looks curious at first glance but is ultimately inconsequential

2006-03-16, 12:58 PM	#100
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I know a number of people who have gone to the junk yard and gotten a spare belt end with belt attached, and threaded it through the normal Ralley3/4 adjuster to use in the same manner on the inside. You still end up with 1 permanent attachmnet point though, and a differnt grade belt in the mix, so I wouldn't do it. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

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