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cody · 2006-04-03, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

You would not have to pay.

Kevin M · 2006-04-03, 11:05 AM

No, if you co-drive you have to pay. Working is free.

A1337STI · 2006-04-03, 11:07 AM

my forehead, nose and checks are RED . Very RED. i kept waking up last night . aaah sun screen. yes, uv goes through clouds. DOH

and wow you rock Cody , goes out to work! LMK if you need a ride i can leave from tahoe a few minutes early and pick you up... i'll maybe think about letting you drive my car...

not sure if on dual driver cars if you can boot 1 driver and grab an instructor or if both drivers have to ride in that vehical every run. not sure about how much clutch abuse i want to subject my lil subaru to

Does anyone have a link or some info on how points work? I don't expect to be winning any points yet (i'm sorta assuming only top 3 or 5 get points but maybe everyone gets some no matter where you finish) But i would love to know how the points system works.

MPREZIV · 2006-04-03, 11:08 AM

what's this sun-burn crap? I hardly saw the sun, let alone enough for someone to get burned. or so I thought!

A1337STI · 2006-04-03, 11:18 AM

I haven't been out in the sun (with out helmet and snowboard googles) since last summer, and just wasn't thinking to use sun block or use a hat. And you don't need to see the sun, UV rays go right through clouds, I'm just too pale for this latitude and altitude.

cody · 2006-04-03, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

what's this sun-burn crap? I hardly saw the sun, let alone enough for someone to get burned. or so I thought!

I feel the urge to draw a diagram of UV rays penetrating cloud cover and striking red faced Anglo-Saxons while Corey looks on unscathed.

MPREZIV · 2006-04-03, 11:27 AM

that must really be the case... I am fully aware that UV rays go through clouds, but didn't know that it would still be so bad that one could burn!

Damn, you white dudes have it worse than I thought!

cody · 2006-04-03, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1337STI

and wow you rock Cody , goes out to work! LMK if you need a ride i can leave from tahoe a few minutes early and pick you up... i'll maybe think about letting you drive my car...

not sure if on dual driver cars if you can boot 1 driver and grab an instructor or if both drivers have to ride in that vehical every run. not sure about how much clutch abuse i want to subject my lil subaru to

Just let me know when to be ready and if you'd want coffee.

Kevin M · 2006-04-03, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1337STI

i'll maybe think about letting you drive my car...

not sure if on dual driver cars if you can boot 1 driver and grab an instructor or if both drivers have to ride in that vehical every run. not sure about how much clutch abuse i want to subject my lil subaru to

Does anyone have a link or some info on how points work? I don't expect to be winning any points yet (i'm sorta assuming only top 3 or 5 get points but maybe everyone gets some no matter where you finish) But i would love to know how the points system works.

With two driver cars, you can run with or without the other driver in the car, or take anybody else, it's up to the two of you. Most people will copilot for the first few runs, and get 2-3 solo runs to go after the points. It's a nice advantage actually, provided your brakes and tires can withstand the extra heat- which yours can. Being able to compare notes and strategy with someone driving the same course in the same car helps.

Points are pretty simple- clicky for last year's results. 21 points for 1st, 16 for second, 14 for third, 12 for 4th, then -1 for each successive place. You always get one point for competing, regardless of the number of finishers.

cody · 2006-04-03, 11:40 AM

What's the difference between points and points with drops?

MikeK · 2006-04-03, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cody

What's the difference between points and points with drops?

Over the course of a year you get to drop your 4 worst results. i.e. for a competition with 16 rounds, only your best 12 results will count towards your final points tally

cody · 2006-04-03, 11:59 AM

So "no-shows" count as drops right?

Also, how do "Novice" points transfer if you decide to start competing in a real class mid season? I think you guys were saying they were transferable IIRC.

A1337STI · 2006-04-03, 02:04 PM

So if i understand everything correctly.
1) Codriven cars, or single driven cars, may elect to have anyone for a ride along?
2) Only Solo Runs count for points ?

Nick Koan · 2006-04-03, 02:35 PM

any run counts for points (except for run-no-points).

but, you can have passengers along and score points.

Joeyy · 2006-04-03, 03:45 PM

Are the run schedules for the weekends set in stone? I may have to work on some afternoons but would love to run in the mornings so would not have any drop weekends. April and May it will not matter but June and July I may only be able to run in the A.M. Don't want to wine but I have to pay the bills.

sperry · 2006-04-03, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

With two driver cars, you can run with or without the other driver in the car, or take anybody else, it's up to the two of you. Most people will copilot for the first few runs, and get 2-3 solo runs to go after the points. It's a nice advantage actually, provided your brakes and tires can withstand the extra heat- which yours can. Being able to compare notes and strategy with someone driving the same course in the same car helps.

Points are pretty simple- clicky for last year's results. 21 points for 1st, 16 for second, 14 for third, 12 for 4th, then -1 for each successive place. You always get one point for competing, regardless of the number of finishers.

For class points, you do not get 1 point regardless of place, though there are very few classes with more than 10 competitors at an event so getting 0 class points is rare.

In PAX, the scale is 21,19,18,17,16... down to 1, then 1 point for every competitor thereafter.

Kevin M · 2006-04-03, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeyy

Are the run schedules for the weekends set in stone? I may have to work on some afternoons but would love to run in the mornings so would not have any drop weekends. April and May it will not matter but June and July I may only be able to run in the A.M. Don't want to wine but I have to pay the bills.

Yeah, they're set. Unfortunately, if you can't be at the track during your scheduled run group and work the appropriate session, you can't get points. You could still run RNP in the morning if you wanted though.

sperry · 2006-04-03, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Yeah, they're set. Unfortunately, if you can't be at the track during your scheduled run group and work the appropriate session, you can't get points. You could still run RNP in the morning if you wanted though.

On occation drivers have asked their class competitors if they'd allow 'em to run out of class in the morning for situations like that.

Unless there's a chance of afternoon only rain, usually people don't have a problem with it, but you have to make sure to bring it up the event before w/ your competition, and realize that if someone later decides to protest your out of class runs, it will more than likely be upheld.

dknv · 2006-04-03, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

On occation drivers have asked their class competitors if they'd allow 'em to run out of class in the morning for situations like that.

I believe you have to request permission from the event chair as well.

MikeK · 2006-04-03, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

there are very few classes with more than 10 competitors at an event so getting 0 class points is rare.

Jim and Victor might be fighting for the last point a few times this year

MattR · 2006-04-03, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

Jim and Victor might be fighting for the last point a few times this year

That's cold!!!! hahaha. I talked to Victor this weekend, he may have something up his sleeve.

Dean · 2006-04-03, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

Dude, I had a lot of fun working the stations.

With Emily....

NevadaSTi · 2006-04-03, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV

that must really be the case... I am fully aware that UV rays go through clouds, but didn't know that it would still be so bad that one could burn!

Damn, you white dudes have it worse than I thought!

Then just imagine being me, mister WHITE BOY WITH RED HAIR!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

With Emily....

I second that vote. Any objections?

Kevin M · 2006-04-03, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NevadaSTi

Any objections?

Only to your new sig.

cody · 2006-04-03, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

With Emily....

2006-04-03, 11:05 AM	#177
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	No, if you co-drive you have to pay. Working is free. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-04-03, 11:07 AM	#178
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	my forehead, nose and checks are RED . Very RED. i kept waking up last night . aaah sun screen. yes, uv goes through clouds. DOH and wow you rock Cody , goes out to work! LMK if you need a ride i can leave from tahoe a few minutes early and pick you up... i'll maybe think about letting you drive my car... not sure if on dual driver cars if you can boot 1 driver and grab an instructor or if both drivers have to ride in that vehical every run. not sure about how much clutch abuse i want to subject my lil subaru to Does anyone have a link or some info on how points work? I don't expect to be winning any points yet (i'm sorta assuming only top 3 or 5 get points but maybe everyone gets some no matter where you finish) But i would love to know how the points system works. __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-04-03, 11:08 AM	#179
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	what's this sun-burn crap? I hardly saw the sun, let alone enough for someone to get burned. or so I thought! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-04-03, 11:18 AM	#180
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	I haven't been out in the sun (with out helmet and snowboard googles) since last summer, and just wasn't thinking to use sun block or use a hat. And you don't need to see the sun, UV rays go right through clouds, I'm just too pale for this latitude and altitude. __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-04-03, 11:27 AM	#182
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	that must really be the case... I am fully aware that UV rays go through clouds, but didn't know that it would still be so bad that one could burn! Damn, you white dudes have it worse than I thought! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2006-04-03, 11:40 AM	#185
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	What's the difference between points and points with drops?

2006-04-03, 11:59 AM	#187
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	So "no-shows" count as drops right? Also, how do "Novice" points transfer if you decide to start competing in a real class mid season? I think you guys were saying they were transferable IIRC.

2006-04-03, 02:04 PM	#188
A1337STI EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,840 Car: Impreza and an Impreza Class: AS / CRS PerfStock "pedal on the right"	So if i understand everything correctly. 1) Codriven cars, or single driven cars, may elect to have anyone for a ride along? 2) Only Solo Runs count for points ? __________________ Fighting uphill battles, one bullet at a time!

2006-04-03, 02:35 PM	#189
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	any run counts for points (except for run-no-points). but, you can have passengers along and score points. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN Last edited by Nick Koan; 2006-04-03 at 02:39 PM.

2006-04-03, 03:45 PM	#190
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	Are the run schedules for the weekends set in stone? I may have to work on some afternoons but would love to run in the mornings so would not have any drop weekends. April and May it will not matter but June and July I may only be able to run in the A.M. Don't want to wine but I have to pay the bills.

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