Tell me how to adjust clutch PLEASE! - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-12-26, 03:08 PM

Ok. I have the exedy stage 1 organic from gruppe-s. Its the same setup as my friend loren. Yet my clutch feels like doo doo. We bled the fluid a few weeks ago and that made a big difference but it still sucks. Each time I get in the car its like im learning to work a clutch all over again. There is play up top, there is play on the bottom, and it releases at a weird spot. I have searched around on NASIOC and have only seen "well thats a sign of a burned out clutch blah blah blah" "you shouldnt touch anything down there blah blah blah". The reason I think that I can adjust the clutch is because my friends car with the exact same setup feels 100% different then mine. His clutch engages close to the floor in stead of mid swing for mine, and he has less travel. So either something on my car is borked or I should be able to adjust the clutch. Give me some advice since I have not a clue.

sperry · 2007-12-26, 04:21 PM

I thought engagement near the floor was bad? I know I like my clutch to engage as near the top as possible, since that means less time between shifts... on my WRX I can shift with just a tap of the pedal. With the engagement all the way at the bottom (like when I trashed my HyperSingle) it's a ton more work to get the pedal all the way down, and it makes double-clutching a long process.

As far as adjusting it, check the service manual. I think there's a procedure in there for changing the throw (though I might be thinking of the brake pedal). But like you've been reading, unless you broke or bent something, it shouldn't need adjustment.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-12-26, 05:20 PM

IIRC every new MT car that I have driven engages the clutch close to the floor making it easier to drive. And I have driven my car and my friends car and I WAY prefer how his engages closer to the floor. At least for my DD car that doesn't get raced on a track.

sperry · 2007-12-26, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

IIRC every new MT car that I have driven engages the clutch close to the floor making it easier to drive. And I have driven my car and my friends car and I WAY prefer how his engages closer to the floor. At least for my DD car that doesn't get raced on a track.

I guess I'm confused how that's "easier". It's it a lot easier to push the pedal down say 2" to shift, than to have to push it 9", no?

I guess I haven't driven a car w/ a soft clutch in a while... on the WRX, I just want to stab the clutch part way down real quick to give the gearbox just enough slack to grab the next gear for up shifts.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-12-26, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

I guess I'm confused how that's "easier". It's it a lot easier to push the pedal down say 2" to shift, than to have to push it 9", no?

I guess I haven't driven a car w/ a soft clutch in a while... on the WRX, I just want to stab the clutch part way down real quick to give the gearbox just enough slack to grab the next gear for up shifts.

I agree that shifting from 2nd + with the clutch engaging 2" from the top is faster. I have experienced that since the install. On a DD car that is going from stop to start and having the radio on and distractions blah blah blah... its easier to know that once you start to lift your foot, your car starts to move. Not to try and find when the mystical engage spot is. I will let you drive my car if you get some time. I am not saying weather its setup right or wrong, im just saying its a bitch to drive and I would like to change it if I can.

Kevin M · 2007-12-26, 11:34 PM

I like the mythical engagement point.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-12-27, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

I like the mythical engagement point.

Its not a mythical. Its mystical.

Kevin M · 2007-12-27, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Its not a mythical. Its mystical.

That one sucks. I'm talking about the one I had on my blue RS before I replaced the clutch slave. It had a burr or something in the cylinder and as you released, it would catch and then spring out and make it really really really hard to engage the clutch slowly.

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-12-27, 09:41 AM

Wait, so you replaced the slave and it fixed your problem?

Kevin M · 2007-12-27, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Wait, so you replaced the slave and it fixed your problem?

Funny how often that's the case ain't it?

100_Percent_Juice · 2007-12-27, 01:51 PM

yeah. I cant tell you how many slaves ive replaced.

sperry · 2007-12-27, 03:36 PM

This thread is going nowhere fast.

Kevin M · 2007-12-27, 04:06 PM

We know how to make things go nowhere faster around here. With whips!

bxracer69 · 2007-12-28, 03:46 AM

lets get another slave on it.... might start moving faster

keep up the whipping

MPREZIV · 2007-12-28, 07:51 AM

Jesse Jackson would be ashamed of you guys...

I on the other hand, think it's HILARIOUS!

100_Percent_Juice · 2008-02-06, 11:10 AM

Above the clutch pedal there is a mounted sensor that makes contact with the clutch when its at rest. There is a small pin that extends out of the end. What is that for? On the same mounting location is a spring that I assume is used to keep the clutch from slamming up. I had a whole bunch of free play up top, so I adjusted the nut on the sensor so it is lower. Was that an OK thing to do?

sperry · 2008-02-06, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Above the clutch pedal there is a mounted sensor that makes contact with the clutch when its at rest. There is a small pin that extends out of the end. What is that for? On the same mounting location is a spring that I assume is used to keep the clutch from slamming up. I had a whole bunch of free play up top, so I adjusted the nut on the sensor so it is lower. Was that an OK thing to do?

I believe that sensor is the switch that lets the car know you've disengaged the clutch allowing the starter to work to prevent people from starting the car with it in gear.

100_Percent_Juice · 2008-02-06, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

I believe that sensor is the switch that lets the car know you've disengaged the clutch allowing the starter to work to prevent people from starting the car with it in gear.

I didn't think that was it merely because my clutch pedal has to be touching the floor before it will start. This pin loses contact with the pedal long before that. I could be wrong, I am just going off of what I see.

sperry · 2008-02-06, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

I didn't think that was it merely because my clutch pedal has to be touching the floor before it will start. This pin loses contact with the pedal long before that. I could be wrong, I am just going off of what I see.

Hmm... well I didn't think there was anything else sensor-ish on the clutch pedal besides that switch.

MPREZIV · 2008-02-06, 12:30 PM

Disables cruise control...

cody · 2008-02-06, 01:34 PM

^It's almost like you do this for a living.

The clutch does disable cruise control, long before it touches the ground.

MPREZIV · 2008-02-06, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

^It's almost like you do this for a living.

The clutch does disable cruise control, long before it touches the ground.

2007-12-26, 03:08 PM	#1
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Tell me how to adjust clutch PLEASE! Ok. I have the exedy stage 1 organic from gruppe-s. Its the same setup as my friend loren. Yet my clutch feels like doo doo. We bled the fluid a few weeks ago and that made a big difference but it still sucks. Each time I get in the car its like im learning to work a clutch all over again. There is play up top, there is play on the bottom, and it releases at a weird spot. I have searched around on NASIOC and have only seen "well thats a sign of a burned out clutch blah blah blah" "you shouldnt touch anything down there blah blah blah". The reason I think that I can adjust the clutch is because my friends car with the exact same setup feels 100% different then mine. His clutch engages close to the floor in stead of mid swing for mine, and he has less travel. So either something on my car is borked or I should be able to adjust the clutch. Give me some advice since I have not a clue. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-12-26, 04:21 PM	#2
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	I thought engagement near the floor was bad? I know I like my clutch to engage as near the top as possible, since that means less time between shifts... on my WRX I can shift with just a tap of the pedal. With the engagement all the way at the bottom (like when I trashed my HyperSingle) it's a ton more work to get the pedal all the way down, and it makes double-clutching a long process. As far as adjusting it, check the service manual. I think there's a procedure in there for changing the throw (though I might be thinking of the brake pedal). But like you've been reading, unless you broke or bent something, it shouldn't need adjustment. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2007-12-26, 05:20 PM	#3
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	IIRC every new MT car that I have driven engages the clutch close to the floor making it easier to drive. And I have driven my car and my friends car and I WAY prefer how his engages closer to the floor. At least for my DD car that doesn't get raced on a track. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-12-26, 11:34 PM	#6
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I like the mythical engagement point. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-12-27, 09:41 AM	#9
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Wait, so you replaced the slave and it fixed your problem? __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-12-27, 01:51 PM	#11
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	yeah. I cant tell you how many slaves ive replaced. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2007-12-27, 03:36 PM	#12
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	This thread is going nowhere fast. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2007-12-27, 04:06 PM	#13
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	We know how to make things go nowhere faster around here. With whips! __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-12-28, 03:46 AM	#14
bxracer69 EJ22 Real Name: Nick Langkamp Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the Road Posts: 384 Car: 2003 Mitsubishi Evo8 Class: SM Snowboarding....Because gravity is cheaper than gas	lets get another slave on it.... might start moving faster keep up the whipping __________________ My better is better than your best. My fast smells like french toast. www.langkampracing.com

2007-12-28, 07:51 AM	#15
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Jesse Jackson would be ashamed of you guys... I on the other hand, think it's HILARIOUS! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2008-02-06, 11:10 AM	#16
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Above the clutch pedal there is a mounted sensor that makes contact with the clutch when its at rest. There is a small pin that extends out of the end. What is that for? On the same mounting location is a spring that I assume is used to keep the clutch from slamming up. I had a whole bunch of free play up top, so I adjusted the nut on the sensor so it is lower. Was that an OK thing to do? __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2008-02-06, 12:30 PM	#20
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Disables cruise control... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2008-02-06, 01:34 PM	#21
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	^It's almost like you do this for a living. The clutch does disable cruise control, long before it touches the ground. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

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