Local Amsoil or Motul Dealers? - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

cody · 2008-07-07, 02:45 PM

I'm looking for either Amsoil Severe Gear 75-90 or Motul Gear 300 75-90. Anywhere local or in CA so I can get it before the weekend without paying an arm and a leg. I checked Summit's website and they don't have 'em.

I'll proably just do the Redline Shockproof LW from Summit if I can't get the above.

Nick Koan · 2008-07-07, 03:21 PM

I know BVH carries both brands, but I don't think they'd carry car specific gear oils (unless you were lucky enough that it happened to crossover with some of their bike/quad/watercraft type stuff).

As a last resort, you could ask, but I'd say your chances are slim there.

Also, did you try calling our local favorite of C&C?

cody · 2008-07-07, 03:35 PM

BVH?

I talked to a guy at Napa that said I should call "Washoe Keystone Lubrication" but they don't seem to exist under that name?

Nick Koan · 2008-07-07, 03:38 PM

Big Valley Honda.

Dean · 2008-07-08, 12:24 AM

Amsoil web site should have a dealer list.

I think Sunshine in Sparks is... The place that does tire shaving.

cody · 2008-07-08, 03:44 PM

Yah, Sunshine is the local Amsoil dealer. They have the Severe Gear for $15/qt. I think I'll just stop by Summit and grab some Redline 75w90 NS or Shockproof LW.

sperry · 2008-07-08, 03:59 PM

The redline 75w90ns sucks in the tranny... no grip for the synchros, even harder to shit into 1st than stock.

cody · 2008-07-08, 04:11 PM

Hmm, I thought since it didn't have slip modifiers it was okay. I know the 75w90 is way too slippery (much like mobil-1). I'll go Shockproof LW though. I've heard tons of good reviews in the 5spd box.

sperry · 2008-07-08, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

Hmm, I thought since it didn't have slip modifiers it was okay. I know the 75w90 is way too slippery (much like mobil-1). I'll go Shockproof LW though. I've heard tons of good reviews in the 5spd box.

The "ns" means "don't use this in a rear LSD that needs a slip modifier", which normally also means "this is okay for your gearbox". The problem is that the Subaru 5MTs are finicky to begin with, and the stuff is just too slippery for the synchros to grab, so they take forever to sync and you end up either grinding gears or are just not able to get into 1st at anything faster than a complete stop.

I tried the RL 75w80ns before and hated it... within a week, I had dumped it in favor of a 50/50 blend of 75w90ns and Shockproof LW... then later just started running the LW shockproof 100%, even in my 6MT.

cody · 2008-07-08, 04:32 PM

Cool, I'll add you to the list of people to recomend it and pick some up ahorita.

killer60foot · 2008-07-08, 05:32 PM

I have a friend who should be able to offer everything that amsoil makes.....his name is dwayne and number is 775-997-8060 if your interested..he should be good on his pricing also...

Dean · 2008-07-08, 07:30 PM

Straight LW Shockproof FTMFW! Greatest stuff for WRX 5 speeds and pretty damn good for the MT6 in the STI.

Sue's wagon sucked big time until we swapped in shockproof.

F' the diffs,

The synchros will fail long before the diffs is the theory and shifting smoothly is a whole lot more fun than not. I'm actually not convinced the diffs even care based on the very low speed differentials they operate at. As long as it doesn't affect the LSD/DCCD functions, I'm all about protecting the things that take the most load/impact, the transmission.

Don't even bother with the "Cocktail". Too much cost/effort for what? No science that I have seen, and just as many complaints as accolades vs. straight shockproof.

Kevin M · 2008-07-08, 07:40 PM

It's the ring and pinion, not the differential itself that needs the GL5, but otherwise I agree with you Dean. 500% better synchro performance is worth 10-20% gear and bearing life loss, which is still longer than the expected life of the car anyway.

cody · 2008-07-08, 09:27 PM

I had Uncle Scotty's Cocktail prior to this change. It really didn't feel any different than the OEM fluid I've always run. Maybe slightly better downshifting in 1st, but not really anything to write home about. I got it cheap as part of a package and saved some on shipping by ordering for me and a friend. But Nasioc has turned on the cocktail and now they recommend the two products I mentioned at the beginning of this thread.

Kevin M · 2008-07-09, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

But Nasioc has turned on the cocktail and now they recommend the two products I mentioned at the beginning of this thread.

Can't say I'm surprised (I think Uncle Scotty is a really knowledgeable guy and one of the most helpful tech contributors in the Suby community, but I've always disagreed with his gear oil choice) but don't forget that tons of people over there like Redline LW Shockproof too.

cody · 2008-07-09, 10:24 AM

Absolutely. And FWIW, the cocktail is still considered good for stretching the limited life of synchros that have started having a grinding issue.

cody · 2010-03-12, 12:13 PM

Bump. Anyone know where I can get Motul 300 75w-90 locally?

szucchet · 2010-03-13, 01:06 PM

Motormachine and Supply in reno forgot were they are located exactly, but just google it and ill come up. I bought some motul brake fluid, but they carrie the whole line of motul.

cody · 2010-03-13, 02:42 PM

Thanks, but they said they don't cary the 75w-90 Gear 300. EQTuning has it though. I made plans to pick some up in a couple weeks on our way to Monterey. Hey!

WRXlerate · 2010-03-14, 04:44 PM

Is summit racing the best, um I mean cheapest place to get the redline ??

cody · 2010-03-14, 08:03 PM

I think so. No shipping, but there is tax.

BTW, BVH can get the Gear 300 next business day for $19.95/qt. Too rich for my blood, but that's cool they can get it.

Kevin M · 2010-03-14, 08:16 PM

There's not a lot of markup on Redline, so pretty much everybody costs the same.

knucklesplitter · 2010-03-15, 09:23 AM

I get wholesale-sh prices on Amsoil if anybody wants to order any.

Also...
Royal Purple - decent prices, less than Summit in quantity.
Redline - about the same as Summit

Kevin M · 2010-03-15, 09:30 AM

Does RP come in gallon/5 quart jugs?

cody · 2010-03-15, 09:44 AM

I think it comes in a 20 quart or something like that. Never seen it in gallon/5 quart size though.

2008-07-07, 02:45 PM	#1
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Local Amsoil or Motul Dealers? I'm looking for either Amsoil Severe Gear 75-90 or Motul Gear 300 75-90. Anywhere local or in CA so I can get it before the weekend without paying an arm and a leg. I checked Summit's website and they don't have 'em. I'll proably just do the Redline Shockproof LW from Summit if I can't get the above. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-07, 03:21 PM	#2
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	I know BVH carries both brands, but I don't think they'd carry car specific gear oils (unless you were lucky enough that it happened to crossover with some of their bike/quad/watercraft type stuff). As a last resort, you could ask, but I'd say your chances are slim there. Also, did you try calling our local favorite of C&C? __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-07-07, 03:35 PM	#3
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	BVH? I talked to a guy at Napa that said I should call "Washoe Keystone Lubrication" but they don't seem to exist under that name? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-07, 03:38 PM	#4
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Big Valley Honda. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-07-08, 12:24 AM	#5
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Amsoil web site should have a dealer list. I think Sunshine in Sparks is... The place that does tire shaving. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2008-07-08, 03:44 PM	#6
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Yah, Sunshine is the local Amsoil dealer. They have the Severe Gear for $15/qt. I think I'll just stop by Summit and grab some Redline 75w90 NS or Shockproof LW. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-08, 03:59 PM	#7
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	The redline 75w90ns sucks in the tranny... no grip for the synchros, even harder to shit into 1st than stock. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2008-07-08, 04:11 PM	#8
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Hmm, I thought since it didn't have slip modifiers it was okay. I know the 75w90 is way too slippery (much like mobil-1). I'll go Shockproof LW though. I've heard tons of good reviews in the 5spd box. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-08, 04:32 PM	#10
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Cool, I'll add you to the list of people to recomend it and pick some up ahorita. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-08, 05:32 PM	#11
killer60foot EJ22 Real Name: Greg T Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Reno Posts: 116 Car: 01 IS300	I have a friend who should be able to offer everything that amsoil makes.....his name is dwayne and number is 775-997-8060 if your interested..he should be good on his pricing also...

2008-07-08, 07:30 PM	#12
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Straight LW Shockproof FTMFW! Greatest stuff for WRX 5 speeds and pretty damn good for the MT6 in the STI. Sue's wagon sucked big time until we swapped in shockproof. F' the diffs, The synchros will fail long before the diffs is the theory and shifting smoothly is a whole lot more fun than not. I'm actually not convinced the diffs even care based on the very low speed differentials they operate at. As long as it doesn't affect the LSD/DCCD functions, I'm all about protecting the things that take the most load/impact, the transmission. Don't even bother with the "Cocktail". Too much cost/effort for what? No science that I have seen, and just as many complaints as accolades vs. straight shockproof. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids... Last edited by Dean; 2008-07-08 at 07:35 PM.

2008-07-08, 07:40 PM	#13
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	It's the ring and pinion, not the differential itself that needs the GL5, but otherwise I agree with you Dean. 500% better synchro performance is worth 10-20% gear and bearing life loss, which is still longer than the expected life of the car anyway. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2008-07-08, 09:27 PM	#14
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I had Uncle Scotty's Cocktail prior to this change. It really didn't feel any different than the OEM fluid I've always run. Maybe slightly better downshifting in 1st, but not really anything to write home about. I got it cheap as part of a package and saved some on shipping by ordering for me and a friend. But Nasioc has turned on the cocktail and now they recommend the two products I mentioned at the beginning of this thread. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-07-09, 10:24 AM	#16
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Absolutely. And FWIW, the cocktail is still considered good for stretching the limited life of synchros that have started having a grinding issue. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2010-03-12, 12:13 PM	#17
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Bump. Anyone know where I can get Motul 300 75w-90 locally? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2010-03-13, 01:06 PM	#18
szucchet EJ22 Real Name: Silvio Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: sacramento, ca Posts: 271 Car: 2004 Subaru STI Class: 04 TSM smooth is fast	Motormachine and Supply in reno forgot were they are located exactly, but just google it and ill come up. I bought some motul brake fluid, but they carrie the whole line of motul. __________________ funny how day by day nothing changes, but when i look back everything is different

2010-03-13, 02:42 PM	#19
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Thanks, but they said they don't cary the 75w-90 Gear 300. EQTuning has it though. I made plans to pick some up in a couple weeks on our way to Monterey. Hey! __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2010-03-14, 04:44 PM	#20
WRXlerate EJ22 Real Name: John B. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind a brick wall. Posts: 471 Car: 02 Soccermom Wagon Class: "sleeper" Destroying V8 Egos 4 cylinders at a time	Is summit racing the best, um I mean cheapest place to get the redline ?? __________________ Stuff sold by the gram is always more exciting than stuff sold by the pound. JC

2010-03-14, 08:03 PM	#21
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I think so. No shipping, but there is tax. BTW, BVH can get the Gear 300 next business day for $19.95/qt. Too rich for my blood, but that's cool they can get it. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2010-03-14, 08:16 PM	#22
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	There's not a lot of markup on Redline, so pretty much everybody costs the same. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2010-03-15, 09:23 AM	#23
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,475 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	I get wholesale-sh prices on Amsoil if anybody wants to order any. Also... Royal Purple - decent prices, less than Summit in quantity. Redline - about the same as Summit

2010-03-15, 09:30 AM	#24
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Does RP come in gallon/5 quart jugs? __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2010-03-15, 09:44 AM	#25
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I think it comes in a 20 quart or something like that. Never seen it in gallon/5 quart size though. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

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