C.A.R.S. aka Cash for Clunkers - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Kunikos · 2009-07-07, 03:31 PM

If you've got an older car that gets less than 18 MPG and isn't worth shit, but want to trade it in for a new car then the new C.A.R.S. program from the gov't can help:

http://www.cars.gov/

It's a bit convoluted but if you get a brand new car (never titled) with at least 4 MPG higher (IE minimum of 22 combined MPG) you get $3,500 trade-in (and then they crush your old car). If it's 10 MPG higher you get $4,500 trade-in value for the new car. If you're trading in for a truck, van, or SUV, then it's only 2 MPG higher and minimum of 18 MPG you get $3,500, and 5 MPG higher or better then $4,500.

This is better than the original proposed one which was just for American-made cars, because I think figuring out what counted and what didn't gave them a serious headache. Foreign company cars can be assembled in the US, etc.

So I'm looking at my 1997 Chrysler LHS which according to http://www.fueleconomy.gov gets 18 combined MPG and it looks like it doesn't qualify for a $3,500 trade-in for the CX-9 I was looking at. The CX-9 FWD gets exactly 18 MPG (so the AWD version doesn't qualify ever) but it isn't at least 4 MPG higher than what I have. If I had a car with shittier gas mileage then it would. Bummer.

MikeK · 2009-07-07, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kunikos

If I had a car with shittier gas mileage then it would. Bummer.

Just deflate your tires, leave the handbrake on, leave the windows open and drive with the a.c. on all the time.

sperry · 2009-07-07, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

Just deflate your tires, leave the handbrake on, leave the windows open and drive with the a.c. on all the time.

And yet the EPA estimate remains the same!

Kunikos · 2009-07-24, 09:53 AM

A lot of dealerships and such are offering double money on C.A.R.S. instant rebates, like Ford, Chevy, and BMW, on select models. I believe Ford is for the Focus, and BMW on the 335d.

Too bad there is no Focus RS in the US, $9K towards it might be worth it then. I wonder if Mazda is offering it towards a 3 hatch, I could do with a '09 Sport.

cody · 2009-07-24, 10:55 AM

We just got an '09 3 but we would have only had a '98 Civic to trade in for it which actually got better mileage than the 3. Oh well.

Kevin M · 2009-07-24, 11:30 AM

That "double cash" offer is against full MSRP I bet.

murphy · 2009-07-31, 11:17 AM

funny the program is already broke...congress is haveing a bitch of a time finding the cash to support the program..OH WELL another Obama admin. failure.

MPREZIV · 2009-07-31, 11:30 AM

Apparently, we're supposed to be participating in this here at Nissan. Awesome thing is, when we take a car in on this program, no matter the condition, we're supposed to drain the engine oil, start the motor, and let it run until it seizes. Then the car will be collected and crushed. Pure win.

sperry · 2009-07-31, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by murphy

funny the program is already broke...congress is haveing a bitch of a time finding the cash to support the program..OH WELL another Obama admin. failure.

They just tripled the money available to the program.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aZQsGa9XbZGY

murphy · 2009-07-31, 11:46 AM

OH well deeper in debt we go.

sperry · 2009-07-31, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by murphy

OH well deeper in debt we go.

What's another $3B?

At least this money is putting cash into the pockets of car dealerships/manufacturers and selling a bunch of new cars, rather than just pumping money into banks and lenders that just sit on it instead of lending it out like they were supposed to.

Kunikos · 2009-08-05, 07:45 PM

Yeah bailin out AIG just let Goldman Sachs execs swim around in big Scrooge McDuck sized pool of money

Kunikos · 2009-08-05, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by murphy

funny the program is already broke...congress is haveing a bitch of a time finding the cash to support the program..OH WELL another Obama admin. failure.

Don't you mean congress? How does Obama relate to this at all when it was bipartisan designed in both houses of congress and run by non-appointed bodies of government? Stop parroting republican pundit bullshit, please.

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-05, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kunikos

Don't you mean congress? How does Obama relate to this at all when it was bipartisan designed in both houses of congress and run by non-appointed bodies of government? Stop parroting republican pundit bullshit, please.

Pwned.

2009-07-07, 03:31 PM	#1
Kunikos EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: QT3 Forums Posts: 213 Car: Three-Dead-Hooker-Trunk Devilmobile Xfire: Kunikos	C.A.R.S. aka Cash for Clunkers If you've got an older car that gets less than 18 MPG and isn't worth shit, but want to trade it in for a new car then the new C.A.R.S. program from the gov't can help: http://www.cars.gov/ It's a bit convoluted but if you get a brand new car (never titled) with at least 4 MPG higher (IE minimum of 22 combined MPG) you get $3,500 trade-in (and then they crush your old car). If it's 10 MPG higher you get $4,500 trade-in value for the new car. If you're trading in for a truck, van, or SUV, then it's only 2 MPG higher and minimum of 18 MPG you get $3,500, and 5 MPG higher or better then $4,500. This is better than the original proposed one which was just for American-made cars, because I think figuring out what counted and what didn't gave them a serious headache. Foreign company cars can be assembled in the US, etc. So I'm looking at my 1997 Chrysler LHS which according to http://www.fueleconomy.gov gets 18 combined MPG and it looks like it doesn't qualify for a $3,500 trade-in for the CX-9 I was looking at. The CX-9 FWD gets exactly 18 MPG (so the AWD version doesn't qualify ever) but it isn't at least 4 MPG higher than what I have. If I had a car with shittier gas mileage then it would. Bummer. __________________ "What can change the nature of a man?" - Ravel Puzzlewell

2009-07-24, 09:53 AM	#4
Kunikos EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: QT3 Forums Posts: 213 Car: Three-Dead-Hooker-Trunk Devilmobile Xfire: Kunikos	A lot of dealerships and such are offering double money on C.A.R.S. instant rebates, like Ford, Chevy, and BMW, on select models. I believe Ford is for the Focus, and BMW on the 335d. Too bad there is no Focus RS in the US, $9K towards it might be worth it then. I wonder if Mazda is offering it towards a 3 hatch, I could do with a '09 Sport. __________________ "What can change the nature of a man?" - Ravel Puzzlewell

2009-07-24, 10:55 AM	#5
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	We just got an '09 3 but we would have only had a '98 Civic to trade in for it which actually got better mileage than the 3. Oh well. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-07-24, 11:30 AM	#6
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	That "double cash" offer is against full MSRP I bet. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-07-31, 11:30 AM	#8
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Apparently, we're supposed to be participating in this here at Nissan. Awesome thing is, when we take a car in on this program, no matter the condition, we're supposed to drain the engine oil, start the motor, and let it run until it seizes. Then the car will be collected and crushed. Pure win. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2009-07-31, 11:17 AM	#7
murphy EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: RENO Posts: 484 Car: 03 evo, 06 R6	funny the program is already broke...congress is haveing a bitch of a time finding the cash to support the program..OH WELL another Obama admin. failure.

2009-07-31, 11:46 AM	#10
murphy EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: RENO Posts: 484 Car: 03 evo, 06 R6	OH well deeper in debt we go.

2009-08-05, 07:45 PM	#12
Kunikos EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: QT3 Forums Posts: 213 Car: Three-Dead-Hooker-Trunk Devilmobile Xfire: Kunikos	Yeah bailin out AIG just let Goldman Sachs execs swim around in big Scrooge McDuck sized pool of money __________________ "What can change the nature of a man?" - Ravel Puzzlewell