2005 RS Delta Cam install - Page 3 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

bigrobwoot · 2009-07-14, 08:01 PM

Na, the water pump gasket comes with the gasket overhaul kit I have to buy anyway, and the timing belt and water pump is ~$184 shipped. I'd like to help your buddy out, but the price difference is significant enough for me to go with sgp. Sorry

cody · 2009-07-14, 08:04 PM

No worries.

MPREZIV · 2009-07-15, 06:38 AM

Probably a better chance of my having some free time on the first of those two weekends.

bigrobwoot · 2009-07-15, 11:46 AM

Great, I have the Friday and Monday off, with the option of Tuesday, either to finish it up, or enjoy it

I'll let my pops know (he'll be joining us probably, if you don't mind) and order everything. Should I see if Robby will let us use his lift? I'm not sure we'll need it, all the bolts should be on top, except the ones holding the engine to the tranny, but lemme know what you think. Thanks cory

MPREZIV · 2009-07-15, 11:48 AM

The lift helps, but is not required.

bigrobwoot · 2009-07-21, 10:56 AM

I promised myself I'd quit bumping this thread, but here I go...

I went to kragen and asked about a couple of the parts I'm looking to replace for this cam job, and the timing belt and water pump are significantly cheaper than subarugenuineparts.com, which I can only assume is even cheaper than the dealership. Do youthink they are the same oem parts, or do you think they are knockoff kragen brand or something? Do you think they would be lower quality than getting oem from sgp or the dealership? Thanks

cody · 2009-07-21, 11:12 AM

Personally, I'd do OEM over Kragen. This isn't an alternator or a battery, it's an item that will allow the destruction of your motor if it fails. The only other brand I'd get is Gates, but I don't think they're much of a savings. And then you have to ask yourself if you want Gates Racing or just standard...

WRXlerate · 2009-07-21, 11:21 AM

^+2
I wouldn't trust the one main belt to some aftermarket brand probably made in mexico. I have only used OEM timing belts on all of my projects. Alt and power steering I sometimes use aftermarket if I need it right away but even for those belts the cost is usually about the same and you don't have to make several trips to the store because the knucklehead continues to give you a part that says it will fit but does not. Spend the extra $10 or however much it is and sleep better at night

I've also heard good about Gates. The racing version might make a little noise like the STi belt over a wrx belt, I like the noise personally.

I know it's a different app but my brother had a kragen T-belt break on his honda with about 15k mi and a little less than a year old. I checked the tension on it personally and it wasn't too tight or too loose......just a little food for thought.

bigrobwoot · 2009-07-21, 12:32 PM

It's like half the price, but I didn't know if that was mark-up or quality difference. I'll go quality, thanks fellas

Kevin M · 2009-07-21, 02:10 PM

I'm with those guys. On parts that won't cause other damage if they fail, it's not so bad to save a buck. But a timing belt- yeah, I'd go OEM (and did, twice).

khail19 · 2009-07-21, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigrobwoot

I promised myself I'd quit bumping this thread, but here I go...

I went to kragen and asked about a couple of the parts I'm looking to replace for this cam job, and the timing belt and water pump are significantly cheaper than subarugenuineparts.com, which I can only assume is even cheaper than the dealership. Do youthink they are the same oem parts, or do you think they are knockoff kragen brand or something? Do you think they would be lower quality than getting oem from sgp or the dealership? Thanks

I work at Kragen, but plan on buying OEM parts when it comes time to do the timing belt. In general, auto parts stores do not carry OEM parts. The quality of aftermarket parts ranges from near OEM all the way down to pure crap. So unless you are familiar with which aftermarket companies actually make quality parts (like Gates belts), I'd stick with OEM for the critical stuff.

bigrobwoot · 2009-07-21, 07:17 PM

Sounds good, thanks guys.

Do you work at the kragen on 7th and McCarran? I went in there today is why I ask

khail19 · 2009-07-21, 09:00 PM

I work at the one on Virginia and Plumb.

bigrobwoot · 2009-07-21, 10:05 PM

Oh. Then I didn't see you today. Lol

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-01, 08:15 PM

Well, thanks to Cory, I am sitting in my car breaking in my brand new cams! And, I don't have shit else to do but set my presets again, so I figured I'd bump this thread again haha. Thanks again Cory, you're the fucking man! I'm sorry I'm so broke, I'll buy you beers and dinners here and there when I can

cody · 2009-08-01, 11:10 PM

How does it run?

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-01, 11:17 PM

Pretty good! It's overheating, I think I got some air in the coolant lines, it should work itself out. It happened last time I changed the coolant as well. It's a little quicker, but I was expecting more. Oh well. I'm hoping I'll notice it more when I'm not looking for it

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-02, 07:03 AM

Dude, I thought you were gonna post up before you did it. I wanted to come up there.

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-02, 09:38 AM

Oh shit, sorry man. Cory even asked if you were coming, and I just said no. I didn't even know you wanted to come... Although I'm sure if I look back in the thread, you said you did... Or maybe ou told me in person. I dunno. Sorry Joel. The good news is, I didn't lose your bit, even tho I couldn't find it for a couple minutes

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-02, 09:41 AM

We talked about it when you were at my house getting the torx bits. Did you end up finding out the difference between torx and torx+?

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-02, 11:39 AM

Cory tried to explain it to me, but I didn't quite follow. The answer is "not much" though. It actually requires a torx+, but the torx 40 is similar enough to work as long as you're careful. Which means I had Cory do it

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-02, 11:13 PM

Oh yeah, Cory also fixed all those idling issues I was having. Turns out, I forgot to reattach a ground while replacing my clutch at Robby's house

And now that I attached it, I have no more issues. Thanks again Cory!

The other great news: the more I drive it, and the more my ecu learns, the more I fall in love with these cams!

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-08-03, 06:53 AM

I bet it sounds pretty cool now.

bigrobwoot · 2009-08-03, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

I bet it sounds pretty cool now.

It does. Not much of a difference in the exhaust, but enough for me to notice the sound difference. The cams sound sick too

2009-07-14, 08:04 PM	#52
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	No worries. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-07-15, 06:38 AM	#53
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Probably a better chance of my having some free time on the first of those two weekends. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2009-07-15, 11:48 AM	#55
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	The lift helps, but is not required. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2009-07-21, 11:12 AM	#57
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Personally, I'd do OEM over Kragen. This isn't an alternator or a battery, it's an item that will allow the destruction of your motor if it fails. The only other brand I'd get is Gates, but I don't think they're much of a savings. And then you have to ask yourself if you want Gates Racing or just standard... __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-07-21, 11:21 AM	#58
WRXlerate EJ22 Real Name: John B. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind a brick wall. Posts: 471 Car: 02 Soccermom Wagon Class: "sleeper" Destroying V8 Egos 4 cylinders at a time	^+2 I wouldn't trust the one main belt to some aftermarket brand probably made in mexico. I have only used OEM timing belts on all of my projects. Alt and power steering I sometimes use aftermarket if I need it right away but even for those belts the cost is usually about the same and you don't have to make several trips to the store because the knucklehead continues to give you a part that says it will fit but does not. Spend the extra $10 or however much it is and sleep better at night I've also heard good about Gates. The racing version might make a little noise like the STi belt over a wrx belt, I like the noise personally. I know it's a different app but my brother had a kragen T-belt break on his honda with about 15k mi and a little less than a year old. I checked the tension on it personally and it wasn't too tight or too loose......just a little food for thought. __________________ Stuff sold by the gram is always more exciting than stuff sold by the pound. JC

2009-07-14, 08:01 PM	#51
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	Na, the water pump gasket comes with the gasket overhaul kit I have to buy anyway, and the timing belt and water pump is ~$184 shipped. I'd like to help your buddy out, but the price difference is significant enough for me to go with sgp. Sorry

2009-07-15, 11:46 AM	#54
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	Great, I have the Friday and Monday off, with the option of Tuesday, either to finish it up, or enjoy it I'll let my pops know (he'll be joining us probably, if you don't mind) and order everything. Should I see if Robby will let us use his lift? I'm not sure we'll need it, all the bolts should be on top, except the ones holding the engine to the tranny, but lemme know what you think. Thanks cory

2009-07-21, 10:56 AM	#56
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	I promised myself I'd quit bumping this thread, but here I go... I went to kragen and asked about a couple of the parts I'm looking to replace for this cam job, and the timing belt and water pump are significantly cheaper than subarugenuineparts.com, which I can only assume is even cheaper than the dealership. Do youthink they are the same oem parts, or do you think they are knockoff kragen brand or something? Do you think they would be lower quality than getting oem from sgp or the dealership? Thanks

2009-07-21, 12:32 PM	#59
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	It's like half the price, but I didn't know if that was mark-up or quality difference. I'll go quality, thanks fellas

2009-07-21, 02:10 PM	#60
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I'm with those guys. On parts that won't cause other damage if they fail, it's not so bad to save a buck. But a timing belt- yeah, I'd go OEM (and did, twice). __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-07-21, 07:17 PM	#62
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	Sounds good, thanks guys. Do you work at the kragen on 7th and McCarran? I went in there today is why I ask

2009-07-21, 09:00 PM	#63
khail19 EJ205 Real Name: Khail Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,769 Car: 2016 VW GTI Meets? We have meets?	I work at the one on Virginia and Plumb.

2009-07-21, 10:05 PM	#64
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	Oh. Then I didn't see you today. Lol

2009-08-01, 08:15 PM	#65
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	Well, thanks to Cory, I am sitting in my car breaking in my brand new cams! And, I don't have shit else to do but set my presets again, so I figured I'd bump this thread again haha. Thanks again Cory, you're the fucking man! I'm sorry I'm so broke, I'll buy you beers and dinners here and there when I can

2009-08-01, 11:10 PM	#66
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	How does it run? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-08-01, 11:17 PM	#67
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	Pretty good! It's overheating, I think I got some air in the coolant lines, it should work itself out. It happened last time I changed the coolant as well. It's a little quicker, but I was expecting more. Oh well. I'm hoping I'll notice it more when I'm not looking for it

2009-08-02, 07:03 AM	#68
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Dude, I thought you were gonna post up before you did it. I wanted to come up there. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-08-02, 09:38 AM	#69
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	Oh shit, sorry man. Cory even asked if you were coming, and I just said no. I didn't even know you wanted to come... Although I'm sure if I look back in the thread, you said you did... Or maybe ou told me in person. I dunno. Sorry Joel. The good news is, I didn't lose your bit, even tho I couldn't find it for a couple minutes Last edited by bigrobwoot; 2009-08-02 at 09:40 AM.

2009-08-02, 09:41 AM	#70
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	We talked about it when you were at my house getting the torx bits. Did you end up finding out the difference between torx and torx+? __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-08-02, 11:39 AM	#71
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	Cory tried to explain it to me, but I didn't quite follow. The answer is "not much" though. It actually requires a torx+, but the torx 40 is similar enough to work as long as you're careful. Which means I had Cory do it

2009-08-02, 11:13 PM	#72
bigrobwoot EJ251 Real Name: Rob Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 679 Car: 2019 CBS WRX Premium Class: Middle Shoot for the moon, because even if you miss, you'll still be among the stars	Oh yeah, Cory also fixed all those idling issues I was having. Turns out, I forgot to reattach a ground while replacing my clutch at Robby's house And now that I attached it, I have no more issues. Thanks again Cory! The other great news: the more I drive it, and the more my ecu learns, the more I fall in love with these cams! Last edited by bigrobwoot; 2009-08-03 at 06:13 AM.

2009-08-03, 06:53 AM	#73
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	I bet it sounds pretty cool now. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

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