Lake Tahoe cruise mid next week.

[Dean]

Originally Posted by Kevin M

I'd strongly recommend throwing in an ACT Streetlite flywheel while you're at it. They're cheap at under $240 from super low cost internet nobody stores, and a great mod even for daily drivers.

You don't need this for an organic clutch DD IMHO. Just resurface the stocker.

[Kevin M]

Originally Posted by Dean

You don't need this for an organic clutch DD IMHO. Just resurface the stocker.

It has nothing to do with the clutch material. I've just liked driving every car I've owned better with a lightweight flywheel than without. Faster free revving and less wear on your synchros since they have less rotational mass to deal with.

[bigrobwoot]

He likes drag racing tho, so that will kill his launches.

[Kevin M]

Not with a stock clutch it won't.

[bigrobwoot]

Not that I'm making WRX power, or even that I can "launch" my lil RS, but I noticed it takes more feathering with my fidanza flywheel, with the same clutch kit he's getting. Maybe more power will make up for it, because I noticed I accidentally launched and chirped the tires a bit last time I went to sea level.

[Clippersfan86]

Yea honestly I absolutely love the OEM clutch feel. I had a mini revelation. My WRX clutch has been shuddering, not catching immediately for 1-2 months it was just so subtle I didn't really put it together. I know this because after hearing you guys talk about new clutch feel and it grabbing aggressively right away. My Honda S2000 had 1800 miles on it total and the clutch felt INCREDIBLE because it was obviously new but broken in.

[Clippersfan86]

Originally Posted by Kevin M

Not with a stock clutch it won't.

Thanks for the ideas Kevin. Honestly i'm transitioning jobs so even an extra 200-300 for a flywheel probably wouldn't be smart. My plan is put the OEM new clutch in and resurface flywheel for now and when I save a little cash i'll buy a top of the line clutch and flywheel. I know clutches can be a great mod.

[Kevin M]

What? Fiscal responsibility with mods while in a state of financial flux? Unpossible.

[Clippersfan86]

Originally Posted by Kevin M

What? Fiscal responsibility with mods while in a state of financial flux? Unpossible.

Haha it's not my normal persona. I'm actually very impulsive.

[Dean]

Originally Posted by Clippersfan86

Yea honestly I absolutely love the OEM clutch feel. I had a mini revelation. My WRX clutch has been shuddering, not catching immediately for 1-2 months it was just so subtle I didn't really put it together. I know this because after hearing you guys talk about new clutch feel and it grabbing aggressively right away. My Honda S2000 had 1800 miles on it total and the clutch felt INCREDIBLE because it was obviously new but broken in.

Might be glazed, did you try rebedding it? Sometimes helps when "shuddering" or it will finish it off.

More or less what I already described, though I would add some aggressive declutch during the middle drive on downshifts to try and break up the glaze by torquing in the other direction.

I think MattR has thought his stock STI clutch was dead for 2 years now and it comes back with a few bedding launches.

[cody]

Keep in mind that a LW FW will add the Subaru deceleration noise. No biggie, but it should be known. I like the ACT Streetlite but it's not a big difference over stock AFAIC tell.

[Clippersfan86]

Originally Posted by Dean

Might be glazed, did you try rebedding it? Sometimes helps when "shuddering" or it will finish it off.

More or less what I already described, though I would add some aggressive declutch during the middle drive on downshifts to try and break up the glaze by torquing in the other direction.

I think MattR has thought his stock STI clutch was dead for 2 years now and it comes back with a few bedding launches.

Ok i'll try it but this clutch is definitely done. If I give more than 70 percent throttle before 5k RPM the clutch slips hard. It's good for me though it teaches me to not always accelerate so much. I don't race or anything but I usually accelerate moderately hard often. Now i'm forced to take off slower than mini vans passing me haha.

[A1337STI]

Originally Posted by Dean

Never do 4000RPM slipping for 200+ foot clutch smoking launches, you will glaze everything and it will likely never be the same until you swap it.

Again, your mileage may vary, no warranties expressed or implied.

Bet my clutch i got put in at 60K miles is pretty much done already .. (89K) I've done a few 5K launches with the DCCD Locked... on the bright side i learned an STI can hop with out hydrolics

I **Might** *might* have a Light wheel fly wheel to sell cheap... I bought one thinking it was legal in my rally class and after a 2nd more careful examination it looks like i "Glazed" over the "same material clause as offered by manufactor" clause... don't suppose subaru offers Chromolly steel flywheels eh?

I think ansel is getting my stock one lightened and i'm gonna swap that in and he'll get my chromolly one... stupid confusing rules....

[Clippersfan86]

STI you still want us to do your commute with you this week? Austin said it's a real nice drive so i'm down to try it. I'm thinking i'll drive to Sacramento to get my stop and go break in driving done too.

[stichris]

Originally Posted by Clippersfan86

STI you still want us to do your commute with you this week? Austin said it's a real nice drive so i'm down to try it. I'm thinking i'll drive to Sacramento to get my stop and go break in driving done too.

then u can hit up rpm raceway but if im in reno i can stop by and help u guys out with the install and also i would be down to do this drive

[Clippersfan86]

Originally Posted by stichris

then u can hit up rpm raceway but if im in reno i can stop by and help u guys out with the install and also i would be down to do this drive

Awesome man appreciate it Chris. Yea the drive we can all figure out. Austin said around Tahoe is very fun. I'll probably also do Sacramento the next day too so I get some of the stop and go I need. BTW holy shit going uphill from a stop is a nightmare with a slipping clutch. I had to brake while on a huge speed bump section in this apartment complex and my clutch slipped in a weird violent stutter/shutter way and almost stalled twice. Jesus man my clutch better come Monday or Tuesday like it's supposed to.

[stichris]

Originally Posted by Clippersfan86

Awesome man appreciate it Chris. Yea the drive we can all figure out. Austin said around Tahoe is very fun. I'll probably also do Sacramento the next day too so I get some of the stop and go I need. BTW holy shit going uphill from a stop is a nightmare with a slipping clutch. I had to brake while on a huge speed bump section in this apartment complex and my clutch slipped in a weird violent stutter/shutter way and almost stalled twice. Jesus man my clutch better come Monday or Tuesday like it's supposed to.

ahah i know what u mean i had to do mine couple months back and it sucked with the slipping clutch

[Clippersfan86]

Chris check my post about help installing a clutch. I'm putting off install until Saturday or Sunday due to late arrival of clutch kit so more of you probably will be free to stop by and eat some Pizza and help for an hour or 2. I'm going to keep the food coming all day lol. Probably Chinese food for everyone for lunch and Pizzas for dinner or something like that. Beer and soda too.

[Dewey]

I'm surprised your clutch is going out. You drive an '06. I sold my '02 with 75k on it still on the stock clutch. So, unless you drive it inappropriately or someone else has, it shouldn't go out as quickly as it has.

[Clippersfan86]

Originally Posted by Dewey

I'm surprised your clutch is going out. You drive an '06. I sold my '02 with 75k on it still on the stock clutch. So, unless you drive it inappropriately or someone else has, it shouldn't go out as quickly as it has.

I got the car only 2.5k miles ago. The 06 puts down more power and from what i've seen around Subaru forums they do burn up clutches quicker than 02-05's. Before I heat soaked one of my dyno runs was over 200 torque stock and we are at elevation. Cobb dyno showed 30 tq and 15-20 hp increase in the 2.5l also. A 2.0L wrx would be lucky to have 170 or 180 torque. That extra 20-30 TQ at the wheels adds up. Tranny for 05 and up is reinforced a little but I believe the clutches from 02-06 were the same.

Btw Chris it's Michael. I got struts done by your buddy when I worked at Galena market.