is this a good buy for a 02' wrx?

[bmxstreetrider666]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...58293&rd=1

[Nick Koan]

I'd say too good to be true.

[MattR]

Originally Posted by bmxstreetrider666

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31868&item =4523258293&rd=1

yeah, actually, that might be a pretty good find...Salvage title will allow for a pretty low price, and if it ws truly all cosmetic, then you should be fine...

[MattR]

Originally Posted by nKoan

I'd say too good to be true.

I'm still not sold on buying a car on ebay...just too scetchy for me...

[JC]

Originally Posted by nKoan

I'd say too good to be true.

Its got 6 days left and a salvage title. I wouldn't buy a salvage title car, but if you want to, go for it. You should be able to find a nice clean title WRX for $13k.

[MikeSTI]

I would say yes if you could get it for under 5000, but with 6 day left and a salvaged title I would be carefull. He will likely start having friends bid on it to get the price up to 10 - 12k by the end

[sperry]

Originally Posted by bmxstreetrider666

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31868&item =4523258293&rd=1

Well, a no reserve WRX could be a great buy, but I'm always hesitant about buying cars on eBay.

Also.. a Cold Air Intake will not make that car into a "235hp" car. In fact, on an otherwise stock car, a CAI will *lose* horsepower, since the intake will lean our the Air/Fuel ratio, and cause knock, so the ECU will have to retard the timing to keep the motor from blowing up, which results in less power.

I would think that if you could pick it up for under $10k, you're doing pretty well, but remember, it has a salvage title, which severly limits your re-sale options. If you're buying this as a project/race car, then you're in good shape. If you're planning on driving it for a bit then selling it, I'd stay away.

[MikeSTI]

wow everyone got on that quick :shock:

maybe we should pull a few sorces for the new guy if we seeing any while out whoring today

[JC]

Originally Posted by MikeSTI

wow everyone got on that quick :shock:

maybe we should pull a few sorces for the new guy if we seeing any while out whoring today

He can get one from my friend's dealer if he is ready to buy.

[bmxstreetrider666]

wow i dident expect that man replys so fast! but i am going to keep a heavy watch on this on just in case. i could always find a stock intake somewhere.

[MikeSTI]

you might want to look here to do some research on what poeple are selling and what to expect to pay:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=89

[bmxstreetrider666]

sweet, thanks mike.

[AtomicLabMonkey]

Originally Posted by sperry

Also.. a Cold Air Intake will not make that car into a "235hp" car. In fact, on an otherwise stock car, a CAI will *lose* horsepower, since the intake will lean our the Air/Fuel ratio, and cause knock, so the ECU will have to retard the timing to keep the motor from blowing up, which results in less power.

This doesn't make sense to me. Why wouldn't the computer just add fuel to keep the mixture at the targeted AFR with any increased airflow? They have air meters in the intake tract, right? Are the injectors already maxed out at 227hp or something?

[Dean]

Matt is right, under 10K is about right.

Do you know anyone in So-Cal who could check it out.

I read tons of ebay ads, and I would wager this one is ligit. Call and discuss the car with him. The fact that there is a phone number, and offer for test drive/viewing makes it a strong bet.

Also, as mentioned, if you plan to own it for at least 3-5 years or longer, the salvage title doesn't mean much, but if you plan to turn it in 12-24 months, you might be hard pressed to get your money back out.

My red '02 is a salvage car, but it was bought for the purpose of being mostly dedicated to Autocross/track, and with the full understanding of the value issue.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

This doesn't make sense to me. Why wouldn't the computer just add fuel to keep the mixture at the targeted AFR with any increased airflow? They have air meters in the intake tract, right? Are the injectors already maxed out at 227hp or something?

The ECU's uses both MAF and MAP, however, the CAI's just flow too much throught the MAF w/o the MAF voltage changing properly. Up here at Reno altitude, it's not a big issue, since we've got less O2... but in SoCal, where that car's from, it's probably pretty bad.

Essentially, you have to have engine management tuned for the CAI, or it's bad for the car.

[bmxstreetrider666]

yeah i know some people in santa cruz that i could probablly have check it out for me... but then again i am going to chico today, any one know how far chico is from moreno valley?

[bmxstreetrider666]

you might want to look here to do some research on what poeple are selling and what to expect to pay:


ive been looking around and almost everyone thats withen a resonable distance is modded to oblivion!

[Dean]

The car is actually down near LA. Riverside/Moreno Valley is about an hour inland from the coast. If you bought it, you would fly into Ontario and have a 1/2 hour drive or so further east, though I'm sure they would pick you up. Add $99 to your budget for a Southwest ticket if you are serious about it.

[bmxstreetrider666]

im calling him right now

[AtomicLabMonkey]

Originally Posted by sperry

The ECU's uses both MAF and MAP, however, the CAI's just flow too much throught the MAF w/o the MAF voltage changing properly. Up here at Reno altitude, it's not a big issue, since we've got less O2... but in SoCal, where that car's from, it's probably pretty bad.

Is it a problem with the stock MAF transfer function, like it just doesn't go up high enough for the ECU to interpolate accurately once you've changed the intake tubing? Or does the Subaru MAF hardware just give an inaccurate signal past the factory specified range? Either way, that's just strange to me. You can pretty much change the entire exhaust, intake piping, manifolds, etc. on a Mustang and the computer will compensate for it with the stock meter, as long as the injectors aren't maxed out. Just replacing the intake piping in front of the meter is a very small change to whack out the computer that bad...

[MikeSTI]

hehe might want to look at a place like Auto Trader next now that you know what some off the mods are

cliky.

[bmxstreetrider666]

i just talked to him about the car he said when it was wrecked it was just cosmetic down the whole driverside of the car but is clean now. Unfortunatally he did not know much about the car running lean but did know that it does not knock or make any unusual noises.

[MikeSTI]

did you ask him what he was wanting for it?

[bmxstreetrider666]

yea he said he was not expecting to get any more than $10K for it

there is also one at norms auto on s. virgina that i might be able to get a good deal on, also has a clean title

[bmxstreetrider666]

autotrader rocks