GT4 Challenge - Page 37 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

cody · 2006-03-22, 10:44 AM

Yah, but it was all messed up on Colin. I'm 99% sure that the displays that represent brake and gas pedal application in GT4 move independently for me.

I know trail braking definately works for me.

sperry · 2006-03-22, 10:45 AM

I use the Logitech Driving Force Pro on my PS2, and I left foot brake a ton in GT4.

That lap was quick simply because I was able to keep my speed up pretty well in all the corners (especially the left-hander under the bridge onto the back straight). However, my line could have been improved upon in all the corners (especially the left-hander under the bridge onto the back straight). I ran a few more laps to see if I could best my time, and I think I was able to go through each corner faster than the ghost, but just not all on the same lap. I even had one where I was ahead into the final corner, but then got passed by the ghost right before the finish line (+0.002)

.

Anyway, let me know if there are issues w/ the next challenge. The car is very "point and shoot" and easy to drive, except for it's ability to break traction easily on hard acceleration... since a lot of the corners at Monaco are very tight, keep in mind that short shifting for traction is probably a good idea in some spots.

That Lister is a howling banshee too.

cody · 2006-03-22, 10:48 AM

^^^
That car looks sweet.

sperry · 2006-03-22, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

Yah, but it was all messed up on Colin. I'm 99% sure that the displays that represent brake and gas pedal application in GT4 move independently for me.

I know trail braking definately works for me.

Trail braking != left foot braking. Although both techniques benefit from each other.

Left foot braking is simply using your left foot to brake with so you can simultaniously apply throttle. Trail braking is braking during/after turn-in to a corner, and can be very difficult/risky (at least in real life) because it's very easy to ask for too much from the tires to have the car turn and brake at the same time... i.e. you go for a nice spin.

Here's a cool write-up on trail braking, though it doesn't really talk too much about how to do it: http://www.getfaster.com/Techtips/Physics23.html

cody · 2006-03-22, 11:56 AM

Aw, my bad. I thought trail braking was keeping some small degree of brake applied while accelerating out of the corner.

cody · 2006-03-22, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Here's a cool write-up on trail braking, though it doesn't really talk too much about how to do it: http://www.getfaster.com/Techtips/Physics23.html

Aw, so it's steering and braking overlap going into a turn. Not throttle and brake overlap coming out. I see.

Kevin M · 2006-03-22, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

Aw, my bad. I thought trail braking was keeping some small degree of brake applied while accelerating out of the corner.

I don't think that could possibly make a car turn faster laps.

sperry · 2006-03-22, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

I don't think that could possibly make a car turn faster laps.

Maybe, just maybe, if it was for traction control.

cody · 2006-03-22, 01:15 PM

I don't usually do it, but the M3 would plow sometimes and it seemed to help get the ass end around.

EQ Tuning · 2006-03-23, 10:38 PM

That car is quite a handful.... best I can do so far is a 1:30.450

Still need lots of practice.

sperry · 2006-03-23, 11:03 PM

Here's my best lap this evening..

cody · 2006-03-23, 11:32 PM

1st post updated.

No wall riding added to rules.

EQ Tuning · 2006-03-23, 11:45 PM

Damn Sperry.... Its gonna take me a while to catch you!

zpeed · 2006-03-24, 06:41 AM

I got 1'24.994 Wednesday night and there are many turns to get faster. Last night I can't get under 1'24 damn.

sperry · 2006-03-24, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zpeed

I got 1'24.994 Wednesday night and there are many turns to get faster. Last night I can't get under 1'24 damn.

Yeah, 1'23's are certainly possible, and I think if you're ever able to take the big risks and really cut close to the walls w/o hitting them for a whole lap, 1'22's are a possibility.

Bob Danger · 2006-03-26, 11:31 PM

How do you get the pictures you've taken on GT4 to your computer? Do I need to buy so stupid internet attachment?

sperry · 2006-03-26, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Danger

How do you get the pictures you've taken on GT4 to your computer? Do I need to buy so stupid internet attachment?

Well, you can just use a digital camera and take a picture of the TV and attach it to the board. Or you can grab a TV capture card and capture stills and video of the laps, but that's bordering on overkill.

zpeed · 2006-03-27, 12:44 PM

Something wrong now I can't get under 25 ??

sperry · 2006-03-27, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zpeed

Something wrong now I can't get under 25 ??

Did you forget to bump the power, and lower the weight?

zpeed · 2006-03-28, 07:32 PM

1'24.000 finally

cody · 2006-03-28, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zpeed

1'24.000 finally

Nice! Just make sure to get a screenshot up before 11:30.

sperry · 2006-03-28, 10:53 PM

Well, I still haven't run a totally clean lap... little mistakes are hard to avoid, simply because I'm too chickenshit once I've got a good 1st sector to really push it for the next two.

But, I'm shaving off a little here and there.

sperry · 2006-03-28, 11:05 PM

Okay, that was a pretty good lap.

sperry · 2006-03-28, 11:41 PM

The in-car video from the above lap.

zpeed · 2006-03-29, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

Nice! Just make sure to get a screenshot up before 11:30.

I dont't worry about that because I know Sperry will do better, and he did.

2006-03-22, 10:45 AM	#902
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	I use the Logitech Driving Force Pro on my PS2, and I left foot brake a ton in GT4. That lap was quick simply because I was able to keep my speed up pretty well in all the corners (especially the left-hander under the bridge onto the back straight). However, my line could have been improved upon in all the corners (especially the left-hander under the bridge onto the back straight). I ran a few more laps to see if I could best my time, and I think I was able to go through each corner faster than the ghost, but just not all on the same lap. I even had one where I was ahead into the final corner, but then got passed by the ghost right before the finish line (+0.002) . Anyway, let me know if there are issues w/ the next challenge. The car is very "point and shoot" and easy to drive, except for it's ability to break traction easily on hard acceleration... since a lot of the corners at Monaco are very tight, keep in mind that short shifting for traction is probably a good idea in some spots. That Lister is a howling banshee too. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-03-23, 11:03 PM	#911
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Here's my best lap this evening.. Attached Images __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-03-26, 11:31 PM	#916
Bob Danger Tape Terrorist Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Melmac Posts: 1,792 Car: ? Class: Retired! Warning: Prolonged eye contact may cause insanity	How do you get the pictures you've taken on GT4 to your computer? Do I need to buy so stupid internet attachment? __________________ A fronte praecipitium a tergo lupi.

2006-03-28, 10:53 PM	#922
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Well, I still haven't run a totally clean lap... little mistakes are hard to avoid, simply because I'm too chickenshit once I've got a good 1st sector to really push it for the next two. But, I'm shaving off a little here and there. Attached Images __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-03-28, 11:05 PM	#923
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Okay, that was a pretty good lap. Attached Images __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-03-22, 10:44 AM	#901
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Yah, but it was all messed up on Colin. I'm 99% sure that the displays that represent brake and gas pedal application in GT4 move independently for me. I know trail braking definately works for me.

2006-03-22, 10:48 AM	#903
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	^^^ That car looks sweet.

2006-03-22, 11:56 AM	#905
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Aw, my bad. I thought trail braking was keeping some small degree of brake applied while accelerating out of the corner.

2006-03-22, 01:15 PM	#909
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I don't usually do it, but the M3 would plow sometimes and it seemed to help get the ass end around.

2006-03-23, 10:38 PM	#910
EQ Tuning EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 132	That car is quite a handful.... best I can do so far is a 1:30.450 Still need lots of practice.

2006-03-23, 11:32 PM	#912
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	1st post updated. No wall riding added to rules.

2006-03-23, 11:45 PM	#913
EQ Tuning EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 132	Damn Sperry.... Its gonna take me a while to catch you!

2006-03-24, 06:41 AM	#914
zpeed EJ251 Real Name: Nat S Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno, NV USA Posts: 743 Car: 06 S2000 Class: RNP & PDX	I got 1'24.994 Wednesday night and there are many turns to get faster. Last night I can't get under 1'24 damn.

2006-03-27, 12:44 PM	#918
zpeed EJ251 Real Name: Nat S Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno, NV USA Posts: 743 Car: 06 S2000 Class: RNP & PDX	Something wrong now I can't get under 25 ??

2006-03-28, 07:32 PM	#920
zpeed EJ251 Real Name: Nat S Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno, NV USA Posts: 743 Car: 06 S2000 Class: RNP & PDX	1'24.000 finally

2006-03-28, 11:41 PM	#924
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	The in-car video from the above lap. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

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