Cordless Impact Deal $55 Pep Boys Thurs. 0700-1100 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Dean · 2007-03-20, 10:43 AM

Something like this is a must if you are changing rims remotely often...

OK, it is $59 after rebates, but guess what, there is another $5 coupon.

$5 Coupon:
http://www.pepboysemaillist.com/inde...nStartDownload

Big Ad:
http://pepboys.shoplocal.com/pepboys...7&pagenumber=1

Here is the actual item: http://pepboys.shoplocal.com/pepboys...pagenumber%3d1

I think Matt has one of these. A couple of my Audi buddys like theirs.

MikeK · 2007-03-20, 10:56 AM

I got one of these last time they were cheap, and I don't recommend it. It is too weak to break lug nuts loose. I returned the first one I got for a replacement because of this, but the second one was the same. Save your money.

Dean · 2007-03-20, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

It is too weak to break lug nuts loose. I returned the first one I got for a replacement because of this, but the second one was the same. Save your money.

Weird. I know a couple people who have them and they work fine even on Audi lugs which are typically torqued to 95-100 ft/lbs.

Kevin M · 2007-03-20, 11:07 AM

cordless drill + breaker bar + torque wrench > cordless impact.

MPREZIV · 2007-03-20, 11:24 AM

Lift+impact gun+torque wrench...

Kevin M · 2007-03-20, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Lift+impact gun+torque wrench...

...are very useful at Stead, Squaw, Lovelock and Hawthorne.

MPREZIV · 2007-03-20, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

...are very useful at Stead, Squaw, Lovelock and Hawthorne.

Yeah, well... SHUTUP!!!

dknv · 2007-03-20, 02:56 PM

I have one of these, I may go back and get another - thanks for posting it (along with the coupon link) Dean.

I have the RX8 lugs torqued to 100+ ft/lbs and as long as it is charged, I have no problem with it. We have used different fittings however (using the SSR lugs).

My only problem with it has been the bolt getting stuck on the wrench.

Now, on the other hand, we were just down in San Diego for the NT, and broke another Harbor Freight jack, arrgh! One of our paddock neighbors told us about a good trick though -- with the last one he bought, he also bought a $20 warranty, good for 2 years. When his inevitably broke - he just took it in and got another (along with another $20 warranty).

Kevin M · 2007-03-20, 03:03 PM

The warranty the offered me on mine was like $60, so I passed.

Dean · 2007-03-20, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dknv

My only problem with it has been the bolt getting stuck on the wrench.

That is the socket, not the gun. The base of your lugs are likely tapered and get stuck. Some lug specific sockets have a relief for these.

You are welcome to try one of my HF deep thin walled lug sockets.

Or just don't quite push the socket all the way down...

sperry · 2007-03-20, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

That is the socket, not the gun. The base of your lugs are likely tapered and get stuck. Some lug specific sockets have a relief for these.

You are welcome to try one of my HF deep thin walled lug sockets.

Or just don't quite push the socket all the way down...

The only think HF impact sockets are good for are fishing weights.

MattR · 2007-03-20, 05:59 PM

I have that Cordless impact, it works well, and torques bolts to about 76lbs. The trick to getting lugs loose is giving the socket a twist with your hand, and that usually helps it get started. I love mine.

ScottyS · 2007-03-21, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

The only think HF impact sockets are good for are fishing weights.

Don't know about impact use, but with hand tools they're OK (at least the lot I got is). Had to use a 4ft cheater off one of my Handyman jacks on top of the 2ft breaker bar to get my port side cam pulley loose......socket no fail.

Dean · 2007-03-21, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MattR

The trick to getting lugs loose is giving the socket a twist with your hand, and that usually helps it get started. I love mine.

This is due to the very short hammer throw on the electric impacts. Slop of any form will eat up that throw. This is why you can't use extensions, universals, etc.

A nice correctly sized 6 sided socket works best. And holding the socket tight in the direction of rotation allows the full hammer throw to be applied.

sperry · 2007-03-21, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottyS

Don't know about impact use, but with hand tools they're OK (at least the lot I got is). Had to use a 4ft cheater off one of my Handyman jacks on top of the 2ft breaker bar to get my port side cam pulley loose......socket no fail.

I failed a 19mm HF impact socket with a standard length 1/4" drive socket wrench trying to take off a strut/knuckle bolt. I'm glad it wasn't on my impact or instead of cracking the socket I may have exploded it.

sperry · 2007-03-21, 08:42 AM

Also, I'm not a huge fan of the "cheap" cordless impacts, but I've used MattR's and it gets the job done well enough that'd I consider one for "light duty" work, i.e. changing wheels at the track. At this price I might just pick one up for the pit box.

MPREZIV · 2007-03-21, 10:15 AM

HF tools are crap, if you put ANY kind of severe duty to them. I've broken those things, by hand, with a 6" 3/8 drive ratchet. I would rather pay 6x as much for a set of sockets, to have the piece of mind that comes with knowing they're not going to explode in my face as Scott mentioned...

sperry · 2007-03-21, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

HF tools are crap, if you put ANY kind of severe duty to them. I've broken those things, by hand, with a 6" 3/8 drive ratchet. I would rather pay 6x as much for a set of sockets, to have the piece of mind that comes with knowing they're not going to explode in my face as Scott mentioned...

I stopped buying HF stuff... the deals there are too good to be true. You get what you pay for with those.

Dean · 2007-03-21, 10:48 AM

Garage Core tools = Craftsman. Track box that might grow legs... HF.

Occasional use or specialty = HF, or wherever I can find it.

ScottyS · 2007-03-22, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

HF tools are crap, if you put ANY kind of severe duty to them. I've broken those things, by hand, with a 6" 3/8 drive ratchet. I would rather pay 6x as much for a set of sockets, to have the piece of mind that comes with knowing they're not going to explode in my face as Scott mentioned...

Yah, if you can afford and need impact, then you can afford the good socket tools too. If I had to use my tools every day, I'd have the best as well.

All I'm saying is that I have yet to break a HF socket (their top-end ones) by hand, and I've hammered on them pretty good at times. HF allows me to keep on hand a wide variety of sizes. My ratchets are S&K, though.

Just like Radio Shack, 95% of the stuff is crap. Proper application of certain items is totally worth it though. I can have a separate mini-plier set in my RC box, shooting box, tool box and reloading bench, and not pay very much at all. They do a fine job for my apps. That also goes for quite a few other tools. I also like my $25 6" grinder that I use 10 times a year, doesn't get hot, and takes like 5 min to spin down. The $100 floor drill press that I only need a couple times a year does a fine job as well.

The rifle scopes that I will use up to 50 times a year don't cost $100, though. I can only compromise in so many places......

MPREZIV · 2007-03-22, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottyS

The rifle scopes that I will use up to 50 times a year don't cost $100, though. I can only compromise in so many places......

Exactly, but I use my sockets 50 times a DAY!

Dean · 2007-03-22, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Exactly, but I use my sockets 50 times a DAY!

If I had your job, I'd have very high quality stuff, but probably as important as quality I bet is the warranty and speed of replacement in the event of a failure...

Thus the existence of Snap-On, Mac, etc. tool trucks...

Right?

MPREZIV · 2007-03-22, 11:16 AM

Exactly! Having a tool guy that stands behind the product is just as important though. If you have a Snap-on guy like I do, who doesn't want to do ANYTHING to help you, all that quality means nothing in the event that you do break something. My Mac guy, on the other hand, will give me a loaner tool if I have to send something out for repair, just so I'm not without the tool for a week. Makes a big difference when I'm deciding what to buy, and from whom.

2007-03-20, 10:43 AM	#1
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Cordless Impact Deal $55 Pep Boys Thurs. 0700-1100 Something like this is a must if you are changing rims remotely often... OK, it is $59 after rebates, but guess what, there is another $5 coupon. $5 Coupon: http://www.pepboysemaillist.com/inde...nStartDownload Big Ad: http://pepboys.shoplocal.com/pepboys...7&pagenumber=1 Here is the actual item: http://pepboys.shoplocal.com/pepboys...pagenumber%3d1 I think Matt has one of these. A couple of my Audi buddys like theirs. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2007-03-20, 11:07 AM	#4
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	cordless drill + breaker bar + torque wrench > cordless impact. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-03-20, 11:24 AM	#5
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Lift+impact gun+torque wrench... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-03-20, 03:03 PM	#9
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	The warranty the offered me on mine was like $60, so I passed. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2007-03-20, 05:59 PM	#12
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	I have that Cordless impact, it works well, and torques bolts to about 76lbs. The trick to getting lugs loose is giving the socket a twist with your hand, and that usually helps it get started. I love mine. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2007-03-20, 10:56 AM	#2
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	I got one of these last time they were cheap, and I don't recommend it. It is too weak to break lug nuts loose. I returned the first one I got for a replacement because of this, but the second one was the same. Save your money.

2007-03-20, 02:56 PM	#8
dknv EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 39n53, 119w90 Posts: 2,698 Car: RX-8 Class: CS maybe	I have one of these, I may go back and get another - thanks for posting it (along with the coupon link) Dean. I have the RX8 lugs torqued to 100+ ft/lbs and as long as it is charged, I have no problem with it. We have used different fittings however (using the SSR lugs). My only problem with it has been the bolt getting stuck on the wrench. Now, on the other hand, we were just down in San Diego for the NT, and broke another Harbor Freight jack, arrgh! One of our paddock neighbors told us about a good trick though -- with the last one he bought, he also bought a $20 warranty, good for 2 years. When his inevitably broke - he just took it in and got another (along with another $20 warranty).

2007-03-21, 08:42 AM	#16
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Also, I'm not a huge fan of the "cheap" cordless impacts, but I've used MattR's and it gets the job done well enough that'd I consider one for "light duty" work, i.e. changing wheels at the track. At this price I might just pick one up for the pit box. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2007-03-21, 10:15 AM	#17
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	HF tools are crap, if you put ANY kind of severe duty to them. I've broken those things, by hand, with a 6" 3/8 drive ratchet. I would rather pay 6x as much for a set of sockets, to have the piece of mind that comes with knowing they're not going to explode in my face as Scott mentioned... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2007-03-21, 10:48 AM	#19
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Garage Core tools = Craftsman. Track box that might grow legs... HF. Occasional use or specialty = HF, or wherever I can find it. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2007-03-22, 11:16 AM	#23
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Exactly! Having a tool guy that stands behind the product is just as important though. If you have a Snap-on guy like I do, who doesn't want to do ANYTHING to help you, all that quality means nothing in the event that you do break something. My Mac guy, on the other hand, will give me a loaner tool if I have to send something out for repair, just so I'm not without the tool for a week. Makes a big difference when I'm deciding what to buy, and from whom. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

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