Autocross at Lovelock, Labor Day weekend - Page 2 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

MattR · 2004-09-01, 08:27 AM

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I think STX is only eligible for STX, not Open Street Tire class. Maybe that doesn't matter?

We're checking to see if the car is NESP legal, looks like it was until the new brakes go on tomorrow...So I will run the car in NSM.

Are you sure the brakes are illegal in ESP? I thought street prepared allowed brakes as long as they bolt on to the stock location, whereas STX said "brakes are unlimited" (until recently when they outlawed carbon brakes).

You are right! I was mistaken...From what I can tell...your firing breathing awesome mobile is NESP legal...cool.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-09-01, 08:54 AM

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14.6 Brakes
Any brake line, single or dual master cylinder, vacuum brake booster, brake proportioning valves may be used. This does not allow multiple separate cylinders, but does allow for any single, dual-circuit cylinder. "Safety breakers" and units such as the "Brake Guard System" are permitted. ABS braking systems may be disabled, but not removed; brake boosters may be removed or added. Air ducts may be fitted to the brakes, provided that they extend in a forward direction only, and that no changes are made in the body/structure for their use. They may serve no other purpose. Backing plates and dirt shields may be modified or removed.

MattR · 2004-09-01, 09:15 AM

Thanks Austin.

Hey Scott, I was thinking, why don;t you run in NESP next year instead of street mod? It's kind of a cheater class if you ask me...

Dean · 2004-09-01, 09:22 AM

No Boost Mods allowed in SP...

MattR · 2004-09-01, 09:30 AM

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No Boost Mods allowed in SP...

You can run the stoc map and be okay just like STX, right?

Dean · 2004-09-01, 09:31 AM

Yes, but I thought one of Scott's desires was for more boost, thus SM.

sperry · 2004-09-01, 09:38 AM

Dean's right, I'm looking for a class that will allow me to up my boost, and swap the turbo/IC. At least in NESP I can instally those IC hoses I've got.

On the other hand, running in ESP w/ race tires might be a blast! But then I'd get beat up on by Lucas instead of Dean.

At least I could try to represent for the Suby crowd against all those F-Body and 'Stang guys!

Those ESP rules regarding brakes: where does it say you can replace the rotors and calipers? I see a lot of stuff about lines, etc, but can I toss a BBK on there or not?

Dean · 2004-09-01, 10:01 AM

Nope...

Part B. of 15.6

Cross-drilled and/or slotted brake rotors may be used, provided the
replacement rotors have the same dimensions as standard rotors
and are of a standard-type construction and of ferrous metallic
material. This does not permit the use of a two-piece hat/rotor
assembly unless the standard configuration is two-piece.

___________
It makes no mention of calipers, so no changes allowed... This is one of the reasons I moved from BSP to SM in the Stealth.

qksubi · 2004-09-02, 06:46 AM

Im out

My work put out a notice that they have a shortage of engineers in the sparks/roseville/sac. area and is blocking personal time off for the holiday unless I have a Dr's note. So I will not be attending lovelock but I will honk the horn as i go by on the train! good luck to everyone and have fun

MattR · 2004-09-02, 08:34 AM

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Im out

My work put out a notice that they have a shortage of engineers in the sparks/roseville/sac. area and is blocking personal time off for the holiday unless I have a Dr's note. So I will not be attending lovelock but I will honk the horn as i go by on the train! good luck to everyone and have fun

Damn...Oh well, its a positive change as far as $$$$ goes...Make sure you wake me up at the hotel as you blast by

dknv · 2004-09-02, 10:17 AM

Darn! We'll miss you out there.

Eric, I think you have 7 events this year (of 9 needed for trophy). Hopefully you can make both days in October.

2004-09-01, 09:15 AM	#28
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Thanks Austin. Hey Scott, I was thinking, why don;t you run in NESP next year instead of street mod? It's kind of a cheater class if you ask me... __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-09-01, 09:22 AM	#29
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	No Boost Mods allowed in SP... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-09-01, 09:31 AM	#31
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Yes, but I thought one of Scott's desires was for more boost, thus SM. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-09-01, 09:38 AM	#32
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Dean's right, I'm looking for a class that will allow me to up my boost, and swap the turbo/IC. At least in NESP I can instally those IC hoses I've got. On the other hand, running in ESP w/ race tires might be a blast! But then I'd get beat up on by Lucas instead of Dean. At least I could try to represent for the Suby crowd against all those F-Body and 'Stang guys! Those ESP rules regarding brakes: where does it say you can replace the rotors and calipers? I see a lot of stuff about lines, etc, but can I toss a BBK on there or not? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2004-09-01, 10:01 AM	#33
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Nope... Part B. of 15.6 Cross-drilled and/or slotted brake rotors may be used, provided the replacement rotors have the same dimensions as standard rotors and are of a standard-type construction and of ferrous metallic material. This does not permit the use of a two-piece hat/rotor assembly unless the standard configuration is two-piece. ___________ It makes no mention of calipers, so no changes allowed... This is one of the reasons I moved from BSP to SM in the Stealth. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-09-02, 06:46 AM	#34
qksubi Assault Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 996 Car: 13 Sti Hatch Satin white Class: TBSP/TT-2 Aim for the EYES!	Cant get the time off! Im out My work put out a notice that they have a shortage of engineers in the sparks/roseville/sac. area and is blocking personal time off for the holiday unless I have a Dr's note. So I will not be attending lovelock but I will honk the horn as i go by on the train! good luck to everyone and have fun

2004-09-02, 10:17 AM	#36
dknv EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 39n53, 119w90 Posts: 2,698 Car: RX-8 Class: CS maybe	Darn! We'll miss you out there. Eric, I think you have 7 events this year (of 9 needed for trophy). Hopefully you can make both days in October.

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