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NevadaSTi · 2005-07-13, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tysonK

why won't this vid work for me.

Yeah, me too. It crashed my FireFox.......

Nick Koan · 2005-07-13, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NevadaSTi

Yeah, me too. It crashed my FireFox.......

Right click, save as...

Should be good to go. I clicked on it too, but for some reason the Firefox extension handler didn't work properly, and it ruined my browser.

tysonK · 2005-07-13, 06:16 PM

when I do right click saving option it saves it as a text document!

Nick Koan · 2005-07-13, 06:24 PM

change the extension to .wmv and have at it.

qksubi · 2005-07-14, 06:45 AM

A rear sway bar and tire pressure check would help the WR1 plus I have had a EVO I still think the gear box is shit oh yeah mike your actual car would kill that car so dont fell bad

Evo Mike · 2005-07-14, 04:15 PM

actually, the gear box/transmission is good on the evo.. it's very strong and durable. however it's not quite as smooth as the STi.. well not quite is an understatment.. it really blows ass compared to the feel of the wrx/Sti tranny's. the clutch on the other hand.. sucks balls.. and thats a 2000 dollar mod... haha

i'ts been 2 months since i've driven the evo.. i'm beginning to think my 91 integra is fast! woo hooooo

Dean · 2005-07-14, 04:47 PM

Do you need somebody to car sit? I'm sure one of us would be willing to "start it up" now and again as needed or not...

tysonK · 2005-07-14, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

Do you need somebody to car sit? I'm sure one of us would be willing to "start it up" now and again as needed or not...

I'd be willing to auto-x it!

Dean · 2005-07-14, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tysonK

I'd be willing to auto-x it!

Ssssshhhhh

sp00ln · 2005-07-14, 08:17 PM

Why the hell arnt you driving your evo?! Are you in Hawaii?

Evo > Sti - period.

Kevin M · 2005-07-15, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sp00ln

Why the hell arnt you driving your evo?! Are you in Hawaii?

Evo > Sti - period.

You've owned neither. The ony member of the board to have owned both kept his STi. Hmmm....

sperry · 2005-07-15, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

You've owned neither. The ony member of the board to have owned both kept his STi. Hmmm....

That's only 'cause his wife made him sell it.

I think what the video demonstrates, once again, is that the EVO is the better handling car out of the box than the STi. The Subaru is just plagued by a pushy factory setup, probably due to safety concerns. I'd bet a factory EVO vs. a factory STi + rear swaybar would be damn near identicle... but stock-for-stock, the EVO's gonna be faster on a course w/ turns.

Dean · 2005-07-15, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

but stock-for-stock, the EVO's gonna be faster on a course w/ turns.

There are other kinds of courses? Why?

sti deede · 2005-07-15, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

You've owned neither. The only member of the board to have owned both kept his STi. Hmmm....

What are you talking about Dustin owns both an STi and an EVO MR.

sperry · 2005-07-15, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sti deede

What are you talking about Dustin owns both an STi and an EVO MR.

I thought he had a WRX and an EVO MR. I'm probably wrong, since I can keep up w/ all the members anymore.

qksubi · 2005-07-15, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

That's only 'cause his wife made him sell it.

I think what the video demonstrates, once again, is that the EVO is the better handling car out of the box than the STi. The Subaru is just plagued by a pushy factory setup, probably due to safety concerns. I'd bet a factory EVO vs. a factory STi + rear swaybar would be damn near identicle... but stock-for-stock, the EVO's gonna be faster on a course w/ turns.

That what I was saying

sti deede · 2005-07-15, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

I thought he had a WRX and an EVO MR. I'm probably wrong, since I can keep up w/ all the members anymore.

Nope he has a black 05 sti and the MR, not no mention a sweet ducati (think that is the brand bike)

sti deede · 2005-07-15, 10:14 AM

sergios has a WRX and a Evo, but not an MR.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2005-07-18, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

The Subaru is just plagued by a pushy factory setup, probably due to safety concerns. I'd bet a factory EVO vs. a factory STi + rear swaybar would be damn near identicle...

Most OEM's love to design roll understeer into their cars. Their corporate law departments can be thanked for that. Given no rules restrictions, I'd fix the bump- and compliance-steer on a car first before changing spring & bar rates. Otherwise, you're just reducing overall grip...

sperry · 2005-07-18, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

Most OEM's love to design roll understeer into their cars. Their corporate law departments can be thanked for that. Given no rules restrictions, I'd fix the bump- and compliance-steer on a car first before changing spring & bar rates. Otherwise, you're just reducing overall grip...

A rear swaybar is only gonna cost about $300-$400 (including endlinks and mounts) and takes about an hour to install, and makes the car a butt-load more neutral.

What would you suggest to do to the front-end to get the same effect at the same cost/simplicity? I can't think of anyway to gain front traction for so cheap. 'Cept for maybe trying to run some R-compounds up front that exactly match the RE070's diameter at the rear.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2005-07-18, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

What would you suggest to do to the front-end to get the same effect at the same cost/simplicity? I can't think of anyway to gain front traction for so cheap. 'Cept for maybe trying to run some R-compounds up front that exactly match the RE070's diameter at the rear.

Buy or make your own bolt/rod-end setup to replace the OE outer tie rods, and bumpsteer it to eliminate the toe-out-during-bump response that it probably has. After that I'd start replacing control arm/subframe bushings with a hard material like delrin...

cody · 2005-07-19, 10:56 AM

I'm not sure if this one is there, but there are tons of Top Gear videos posted on WRXF if your interested. I'll have to check this one out tonight to see if its the one I think it is.

http://www.wrxfanatics.com/index.php?showtopic=19611

2005-07-13, 06:16 PM	#28
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2005-07-13, 06:24 PM	#29
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2005-07-14, 04:15 PM	#31
Evo Mike EJ251 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 513	actually, the gear box/transmission is good on the evo.. it's very strong and durable. however it's not quite as smooth as the STi.. well not quite is an understatment.. it really blows ass compared to the feel of the wrx/Sti tranny's. the clutch on the other hand.. sucks balls.. and thats a 2000 dollar mod... haha i'ts been 2 months since i've driven the evo.. i'm beginning to think my 91 integra is fast! woo hooooo __________________ I Can't Believe My Friends.... Drive WRX's....

2005-07-14, 04:47 PM	#32
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Do you need somebody to car sit? I'm sure one of us would be willing to "start it up" now and again as needed or not... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2005-07-14, 08:17 PM	#35
sp00ln EJ205 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,196	Why the hell arnt you driving your evo?! Are you in Hawaii? Evo > Sti - period. __________________ Turbo is a decent with modification.

2005-07-14, 06:45 AM	#30
qksubi Assault Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 996 Car: 13 Sti Hatch Satin white Class: TBSP/TT-2 Aim for the EYES!	A rear sway bar and tire pressure check would help the WR1 plus I have had a EVO I still think the gear box is shit oh yeah mike your actual car would kill that car so dont fell bad

2005-07-15, 10:14 AM	#43
sti deede EJ205 Real Name: Deede Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 1,789 Car: '96 4runner Class: none.	sergios has a WRX and a Evo, but not an MR.

2005-07-19, 10:56 AM	#47
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I'm not sure if this one is there, but there are tons of Top Gear videos posted on WRXF if your interested. I'll have to check this one out tonight to see if its the one I think it is. http://www.wrxfanatics.com/index.php?showtopic=19611 __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

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