98 legacy outback ...REFLASH?? - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

kindjoe · 2004-11-14, 10:44 PM

hey I just got a 98 Legacy Outback with a NEW engine ...Probably will have a hard time competing with my chipped Audi but How can I chip or Reflash it to boost HP and MPG???

JC · 2004-11-14, 10:57 PM

You can't. Did you put a new stock engine from the same year in it? One of the guys on the board has a built N/A Outback.

kindjoe · 2004-11-14, 11:18 PM

it was a dealer warranty ...the engine blew right after i bought it...so yes its totally stock ...
no after market engine ecu mods at all....anywhere???

LetItRev · 2004-11-14, 11:20 PM

98's have a rich history of head gasket issues, leading to blown engines. I don't know if I would want to mod this year's engine at all. Mine made it to about 92,000 miles before it too developed head gasket problems. (98 Outback) I dumped it and bought a WRX!

JC · 2004-11-14, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kindjoe

it was a dealer warranty ...the engine blew right after i bought it...so yes its totally stock ...
no after market engine ecu mods at all....anywhere???

You could probably piggy back it. They might make a chip, but it's not worth it IMHO. Why do you want to?

LetItRev · 2004-11-14, 11:22 PM

What color is this car? Also, would you be interested in some OEM allow wheels with studded Nokian Hakkapallatta snow tires?

kindjoe · 2004-11-14, 11:24 PM

well i would want to for the joy of it and i got a great deal on the car with some $$$ left over in my budget....

the car is dark red with the std outback trim ....it is the 2.5L model

LetItRev · 2004-11-14, 11:26 PM

Wow...I was thinking that you perhaps bought my old car! LOL!!!

I have snow tires for that vehicle if you would like to check them out.

Let me know.

kindjoe · 2004-11-14, 11:27 PM

ohh it came with some great all season bridgestones ...but i have had excellent traction with Nokian Haks on my Audi

kindjoe · 2004-11-14, 11:28 PM

actually i did buy it in Reno ....

I will keep the snow tires in mind if these all seasons end up...to be less than i need

JC · 2004-11-14, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kindjoe

well i would want to for the joy of it and i got a great deal on the car with some $$$ left over in my budget....

Well if you have money there is always somewhere to spend it, ECU just isn't the right spot on a stock car.

kindjoe · 2004-11-14, 11:34 PM

so after new shocks ...and cross drilled rotors ...would it be worthy???

JC · 2004-11-14, 11:39 PM

Well first don't buy cross-drilled rotors. Exhaust and intake will give better gains than a chip, AFAIK you can use an SAFC on your car to compensate fuel wise.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-11-14, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kindjoe

so after new shocks ...and cross drilled rotors ...would it be worthy???

ArthurS · 2004-11-15, 12:39 AM

Here are some good products to think about:

http://cobbtuning.com/legacy/

Nick Koan · 2004-11-15, 06:28 AM

I'm pretty sure there is a piggyback chip out there for the 2.5RS/Legacy. It'll give you 10hp and load less reliability IIRC.

Honestly, though, I'd rather do Cobb intake, headers, exhaust then the piggyback chip.

Kevin M · 2004-11-15, 10:20 AM

ECU mods are unnecessary on NA Subarus, but bolt-ons give decent gains on EJ25s, enough to make a noticable difference. Headers and exhaust (skip the intake on your car) will make it feel torquier and give it some top end too.

JC · 2004-11-15, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

(skip the intake on your car)

No, if you adjust the fuel after you will see good gains.

kindjoe · 2004-11-17, 12:39 AM

Thanks gentlemen ....

I think that will give me something to chew on for a while ....

Ill post whatever happens!!! meanwhile ill be learning subaru snow behavior...

2004-11-14, 10:44 PM	#1
kindjoe n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	98 legacy outback ...REFLASH?? hey I just got a 98 Legacy Outback with a NEW engine ...Probably will have a hard time competing with my chipped Audi but How can I chip or Reflash it to boost HP and MPG???

2004-11-14, 10:57 PM	#2
JC Ask me about dubs! Real Name: JC Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 2,895 Car: 2013 Triumph Speed Triple R	You can't. Did you put a new stock engine from the same year in it? One of the guys on the board has a built N/A Outback. __________________ Actually, I am a rocket scientist.

2004-11-14, 11:18 PM	#3
kindjoe n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	it was a dealer warranty ...the engine blew right after i bought it...so yes its totally stock ... no after market engine ecu mods at all....anywhere??? __________________ drives 30 miles of dirt roads a day ....usually sideways

2004-11-14, 11:24 PM	#7
kindjoe n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	well i would want to for the joy of it and i got a great deal on the car with some $$$ left over in my budget.... the car is dark red with the std outback trim ....it is the 2.5L model __________________ drives 30 miles of dirt roads a day ....usually sideways

2004-11-14, 11:27 PM	#9
kindjoe n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	ohh it came with some great all season bridgestones ...but i have had excellent traction with Nokian Haks on my Audi __________________ drives 30 miles of dirt roads a day ....usually sideways

2004-11-14, 11:20 PM	#4
LetItRev R.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 501 Car: 2004 WRX	98's have a rich history of head gasket issues, leading to blown engines. I don't know if I would want to mod this year's engine at all. Mine made it to about 92,000 miles before it too developed head gasket problems. (98 Outback) I dumped it and bought a WRX!

2004-11-14, 11:22 PM	#6
LetItRev R.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 501 Car: 2004 WRX	What color is this car? Also, would you be interested in some OEM allow wheels with studded Nokian Hakkapallatta snow tires?

2004-11-14, 11:26 PM	#8
LetItRev R.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 501 Car: 2004 WRX	Wow...I was thinking that you perhaps bought my old car! LOL!!! I have snow tires for that vehicle if you would like to check them out. Let me know.

2004-11-14, 11:28 PM	#10
kindjoe n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	actually i did buy it in Reno .... I will keep the snow tires in mind if these all seasons end up...to be less than i need __________________ drives 30 miles of dirt roads a day ....usually sideways

2004-11-14, 11:34 PM	#12
kindjoe n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	so after new shocks ...and cross drilled rotors ...would it be worthy??? __________________ drives 30 miles of dirt roads a day ....usually sideways

2004-11-14, 11:39 PM	#13
JC Ask me about dubs! Real Name: JC Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 2,895 Car: 2013 Triumph Speed Triple R	Well first don't buy cross-drilled rotors. Exhaust and intake will give better gains than a chip, AFAIK you can use an SAFC on your car to compensate fuel wise. __________________ Actually, I am a rocket scientist.

2004-11-15, 12:39 AM	#15
ArthurS EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,707 Car: 2011 Chevy Battle Wagon	Here are some good products to think about: http://cobbtuning.com/legacy/ __________________ Captain Murphy: I dub thee Sir Phobos, Knight of Mars, beater of ass. Be a hitter, babe.

2004-11-15, 06:28 AM	#16
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	I'm pretty sure there is a piggyback chip out there for the 2.5RS/Legacy. It'll give you 10hp and load less reliability IIRC. Honestly, though, I'd rather do Cobb intake, headers, exhaust then the piggyback chip. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2004-11-15, 10:20 AM	#17
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	ECU mods are unnecessary on NA Subarus, but bolt-ons give decent gains on EJ25s, enough to make a noticable difference. Headers and exhaust (skip the intake on your car) will make it feel torquier and give it some top end too. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2004-11-17, 12:39 AM	#19
kindjoe n00b Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	Thanks gentlemen .... I think that will give me something to chew on for a while .... Ill post whatever happens!!! meanwhile ill be learning subaru snow behavior... __________________ drives 30 miles of dirt roads a day ....usually sideways

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