EVO envy

[doubleurx]

My brother just bought a modified EVO VIII with 9000 miles on Ebay for $10,000!

It was priced that way as a buy it now form someone that is leaving the country. He is purchasing it through one of ebay's secure payment arrangements in case it is a scam. Apparantly the car has already been checked and verified by Ebay's delivery service.

Now for the scary part: It apparantly was dyno tuned to over 400 whp. The car will be delivered to him a week from next monday. He pays $4000 up front to Ebay's secure pay and then pays the remaining amount on delivery.

We shall see what happens. I'll update when he gets the car.

[dknv]

What a Christmas present!!

[MikeSTI]

nice find!!!! :shock: any link to the E-bay pics?

[doubleurx]

Originally Posted by MikeSTI

nice find!!!! :shock: any link to the E-bay pics?

I asked for the same, but it already has been pulled. He may get some pics this week. According to the ebay delivery consultant (or whoever they are), the car is already in their hands. As soon as they receive the downpayment the car is shipped. He also said that he has 15 days with the car that he can decide to return or keep. If this is the case with buying through ebay, then that is awesome way to buy a car. When he actually gets delivery, I will believe it. Sounds too good to be true, but he swears that it is all legit. Heck I've spent 1/2 the cost of that car in the current mods on my car!

[tysonK]

Hopefully it was tuned well!

[Dean]

Originally Posted by doubleurx

My brother just bought a modified EVO VIII with 9000 miles on Ebay for $10,000!...
He pays $4000 up front to Ebay's secure pay and then pays the remaining amount on delivery.

I am not doubting you/him, but I spend quite a bit of time on ebay, and this sounds like it could be something to be very careful of. I suggest you discuss it further with him as it smells to good to be true, and some things sound wonky.

1. As far as I can tell, no Non-Salvage Evo has sold for under $18,9000 since 12/4. The only thing close is a very heavily damaged salvage one for $7,7000. Unless it was before then, then I do not beleive it happened on eBay as I do not beleive they remove any listings under 14 days old.

2. As far as I know, eBay does not have an escrow service, or a delivery service. The recomend escrow.com, and DAS auto shippers, but do not have ones of their own.

3. Even escrow.com requires 100% payment, and does not release the vehicle until they are received.

Hopefully it didn't start out as an auction that they then concluded off-line because then non of the ebay protections apply. I hope I am wrong, but this doesn't sound right.

[doubleurx]

Originally Posted by Dean

I am not doubting you/him, but I spend quite a bit of time on ebay, and this sounds like it could be something to be very careful of. I suggest you discuss it further with him as it smells to good to be true, and some things sound wonky.

1. As far as I can tell, no Non-Salvage Evo has sold for under $18,9000 since 12/4. The only thing close is a very heavily damaged salvage one for $7,7000. Unless it was before then, then I do not beleive it happened on eBay as I do not beleive they remove any listings under 14 days old.

2. As far as I know, eBay does not have an escrow service, or a delivery service. The recomend escrow.com, and DAS auto shippers, but do not have ones of their own.

3. Even escrow.com requires 100% payment, and does not release the vehicle until they are received.

Hopefully it didn't start out as an auction that they then concluded off-line because then non of the ebay protections apply. I hope I am wrong, but this doesn't sound right.

I agree with you Dean. I had the same discussion with him. I can't imagine he would be making it up. As to whether or not he is getting ripped off.........well that's why I said I will believe it when he recieves the car. It would be wonderful for him if it were true. I know he did call him directly to solidify the deal. As for the agency they are using, you are correct it is not ebay directly, but a service that they recommended. I'll try to find out more details. He did say that he does not pay the final amount until the car is delivered for his inspection.

I'll let you know as it unfolds. Pretty insane story though.

[doubleurx]

So far so good on the transaction according to my brother. I just don't see how is possible. At any rate, here's a link to the car and specs. It looks pretty amazing. Again, I'll believe it when I see the pic with my brother in the car.

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/412360

[sperry]

Originally Posted by doubleurx

So far so good on the transaction according to my brother. I just don't see how is possible. At any rate, here's a link to the car and specs. It looks pretty amazing. Again, I'll believe it when I see the pic with my brother in the car.

http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/412360

1st things 1st.... ditch the MBC and get at least a basic electronic boost controller. In fact, why doesn't a car w/ "standalone" engine management have an EBC built in?

I'd be mostly worried that your brother is buying a blown up car.

[MattR]

Uuugh! I hate that color

[doubleurx]

Originally Posted by sperry

1st things 1st.... ditch the MBC and get at least a basic electronic boost controller. In fact, why doesn't a car w/ "standalone" engine management have an EBC built in?

I'd be mostly worried that your brother is buying a blown up car.

Yes I agree, but even with a blown motor $10K seems too low (I agree with Dean) to be true. Check out his email address on the link. I would be nervous about any transaction with deciet@............ also, but my brother is a big boy and lives to far away to hear the negative side of the deal. For better or worse, he is sold, has sent a $4000 deposit through some insured service and is expecting delivery next Monday. I told him he needs to take a picture of him in the driver seat for me to believe it.

[doubleurx]

All I can say is "HOSED"

Sad to see my brother go through it, but he heard it from me and indirectly through most of you. He was insured for most of the downpayment (western union certified/insured deposit), but has to struggle through the mess with the local and federal authorities. Could be 3-6 months to recoup 80% of $4000. I suppose it could be worse.

Never go for the "too good to be true"!

Sorry to waste all of your time on this post.

[Dean]

No reason to appologize, it is a great lesson for all of us. If it sounds to good to be tue, it probably is... Very, very, very few people actualy get the $1 Porsche from the disgruntled wife, etc.

Anybody can put up a good official looking web site, and sound ligit... Protect yourself...

I am currently trying to recover about $8 from one of my eBay auctions, but as I paid through paypal, with a credit card, it will be relatively painless. On cars on ebay, I reccomend only buying from dealerships that you can verify by other means like phone book, etc, or other parties where you or someone you know can actually inspect the vehicle, and complete the transaction in person.

[Kevin M]

The *really* big red flag on eBay is when they say "you have to use this escrow site so it's safe for both of us." The site is probably a scam used with other eBay auctions. It's one of the major tools scammers use. eBay or somebody posted an article where a major scammer revealed all the tricks.

[dknv]

That's too bad that a monetary loss is also part of his learning.

In the end, it sounds similar to the pppowerbook story. (Now I can't find the thread thru a google search. Did anyone keep the original thread link from the something awful forums?)

[qksubi]

People Suck

[Nick Koan]

Thats too bad. I hope it'll all work out.

[doubleurx]

Considering how foolish he feels, he said he is still upbeat that he can recover the money???

He is the one that first got me into WRX's. He got his in 2001 and has steadily modified that thing into a monster.

Live and learn!

[MikeSTI]

sucks! live and learn :?

[JC]

Originally Posted by Dean

On cars on ebay, I reccomend only buying from dealerships that you can verify by other means like phone book, etc, or other parties where you or someone you know can actually inspect the vehicle, and complete the transaction in person.

My family has bought 3 cars on ebay sight unseen, granted we went and picked them up but we have never had a problem and all have been private parties. Just gotta use your head.