Rota wheel question... - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Highdesertsuby · 2008-03-25, 01:07 PM

I looked all over the forums for the answer to this, but didn't see anything obvious. So I aologize in advance in case the subject has been brought up before...
Has anyone in the group put any of the Rota rims on a GC Impreza sized 17x7.5 (+4

and had any rubbing issues with the fenders? I have a set of 17x7 (+45) TenzoR DC-5's on my car (tires are 205/40-17) and the rears rub just a bit when the trunk is loaded up. I like the Tenzo's, but I'm thinking about changing to Rota D2's or P45F's and want to know if I need to get the fenders rolled. Maybe one of you guys have a loose 17 in. rota that I can throw on to check the clearance...

Kevin M · 2008-03-25, 01:12 PM

If you are rubbing with a 205/40R17 you've got some serious camber issues.

MPREZIV · 2008-03-25, 01:16 PM

^^what he said. A 205 should not rub...

Kevin M · 2008-03-25, 01:22 PM

Especially not one that short! I suspect it's a typo, and is supposed to be 225/45?

Highdesertsuby · 2008-03-25, 01:29 PM

nope, not a typo...205/40-17 Toy FZ4 The rears are wearing dead even so I wouldn't suspect it is a camber problem. The rims I have are 17x7 with +45 offset and as metioned, they only rub slightly on the sidewalls when the trunk is loaded. It might even stop if I take off the plastic strip in there. I was wondering about the Rota's though because even though they have 3mm more offset, they are usually 7.5 in. wide, not 7's like mine.

Kevin M · 2008-03-25, 01:31 PM

And it rubs on both sides? 205/40R17 is crazy small. No wider and way shorter than stock RS tires.

Highdesertsuby · 2008-03-25, 01:35 PM

I know what you mean...I didn't expect them to rub at all. The rubbing is so minor though, even 1mm more clearance might fix it. Only happens with a loaded trunk (or passengers in the back) and I hit a decent sized dip, or VERY hard cornering with those same conditions (good swaybars should take care of that one).

Highdesertsuby · 2008-03-25, 01:43 PM

I'm actually wondering if it has to do with the thickness of the rear drums where the studs go through...might be thicker than the rotors on an RS. Could account for the difference?

Nick Koan · 2008-03-25, 02:29 PM

Are you lowered?

Highdesertsuby · 2008-03-25, 03:35 PM

nope...stock L springs in back and what looks like outback sport springs in front (damn car looks like a lowrider...taller in the front by almost 2 inches). PLanning on installing stock RS springs to level everything out...also Tenzo could have mis-advertised the offset. I haven't pulled a rim off yet to measure. in any case, it's not something I'm too worried about...just an irritating buzz when the sidewall touches the fender. This is mainly the reason I was asking about Rota wheel clearance for 7.5 in. width.

Kavid · 2008-03-25, 04:02 PM

Even though mine is an 05 WRX, Not my favorite body style like yours and Cory's, I am running some Rota Subzeros 17 x 7.5 that are a couple years old. I beleive they are +48 offset but not positive. I am running 225/45/17 Nitto Neo Geos for tires and have zero problems whatsoever with rubbing or anything for that matter. I am lowered also with Megan springs. They are on my car and I don't know when you wanted to do this, but I will be at the meet this Thursday if you want to maybe meet before that and pop one off to see somewhere, or what not, let me know cause I'm down to help.

Highdesertsuby · 2008-03-25, 04:08 PM

Thats cool, I definitly appreciate it. I probably won't be able to make it to any of the meets except the one in the second week of april ( i have a schedule conflict on thursday nights) and anytime my previous committment gets canceled. I'm trying to get out to the autoX on the 5th though...

Kavid · 2008-03-25, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Highdesertsuby

Thats cool, I definitly appreciate it. I probably won't be able to make it to any of the meets except the one in the second week of april ( i have a schedule conflict on thursday nights) and anytime my previous committment gets canceled. I'm trying to get out to the autoX on the 5th though...

No prob, I understand about schedule conflicts for sure on Thursdays, I think we all do, we all have something else to do a lot of the time. I have to meet the boys for the gym every weekday including Thursday, cook dinner, blah blah blah, or something never fails to come up and ruin plans made. I'm finally making it again this week though. Do you live in Reno? Most nights after work and the gym Mon-Fri I could possibly meet you if you have time. Weekends are out though more times than not. Just let me know.

cody · 2008-03-25, 06:46 PM

I have a set of 17X7.5 Rota Torques with some old Yoko AVS ES100's that are 215/45/17. You're welcome to try them out some week night here in Stead.

Oh, and positive rear camber would cause your current rubbing issue but likely wouldn't effect wear assuming 0 toe. Just look at the wheels from behind and ensure the rims appear to have at least a little neg. camber on both sides.

Highdesertsuby · 2008-03-26, 12:58 PM

ok, that can work. I live up past red rock, so I drive that way every evening. I'm pretty sure the camber in the back is right at zero, but I can check. Will be installing a full set of RS springs and disc brakes (f/r) soon so when I get it realigned I'll have them set it a bit negative just to be sure.

cody · 2008-03-26, 01:12 PM

Cool, T,W, or Th of next week would work best for me. I'll help you mount one or all of them up.

Shit, if they fit, we can talk about a fair price if you want to buy them.

Highdesertsuby · 2008-03-27, 09:36 AM

ok that will work...prob either tues or wed for me. I'll check mon or tues next week to make sure...thanks

cody · 2008-03-27, 11:32 AM

Cool.

left footed whooten · 2008-03-30, 08:51 PM

An aside; I don't think P45's are offered in a 17" IIRC

Highdesertsuby · 2008-04-03, 10:20 AM

cody, sorry i didn't get the chance to get back to you about trying on the rims, but I should be at the meet tonight (4/3) If you have one loose, maybe we can try it, if not we can try for a different weekday eve.

cody · 2008-04-03, 10:30 AM

Yah, I can't make it to the meet. I could bring one to Stead on Sat. or Sun. or just some weekday night works.

2008-03-25, 01:07 PM	#1
Highdesertsuby EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 154 Car: 1997 Subaru Impreza L Class: n/a This is going to take crackerjack timing...	Rota wheel question... I looked all over the forums for the answer to this, but didn't see anything obvious. So I aologize in advance in case the subject has been brought up before... Has anyone in the group put any of the Rota rims on a GC Impreza sized 17x7.5 (+4 and had any rubbing issues with the fenders? I have a set of 17x7 (+45) TenzoR DC-5's on my car (tires are 205/40-17) and the rears rub just a bit when the trunk is loaded up. I like the Tenzo's, but I'm thinking about changing to Rota D2's or P45F's and want to know if I need to get the fenders rolled. Maybe one of you guys have a loose 17 in. rota that I can throw on to check the clearance...

2008-03-25, 01:12 PM	#2
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	If you are rubbing with a 205/40R17 you've got some serious camber issues. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2008-03-25, 01:16 PM	#3
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	^^what he said. A 205 should not rub... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2008-03-25, 01:22 PM	#4
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Especially not one that short! I suspect it's a typo, and is supposed to be 225/45? __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2008-03-25, 01:31 PM	#6
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	And it rubs on both sides? 205/40R17 is crazy small. No wider and way shorter than stock RS tires. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2008-03-25, 01:29 PM	#5
Highdesertsuby EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 154 Car: 1997 Subaru Impreza L Class: n/a This is going to take crackerjack timing...	nope, not a typo...205/40-17 Toy FZ4 The rears are wearing dead even so I wouldn't suspect it is a camber problem. The rims I have are 17x7 with +45 offset and as metioned, they only rub slightly on the sidewalls when the trunk is loaded. It might even stop if I take off the plastic strip in there. I was wondering about the Rota's though because even though they have 3mm more offset, they are usually 7.5 in. wide, not 7's like mine.

2008-03-25, 01:35 PM	#7
Highdesertsuby EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 154 Car: 1997 Subaru Impreza L Class: n/a This is going to take crackerjack timing...	I know what you mean...I didn't expect them to rub at all. The rubbing is so minor though, even 1mm more clearance might fix it. Only happens with a loaded trunk (or passengers in the back) and I hit a decent sized dip, or VERY hard cornering with those same conditions (good swaybars should take care of that one).

2008-03-25, 01:43 PM	#8
Highdesertsuby EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 154 Car: 1997 Subaru Impreza L Class: n/a This is going to take crackerjack timing...	I'm actually wondering if it has to do with the thickness of the rear drums where the studs go through...might be thicker than the rotors on an RS. Could account for the difference?

2008-03-25, 02:29 PM	#9
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Are you lowered? __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2008-03-25, 03:35 PM	#10
Highdesertsuby EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 154 Car: 1997 Subaru Impreza L Class: n/a This is going to take crackerjack timing...	nope...stock L springs in back and what looks like outback sport springs in front (damn car looks like a lowrider...taller in the front by almost 2 inches). PLanning on installing stock RS springs to level everything out...also Tenzo could have mis-advertised the offset. I haven't pulled a rim off yet to measure. in any case, it's not something I'm too worried about...just an irritating buzz when the sidewall touches the fender. This is mainly the reason I was asking about Rota wheel clearance for 7.5 in. width.

2008-03-25, 04:02 PM	#11
Kavid EJ22 Real Name: David Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 156 Car: 09 Impreza 2.5i Sedan No Turbo I Want My WRX Back!	Even though mine is an 05 WRX, Not my favorite body style like yours and Cory's, I am running some Rota Subzeros 17 x 7.5 that are a couple years old. I beleive they are +48 offset but not positive. I am running 225/45/17 Nitto Neo Geos for tires and have zero problems whatsoever with rubbing or anything for that matter. I am lowered also with Megan springs. They are on my car and I don't know when you wanted to do this, but I will be at the meet this Thursday if you want to maybe meet before that and pop one off to see somewhere, or what not, let me know cause I'm down to help. __________________ No Regrets, Live Life

2008-03-25, 04:08 PM	#12
Highdesertsuby EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 154 Car: 1997 Subaru Impreza L Class: n/a This is going to take crackerjack timing...	Thats cool, I definitly appreciate it. I probably won't be able to make it to any of the meets except the one in the second week of april ( i have a schedule conflict on thursday nights) and anytime my previous committment gets canceled. I'm trying to get out to the autoX on the 5th though...

2008-03-25, 06:46 PM	#14
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I have a set of 17X7.5 Rota Torques with some old Yoko AVS ES100's that are 215/45/17. You're welcome to try them out some week night here in Stead. Oh, and positive rear camber would cause your current rubbing issue but likely wouldn't effect wear assuming 0 toe. Just look at the wheels from behind and ensure the rims appear to have at least a little neg. camber on both sides. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-03-26, 12:58 PM	#15
Highdesertsuby EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 154 Car: 1997 Subaru Impreza L Class: n/a This is going to take crackerjack timing...	ok, that can work. I live up past red rock, so I drive that way every evening. I'm pretty sure the camber in the back is right at zero, but I can check. Will be installing a full set of RS springs and disc brakes (f/r) soon so when I get it realigned I'll have them set it a bit negative just to be sure.

2008-03-26, 01:12 PM	#16
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Cool, T,W, or Th of next week would work best for me. I'll help you mount one or all of them up. Shit, if they fit, we can talk about a fair price if you want to buy them. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-03-27, 09:36 AM	#17
Highdesertsuby EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 154 Car: 1997 Subaru Impreza L Class: n/a This is going to take crackerjack timing...	ok that will work...prob either tues or wed for me. I'll check mon or tues next week to make sure...thanks

2008-03-27, 11:32 AM	#18
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Cool. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2008-03-30, 08:51 PM	#19
left footed whooten EJ251 Real Name: Dylan Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Truckee Posts: 539 Car: 06 WRX wagon CGM Class: Stuck working weekends	An aside; I don't think P45's are offered in a 17" IIRC __________________ I'd rather drink muddy water and sleep in a hollow log

2008-04-03, 10:20 AM	#20
Highdesertsuby EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 154 Car: 1997 Subaru Impreza L Class: n/a This is going to take crackerjack timing...	cody, sorry i didn't get the chance to get back to you about trying on the rims, but I should be at the meet tonight (4/3) If you have one loose, maybe we can try it, if not we can try for a different weekday eve.

2008-04-03, 10:30 AM	#21
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Yah, I can't make it to the meet. I could bring one to Stead on Sat. or Sun. or just some weekday night works. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

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