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Kevin M · 2006-04-05, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean

My point is that unless you are running race rubber which is the reason for this rule, you may be stretching things to try and run TDSP using the STX rules...

Using the basic Stock, and SP and ST rules theory: Unless it specifically says you can, you can't... Our T class rules do not allow for ST prepared cars to run under there SP class on Street Tires...

So if he wants to run on street tires in DSP at .829, he is welcome to. But STX at .804 is better...

Supps say:

Quote:

All street legal classes will be eligible for Street Tire (including Stock, Street Prepared, SM/SM2, and SU).

Since an STX car that shows up and slaps *SP on the side as its class is SP legal, the street tire rule applies. Is it a stretch? Maybe. But it's legal.

sperry · 2006-04-05, 10:10 AM

All I know is that I've got a set of stock '02 WRX brakes (both front and rear) sitting in my garage I'm willing to sell if one of you RS fellas wants to upgrade.

bruspeed · 2006-04-05, 10:35 AM

But, since I would be running under the STX guise, would that mean I would run ESP with all the other WRX's?

And Sperry, don't sell the rear ones, if this works, I'll take 'em.

sperry · 2006-04-05, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bruspeed

But, since I would be running under the STX guise, would that mean I would run ESP with all the other WRX's?

And Sperry, don't sell the rear ones, if this works, I'll take 'em.

Are WRX rear brakes different from RS rear brakes?

Kevin M · 2006-04-05, 10:36 AM

The rears are the same, but the fronts are a good bang-for-the-buck upgrade for peeps not running Stock or SP.

Kevin M · 2006-04-05, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bruspeed

But, since I would be running under the STX guise, would that mean I would run ESP with all the other WRX's?

No, cars aren't classed specifically in ST, only excluded. You'd still be DSP.

Dean · 2006-04-05, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Supps say:

Quote:

All street legal classes will be eligible for Street Tire (including Stock, Street Prepared, SM/SM2, and SU).

Since an STX car that shows up and slaps *SP on the side as its class is SP legal, the street tire rule applies. Is it a stretch? Maybe. But it's legal.

Ah, but it isn't a stretch, it is clearly not allowed.

An ST car running in SP under the SP rule allowing it to do so does not make it a SP car, it is still an ST prepared car, and ST cars are not in the list of eligible T classes, and therefore... [A WITCH....] not allowed.

In general, Solo rules are not transative... I can do up a Ven diagram if it would help.

Nice try though.

And I doubt a T rule change allowing it is not in the making. I know I would be against it. Imagine the verbage you would have to write related to PAXing ST cars...

The SP rule is specificaly to allow ST prepared cars a place to run on race tires, and nothing else.

Kevin M · 2006-04-05, 10:43 AM

Well, that sucks for Chris. I tried.

bruspeed · 2006-04-05, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean

Ah, but it isn't a stretch, it is clearly not allowed.

An ST car running in SP under the SP rule allowing it to do so does not make it a SP car, it is still an ST prepared car, and ST cars are not in the list of eligible T classes, and therefore... [A WITCH....] not allowed.

In general, Solo rules are not transative... I can do up a Ven diagram if it would help.

Nice try though.

And I doubt a T rule change allowing it is not in the making. I know I would be against it. Imagine the verbage you would have to write related to PAXing ST cars...

The SP rule is specificaly to allow ST prepared cars a place to run on race tires, and nothing else.

Well, we tried

Stupid RS brakes.

bruspeed · 2006-04-05, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

The rears are the same

At least I didn't get totally boned.

NevadaSTi · 2006-04-06, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

Reminder, Car numbers and class letters must be the same font...

Is this one better?

Nick Koan · 2006-04-06, 12:33 PM

Big sigs make baby Jesus want to kill the other baby gods.

sperry · 2006-04-06, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nKoan

Big sigs make baby Jesus want to kill the other baby gods.

Seriously, the whole picture in the sig thing doesn't go well here... especially when it's this big ass thing:

You've already got an avatar, and a place to put your car number and class, in your profile. Ditch the sig images.

NevadaSTi · 2006-04-06, 03:22 PM

I put it there to get some opinions. Obviously I got them, albite they are negative.

Kevin M · 2006-04-06, 03:26 PM

Linking or attaching one image is perfectly fine. Adding them to our sig is a no-no, it clutters up the board. Ever been to clubSi, ClubRSX, or clubWRX?

cody · 2006-04-06, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Linking or attaching one image is perfectly fine. Adding them to our sig is a no-no, it clutters up the board. Ever been to clubSi, ClubRSX, or clubWRX?

Check out my sig on wrxfanantics:

Kevin M · 2006-04-06, 03:42 PM

Ricer!

cody · 2006-04-06, 03:46 PM

I seem to remember a certain blue RS with home painted white wheels (rust coming through and all) that definately belonged to a certain ricer.

Kevin M · 2006-04-06, 03:55 PM

Ouch, burn.

cody · 2006-04-06, 04:03 PM

Sorry, hope I didn't cut you too deep.

Kevin M · 2006-04-06, 05:16 PM

Heh, the intent was not rice, it was the execution.

The day after I did that, they looked pretty sweet. But bad prep + massive brake dust on porous paint = teh uglay.

NevadaSTi · 2006-04-07, 07:38 AM

Never been to any of those sites.

2006-04-05, 10:10 AM	#227
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	All I know is that I've got a set of stock '02 WRX brakes (both front and rear) sitting in my garage I'm willing to sell if one of you RS fellas wants to upgrade. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-04-05, 10:35 AM	#228
bruspeed EJ251 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sparks Posts: 526 Car: 2005 2.5 rs cgm Class: TDSP	But, since I would be running under the STX guise, would that mean I would run ESP with all the other WRX's? And Sperry, don't sell the rear ones, if this works, I'll take 'em. __________________ Can anybody fly this thing?

2006-04-05, 10:36 AM	#230
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	The rears are the same, but the fronts are a good bang-for-the-buck upgrade for peeps not running Stock or SP. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-04-05, 10:43 AM	#233
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Well, that sucks for Chris. I tried. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-04-06, 12:33 PM	#237
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Big sigs make baby Jesus want to kill the other baby gods. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2006-04-06, 03:22 PM	#239
NevadaSTi EJ251 Real Name: Brian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minden, Nv. Posts: 989 Car: 1994 Toyota 4Runner Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once	I put it there to get some opinions. Obviously I got them, albite they are negative. __________________ The last living thing on earth will be me. I'll step on the last cockroach.

2006-04-06, 03:26 PM	#240
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Linking or attaching one image is perfectly fine. Adding them to our sig is a no-no, it clutters up the board. Ever been to clubSi, ClubRSX, or clubWRX? __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-04-06, 03:42 PM	#242
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Ricer! __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-04-06, 03:46 PM	#243
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I seem to remember a certain blue RS with home painted white wheels (rust coming through and all) that definately belonged to a certain ricer.

2006-04-06, 03:55 PM	#244
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Ouch, burn. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-04-06, 04:03 PM	#245
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Sorry, hope I didn't cut you too deep.

2006-04-06, 05:16 PM	#246
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Heh, the intent was not rice, it was the execution. The day after I did that, they looked pretty sweet. But bad prep + massive brake dust on porous paint = teh uglay. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-04-07, 07:38 AM	#247
NevadaSTi EJ251 Real Name: Brian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minden, Nv. Posts: 989 Car: 1994 Toyota 4Runner Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once	Never been to any of those sites. __________________ The last living thing on earth will be me. I'll step on the last cockroach.

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