Autocross Chat 2009 - Page 12 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

WRXlerate · 2009-07-10, 12:20 PM

So what time do we need to be at the track in the AM on saturday?? I looked on the renoscca site and I get the email but it says nothing about the time just dates and run groups.
Thanks

van · 2009-07-10, 02:19 PM

from Pat's post on the reno scca forums

Quote:

Aurocross July 11th
Like the title says.....
Set-up will be friday @ 10 am
if you will be bringing your motorhome out friday, you will have to park on the south end of the paddock as there are street drags Friday night....

as for Sat, it will be controled access with escort....for the morning run groups, drivers meeting will be at 8:45 am and first car out at 9am....
at the end of the day we will have to take everything down as our PDX/Time trials will be using the same section of the track....(come out sunday for the fun)

We will have food on sitewith the BBQ wagon with pulled pork,hambugers,vegi burgers,grilled chicken,hot dogs....ect

Hope to see you all out there.....

I imagine registration will be closed by 8:30

WRXlerate · 2009-07-10, 09:29 PM

Thanks Van, I didn't know that was where to find it, I was looking under schedules.

WRXlerate · 2009-07-12, 08:00 PM

That was a damn good time yesterday, now I see why all of you guys are hooked!!

MPREZIV · 2009-07-13, 06:33 AM

Like I told you on Sat. morning, it's like crack.

Oh, and I wanna point out: 6th in PAX!!!!!

Dean · 2009-07-13, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPREZIV

Oh, and I wanna point out: 6th in PAX!!!!!

Yah, but you got beat by a girl!.

Congrats Debbie on #5 in Open PAX.

What/who was the unknown STU car?

MPREZIV · 2009-07-13, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

Yah, but you got beat by a girl!.

Congrats Debbie on #5 in Open PAX.

What/who was the unknown STU car?

Well DUH!!

Agreed on the kudos to Deb!

And I dunno...

k-dogg39 · 2009-07-13, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WRXlerate

That was a damn good time yesterday, now I see why all of you guys are hooked!!

Definitely a good time. It was nice to meet you as well. Thanks for the ride along, your wagon is sweet!

Congrats to Cory, Debbie (also thanks for the ride along) and Matt R on the nice PAX finishes.

k-dogg39 · 2009-07-13, 09:51 AM

Oh and I don't think there actually was an STU car. I think that was Vic and Renee running for no points in the afternoon in the honda.

Dean · 2009-07-13, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-dogg39

Oh and I don't think there actually was an STU car. I think that was Vic and Renee running for no points in the afternoon in the honda.

Might want to mention that over on SCCA Forums so they fix it...

k-dogg39 · 2009-07-13, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

Might want to mention that over on SCCA Forums so they fix it...

Ya, I sent Jason a PM a little bit ago.

MattR · 2009-08-22, 04:11 PM

See edit below..

Dean · 2009-08-22, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR

I added a bunch of codecs, not sure wth...

Download G-spot. It will tell you everything about the codecs. it is probably something mediaplayer can play, but WMM can't reencode or needs a direct show filter for.

Drop both the original and WMM output onto it and cut and paste the audio info.

Nice run BTW. Looks like you need to aim the camera down to get more dark ground in the frame so it opens up the aperture a little unless you can tell it to overexpose the sky...

Who else was in BSP?

MattR · 2009-08-22, 04:49 PM

Only Jerry and I in BSP today, no yellow vette. It was a good run. I think I'll aim it down a bit more tomorrow.

Thanks Dean, I'll try that.

MattR · 2009-08-23, 03:54 PM

Here's video from today...still working on editing so I can brighten it up, but there was no light today, very dark and raining. Of course, the rain stopped after the 1st run group, so we'll see how that works out.

Here is Saturdays run in the dry:

YouTube- Reno SCCA Solo Event 8 Reno Fernley Raceway Run 3

Here is video of sunday in the rain:

YouTube- Reno SCCA @ RFR Solo Event- 9..08/23/09 Run 4

k-dogg39 · 2009-08-23, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR

Of course, the rain stopped after the 1st run group, so we'll see how that works out.

ya, wish I would have gotten a better first or second run. After that rain came the course got pretty slick.

MPREZIV · 2009-08-24, 07:10 AM

Got down to a 59.7xx Sunday afternoon. Course was definitely faster once it dried and warmed up a bit.

And Kevin M, if you're reading this, I dunno why you can't get your car to rotate, 'cause I damn near spun it on Saturday morning!

Left Foot Braking is your friend...

Kevin M · 2009-08-24, 03:54 PM

Duly noted. Now the question is, can I keep your car pointed in the right direction at full speed?

MPREZIV · 2009-08-25, 06:33 AM

Yeah, my car's definitely "looser" overall, but yours is WAY easier to drive because of that. With a little LFB input to a: take weight off of the rear end on turn in so it can rotate, and b: keep the drivetrain loaded as you put the throttle back on, it really gets around the corners well, and comes out like a bullet!

I was trail braking through a top-of-second-gear left hander, and it just whipped around on me hard! I think I didn't need the brake input where I was, which caused it to break loose, but it was my second lap and I was still feeling it out. I managed to hold onto it, but only after a four turn death wobble...

I wouldn't mess with the car's setup. Just the Kevin's setup.

Dean · 2009-08-25, 07:04 AM

Loose is fast.

Not having driven either car, I am guessing, but it sounds like Cory's car is a little more rear biased like mine so you have to have your foot on the gas and drive line engaged when cornering and Kevin's is still a bit more neutral or front biased and needs a kick to rotate.

Left foot braking is a double edged sword. While it keeps the diffs engaged, it can also induce understeer and/or oversteer depending on conditions and brake configuration. Often it is best used before turn initiation to drop speed instead of a lift and shift weight forward. It also doesn't work unless you are good at it! Practice a ton on the street. practicing at autocross or on the track is often detrimental to times.

If you entered a corner near the right speed, throttle steering is often much more effective mid corner as long as you don't do a big lift and unlock everything, unless that is needed.

MPREZIV · 2009-08-25, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

Not having driven either car, I am guessing, but it sounds like Cory's car is a little more rear biased like mine so you have to have your foot on the gas and drive line engaged when cornering and Kevin's is still a bit more neutral or front biased and needs a kick to rotate.

Exactly. Mine requires you to keep if from over-rotating, and Kevin's requires you to make it rotate, but both are very easy to accomplish with the correct LFB input. I say Kevin's car is way easier to drive fast, with my driving style. My car requires a lot of fast inputs and you're "on the edge" all the time to drive it fast. Kevin's car is much smoother to me, and the driver is not on the edge of Epic Fail nearly as often.

MattR · 2009-08-26, 05:17 PM

Damn! Karts! I pulled out the top car pax on saturday (4th), but those karts are fast... Sunday I was screwed by rain but still managed a top 10 ( the beauty of AWD) .

Cory, shit, you had another great weekend...in both cars. I think you're well on your way to a top 10 overall this season...

And Kevin W, Silvio and Chris, damn you guys had a close battle in SM this weekend...Wow!

Kevin M · 2009-08-26, 06:11 PM

Cory, which day did you drive which car? I am hoping like hell you drove yours on Sunday.

MattR · 2009-08-26, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin M

Cory, which day did you drive which car? I am hoping like hell you drove yours on Sunday.

Haha

Yeah, he drove Whitey on Saturday and His own on Sunday...

Kevin M · 2009-08-26, 07:44 PM

Thank God. I'd have to tuck tail and go to SM otherwise!

2009-07-10, 12:20 PM	#276
WRXlerate EJ22 Real Name: John B. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind a brick wall. Posts: 471 Car: 02 Soccermom Wagon Class: "sleeper" Destroying V8 Egos 4 cylinders at a time	So what time do we need to be at the track in the AM on saturday?? I looked on the renoscca site and I get the email but it says nothing about the time just dates and run groups. Thanks __________________ Stuff sold by the gram is always more exciting than stuff sold by the pound. JC

2009-07-10, 09:29 PM	#278
WRXlerate EJ22 Real Name: John B. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind a brick wall. Posts: 471 Car: 02 Soccermom Wagon Class: "sleeper" Destroying V8 Egos 4 cylinders at a time	Thanks Van, I didn't know that was where to find it, I was looking under schedules. __________________ Stuff sold by the gram is always more exciting than stuff sold by the pound. JC

2009-07-12, 08:00 PM	#279
WRXlerate EJ22 Real Name: John B. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind a brick wall. Posts: 471 Car: 02 Soccermom Wagon Class: "sleeper" Destroying V8 Egos 4 cylinders at a time	That was a damn good time yesterday, now I see why all of you guys are hooked!! __________________ Stuff sold by the gram is always more exciting than stuff sold by the pound. JC

2009-07-13, 06:33 AM	#280
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Like I told you on Sat. morning, it's like crack. Oh, and I wanna point out: 6th in PAX!!!!! __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2009-08-22, 04:11 PM	#287
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	See edit below.. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.” Last edited by MattR; 2009-08-23 at 08:31 PM.

2009-07-13, 09:51 AM	#284
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	Oh and I don't think there actually was an STU car. I think that was Vic and Renee running for no points in the afternoon in the honda.

2009-08-22, 04:49 PM	#289
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Only Jerry and I in BSP today, no yellow vette. It was a good run. I think I'll aim it down a bit more tomorrow. Thanks Dean, I'll try that. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2009-08-24, 07:10 AM	#292
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Got down to a 59.7xx Sunday afternoon. Course was definitely faster once it dried and warmed up a bit. And Kevin M, if you're reading this, I dunno why you can't get your car to rotate, 'cause I damn near spun it on Saturday morning! Left Foot Braking is your friend... __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2009-08-24, 03:54 PM	#293
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Duly noted. Now the question is, can I keep your car pointed in the right direction at full speed? __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-08-25, 06:33 AM	#294
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Yeah, my car's definitely "looser" overall, but yours is WAY easier to drive because of that. With a little LFB input to a: take weight off of the rear end on turn in so it can rotate, and b: keep the drivetrain loaded as you put the throttle back on, it really gets around the corners well, and comes out like a bullet! I was trail braking through a top-of-second-gear left hander, and it just whipped around on me hard! I think I didn't need the brake input where I was, which caused it to break loose, but it was my second lap and I was still feeling it out. I managed to hold onto it, but only after a four turn death wobble... I wouldn't mess with the car's setup. Just the Kevin's setup. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can fck for HOURS..." Last edited by MPREZIV; 2009-08-25 at 07:03 AM.*

2009-08-25, 07:04 AM	#295
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Loose is fast. Not having driven either car, I am guessing, but it sounds like Cory's car is a little more rear biased like mine so you have to have your foot on the gas and drive line engaged when cornering and Kevin's is still a bit more neutral or front biased and needs a kick to rotate. Left foot braking is a double edged sword. While it keeps the diffs engaged, it can also induce understeer and/or oversteer depending on conditions and brake configuration. Often it is best used before turn initiation to drop speed instead of a lift and shift weight forward. It also doesn't work unless you are good at it! Practice a ton on the street. practicing at autocross or on the track is often detrimental to times. If you entered a corner near the right speed, throttle steering is often much more effective mid corner as long as you don't do a big lift and unlock everything, unless that is needed. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids... Last edited by Dean; 2009-08-25 at 07:07 AM.

2009-08-26, 05:17 PM	#297
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Damn! Karts! I pulled out the top car pax on saturday (4th), but those karts are fast... Sunday I was screwed by rain but still managed a top 10 ( the beauty of AWD) . Cory, shit, you had another great weekend...in both cars. I think you're well on your way to a top 10 overall this season... And Kevin W, Silvio and Chris, damn you guys had a close battle in SM this weekend...Wow! __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2009-08-26, 06:11 PM	#298
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Cory, which day did you drive which car? I am hoping like hell you drove yours on Sunday. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-08-26, 07:44 PM	#300
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Thank God. I'd have to tuck tail and go to SM otherwise! __________________ FWD is the new AWD

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