Trackmaster's event at RFR, May 28/29 - Page 2 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

MikeK · 2005-05-24, 06:07 PM

That sucks! First scott, now you

sperry · 2005-05-24, 06:38 PM

According to the TMR policy, you have to cancel 15 days prior for a refund. I didn't bother to contact Doug about getting a refund, since I'm sure the answer would be "we don't have anyone on the waiting list, so we can't give you a refund."

tysonK · 2005-05-24, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

According to the TMR policy, you have to cancel 15 days prior for a refund. I didn't bother to contact Doug about getting a refund, since I'm sure the answer would be "we don't have anyone on the waiting list, so we can't give you a refund."

Yah I know.

But it doesn't hurt to try.

Kevin M · 2005-05-25, 12:31 AM

Eh, didn't have all info. Sucks balls for you guys.

sperry · 2005-05-25, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Eh, didn't have all info. Sucks balls for you guys.

Yeah thanks.

I'd be there in my car if I had that driveshaft.

Pat R. · 2005-05-25, 09:38 AM

So who is still going?

doubleurx · 2005-05-25, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat R.

So who is still going?

I am, I think Matt, Mike K and Tyson for one day.

sperry · 2005-05-25, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx

I am, I think Matt, Mike K and Tyson for one day.

I'm still in, because Dean is the man.

Red > Blue... at least for this weekend.

doubleurx · 2005-05-25, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

I'm still in, because Dean is the man.

Red > Blue... at least for this weekend.

Great news!. That is so generous of Dean. Wow!

MikeK · 2005-05-25, 12:15 PM

Wow, nice Job! Dean, what are you going to drive at Hawethorne?

p.s. White > *

MikeK · 2005-05-25, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by doubleurx

I am, I think Matt, Mike K and Tyson for one day.

I am there for both days

Dean · 2005-05-25, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

Wow, nice Job! Dean, what are you going to drive at Hawethorne?

Another red car. Can you say B Stock? Thanks Debbie.

MattR · 2005-05-25, 02:32 PM

Sweet , Dean, you are a true friend, awesome work...I think you'll be damn fast in the RX-8 anyway though..

Also, I'm signed up to run Saturday and Sunday, but I will likely only run for an hour or two sunday, as i have to get somewhere in the afternoon.

I will have the Titan, so if anyone needs anything hauled out there, you'll need to run it by my house Friday night. I am personally taking a spare set of tires, the easy up, 15 gallons of gas. But I should have some room for a few more things if anyone needs..

oh, is anyone going to try to make early registration Friday night? I think it would be a good idea to do that. any thoughts?

sperry · 2005-05-25, 02:34 PM

I prolly won't make early reg. I'll prolly have some stuff for the Titan as well... a set of rims (though they prolly fit in the car okay) and some gas... but I'll try to make it fit in the WRX 1st.

doubleurx · 2005-05-25, 02:35 PM

That would be to much driving for me Friday. I will just haul out there Saturday morning.

Thanks for the offer on hauling stuff.

MikeSTI · 2005-05-26, 08:46 AM

so is there still a brake bleed Friday night???????

sperry · 2005-05-26, 09:00 AM

Dean already bled his brakes recently, and I just swapped out to my race pads, so I think the red WRX is good to go.

doubleurx · 2005-05-26, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

Dean already bled his brakes recently, and I just swapped out to my race pads, so I think the red WRX is good to go.

What do you guys think - 10,000 miles, stock fluid?: I think I should be OK for this event, but will do new fluid, pads and lines for the Audi event.

tysonK · 2005-05-27, 07:25 PM

Me and Matt went and got the gas!

So ready for pit stop re-fuel action tommorow.

Dean · 2005-05-29, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx

What do you guys think - 10,000 miles, stock fluid?: I think I should be OK for this event, but will do new fluid, pads and lines for the Audi event.

So did they last the event? I'm guessing not, unless you weren't breaking that hard...

How did it go guys? Got an update from Scott SAt. on my cell voice mail.

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 09:03 PM

It was a lot of fun, and VERY fast. We were easily the fastest cars in our run group. By the end of today Eric was beating us all. We should have a lot of good video footage from the two days.

On a related note, my brakes sucked. Nick, Eric and I all suffered bad brake fade. Eric and I ended up bleeding again saturday night, which helped for a session or two, but now my pedal is almost to the floor again, and my rotors are warped or have pad material stuck to them or something

Tyson got a hole in a radiator hose on saturday. We thought it was just a loose clamp, so a few zip ties later he was back out on the track, but when it became clear what was wrong he had to sit the rest of the day out. Scott went on an off-roading adventure ... the video of that should be good.

Overall an awesome event. It is amazing how much speed everyone picked up from saturday morning to sunday afternoon. In the first session I was braking to about 90 mph for turns 1-4 ... by the end of today we weren't even lifting, going in at 120 - 125 mph! I can't wait to hear the instructor reactions at the audi club event in 2 weeks

I just hope I can find a solution to the brake problem in time!

Dean · 2005-05-29, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeK

Scott went on an off-roading adventure

WHAT?!?!?!? Where?????

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Originally Posted by MikeK

... the video of that should be good.

or incriminating.

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Originally Posted by MikeK

by the end of today we weren't even lifting, going in at 120 - 125 mph! I can't wait to hear the instructor reactions at the audi club event in 2 weeks

Great....

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Originally Posted by MikeK

I just hope I can find a solution to the brake problem in time!

What pads are you running? They can make all the difference.

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

What pads are you running? They can make all the difference.

Ferrodo DS2500. I am going to ask Nate what can be done. I might try some higher temps pads and steel brake lines for the audi events, but I am not confident of being able to last the two days on one bleed.

Today the pads were still biting OK, it is just that the pedal was as mushy as hell, and it got progessively worse as the day wore on. Even after 3 bleeds in the last week I was never really happy with the pedal feel. I have used 3 cans of the ATE stuff just for this one event

Dean · 2005-05-29, 10:07 PM

I can't speak to the Ferrodos, but I tend to run High performance street pads, and seldom have brake fade. Even on my stock brakes, I knew how far I could push them. I have not riden with you on a track recently, so don't know where you are in your learning, but, I have a guess as to what is happening....

I'll get into it more in the morning when I'm more awake, but what you are running into now is the resource wall. Your car only has so much to give, and you are asking it to do to much, just like pushing in a corner does to the tires.

Fast is easy. Stand on the pedal. Turning is pretty easy. Consistantly putting the car withing 4-6"s of where you want it, being smooth and managing your car's resources are the next steps and are harder.

A pasenger in your car should have little sensation of when your foot comes on and off the brakes as you enter and exit a braking zone. They will know you braked because of the pressure on the belts, and the deceleration, but the actual transition points will be hard to pinpoint.

You caused the brake fade, not your brakes, or the fluid, or the pads. I doubt there is a brake system, even F1 Carbon-carbons that cannot be overworked. Look at the WRC drivers. They have puny brakes compared to yours, yet they last 2 or more stages of some of the hardest driving imagineable. Heck, they can loose only tenths of seconds due to poor brake performance by managing what little they have left.

You may be surprised with how fast you go when you smooth things out...

Edit: Sorry if this sounded preachy. I'm tired. All I'm trying to say is that the fix may not to be the car, but to how you are driving it, or a combination of the two.

sperry · 2005-05-29, 10:07 PM

Dean, your car now has the "4 wheels off on 12" mod.

..don't worry, I already vacuumed out all the weeds from your fog lights and lower grill.

Here's my version of the story:

I finally got a clear track after being stuck behind some traffic for a few laps, and I was running pretty quickly. It was late in the day, and I was starting to feel a little (over)confident. I got a good run off turn 7 and carried 8-11 flat out, so I was going quite a bit faster than usual down the *extremely* bumpy back straight. I missed my braking point by a split second, coupled w/ my higher speed, I just ran out of room into 12. I got slowed way down before going off, and I went off in a pretty smooth line, so it wasn't all that bad.

There are about a million things I could have done to have made the turn once I realized I was in too deep, but in the heat of the moment, I fell back on the wrong instinct. Since I was essentially trail braking into the corner w/ no hope of making it, I probably could have just gotten on the throttle to turn the car, and lightly drifted around the outside of the corner... however, if I didn't make it then, I'd be off sideways, so I'm glad I just rode it out.

My appologies to Dean... I feel bad I took your car for a little bit of an unauthorized ride. Even though I didn't break anything... I know I could have. I shouldn't have been driving so hard late on day 2... that's when you're concetration wanes... I'm proof. However, there was no damage, just a metric assload bunch of those little burr things piled into the lights/lower grill. I hit the car w/ the shop vac and got 99% of 'em out after I got back...

I've got the off on video. The best part is me realizing there's no way I'm gonna make the corner... "Ehhhhh!" You can be the judge of how bad it was once I get the video off my camera.

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:13 PM

Some picsors ...

How Matt gets going in the morning

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:14 PM

Some amazing machinery showed up

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:15 PM

Soooo haawwwt!

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:16 PM

These guys were fast! 150 - 160 mph at the end of the front straight!

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:18 PM

Zach supervising the saturday night brake bleed session

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:19 PM

Get out of my way!

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:21 PM

Patrice is on a mission from god

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:23 PM

I'll take two of these

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:25 PM

Some parts of the track are a bit overgrown these days. Luckily sperry's lawn service was on the case

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:26 PM

That's all for now ... time for scott/matt/eric to post some video footage!

MikeK · 2005-05-29, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

Stuff about brake fade

I think you are definately onto something there. There is no doubt whatsoever that I could be a lot smoother. I remember Dean from the audi club saying pretty much the same thing at thunderhill. But forget about 6-8", I was regularly missing apexes and braking points by several feet throughout both days!

But I still need to find a hardware solution that will last me until I learn to smooth things out.

qksubi · 2005-05-30, 06:56 AM

SECCS track domination

qksubi · 2005-05-30, 07:16 AM

Mike and I hanging it out

bruspeed · 2005-05-30, 08:19 AM

Wow guys! That looked like an awesome time! the pics are great, sounds like there were some adventures, and everyone was safe. Excellent.

doubleurx · 2005-05-30, 08:37 AM

Yes that was an awesome time. Dean your car is fine. Scott did a great job and was right back on course. I was behind him, it looked scary and the in car video is classic.

My brakes are toast! That was a blast though. I can't wait to get out there in two weeks again. I hope our group is placed together again.......Dean? It would probably be safer that way....ha ha!

doubleurx · 2005-05-30, 08:51 AM

There was a photographer there that got tons of shots of all of us. He sold us the CD for both days for $35. The pics are great, but the video should be intense.

tysonK · 2005-05-30, 09:11 AM

I think you were looking for this picture Nick:

MattR · 2005-05-30, 09:12 AM

Awesome. I had a great time, and felt like I drove pretty well. Video on the way.

tysonK · 2005-05-30, 09:15 AM

some more:

doubleurx · 2005-05-30, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tysonK

I think you were looking for this picture Nick:

OWNED!

tysonK · 2005-05-30, 09:23 AM

Matt in total hauling awesomeness:

sorry little blurry.

dknv · 2005-05-30, 09:25 AM

Looks like good times!
How was the track surface, how was the organization of the event? Did you guys feel like you had plenty of track time?

tysonK · 2005-05-30, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dknv

Looks like good times!
How was the track surface, how was the organization of the event? Did you guys feel like you had plenty of track time?

Surface was pretty bad in some some spots like the straight entering 12.

I felt like I had lots of track time before my car went out of comission.

tysonK · 2005-05-30, 09:30 AM

thanks to carrie for those front straight pictures. The one of scott turned out prefect in focus! Which is hard to do with that camera at those speeds!

doubleurx · 2005-05-30, 09:32 AM

The track is very bumpy. It was more difficult to brake into turn 1 than it was to actually go in at over 100mph. The back straight is terrible. You need to stay in the middle, unless you want to bounce around at 120! Even though it is so uneven, it is still a blast. Definately want to set the suspension even softer next time.

We had plenty of track time. I think everyone was exhausted by the end.

Overall it was a great weekend. Can't wait for the next one.

2005-05-24, 06:38 PM	#52
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	According to the TMR policy, you have to cancel 15 days prior for a refund. I didn't bother to contact Doug about getting a refund, since I'm sure the answer would be "we don't have anyone on the waiting list, so we can't give you a refund." __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2005-05-25, 12:31 AM	#54
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Eh, didn't have all info. Sucks balls for you guys. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2005-05-25, 09:38 AM	#56
Pat R. EJ251 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southeast Hades Posts: 593 Car: Red Class: Stockish ¿Quién es tu padre?	So who is still going? __________________ Movin' to Montana soon, gonna be a dental floss tycoon.

2005-05-25, 02:32 PM	#63
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Sweet , Dean, you are a true friend, awesome work...I think you'll be damn fast in the RX-8 anyway though.. Also, I'm signed up to run Saturday and Sunday, but I will likely only run for an hour or two sunday, as i have to get somewhere in the afternoon. I will have the Titan, so if anyone needs anything hauled out there, you'll need to run it by my house Friday night. I am personally taking a spare set of tires, the easy up, 15 gallons of gas. But I should have some room for a few more things if anyone needs.. oh, is anyone going to try to make early registration Friday night? I think it would be a good idea to do that. any thoughts? __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2005-05-25, 02:34 PM	#64
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	I prolly won't make early reg. I'll prolly have some stuff for the Titan as well... a set of rims (though they prolly fit in the car okay) and some gas... but I'll try to make it fit in the WRX 1st. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2005-05-24, 06:07 PM	#51
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	That sucks! First scott, now you

2005-05-25, 12:15 PM	#60
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Wow, nice Job! Dean, what are you going to drive at Hawethorne? p.s. White > *

2005-05-25, 02:35 PM	#65
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	That would be to much driving for me Friday. I will just haul out there Saturday morning. Thanks for the offer on hauling stuff.

2005-05-26, 08:46 AM	#66
MikeSTI EJ205 Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,354 Car: 2004 STi Class: TSM I can't complain	so is there still a brake bleed Friday night??????? __________________ Cobb Stage 2

2005-05-26, 09:00 AM	#67
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Dean already bled his brakes recently, and I just swapped out to my race pads, so I think the red WRX is good to go. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2005-05-27, 07:25 PM	#69
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	Me and Matt went and got the gas! So ready for pit stop re-fuel action tommorow.

2005-05-29, 09:03 PM	#71
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	It was a lot of fun, and VERY fast. We were easily the fastest cars in our run group. By the end of today Eric was beating us all. We should have a lot of good video footage from the two days. On a related note, my brakes sucked. Nick, Eric and I all suffered bad brake fade. Eric and I ended up bleeding again saturday night, which helped for a session or two, but now my pedal is almost to the floor again, and my rotors are warped or have pad material stuck to them or something Tyson got a hole in a radiator hose on saturday. We thought it was just a loose clamp, so a few zip ties later he was back out on the track, but when it became clear what was wrong he had to sit the rest of the day out. Scott went on an off-roading adventure ... the video of that should be good. Overall an awesome event. It is amazing how much speed everyone picked up from saturday morning to sunday afternoon. In the first session I was braking to about 90 mph for turns 1-4 ... by the end of today we weren't even lifting, going in at 120 - 125 mph! I can't wait to hear the instructor reactions at the audi club event in 2 weeks I just hope I can find a solution to the brake problem in time!

2005-05-29, 10:07 PM	#74
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I can't speak to the Ferrodos, but I tend to run High performance street pads, and seldom have brake fade. Even on my stock brakes, I knew how far I could push them. I have not riden with you on a track recently, so don't know where you are in your learning, but, I have a guess as to what is happening.... I'll get into it more in the morning when I'm more awake, but what you are running into now is the resource wall. Your car only has so much to give, and you are asking it to do to much, just like pushing in a corner does to the tires. Fast is easy. Stand on the pedal. Turning is pretty easy. Consistantly putting the car withing 4-6"s of where you want it, being smooth and managing your car's resources are the next steps and are harder. A pasenger in your car should have little sensation of when your foot comes on and off the brakes as you enter and exit a braking zone. They will know you braked because of the pressure on the belts, and the deceleration, but the actual transition points will be hard to pinpoint. You caused the brake fade, not your brakes, or the fluid, or the pads. I doubt there is a brake system, even F1 Carbon-carbons that cannot be overworked. Look at the WRC drivers. They have puny brakes compared to yours, yet they last 2 or more stages of some of the hardest driving imagineable. Heck, they can loose only tenths of seconds due to poor brake performance by managing what little they have left. You may be surprised with how fast you go when you smooth things out... Edit: Sorry if this sounded preachy. I'm tired. All I'm trying to say is that the fix may not to be the car, but to how you are driving it, or a combination of the two. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids... Last edited by Dean; 2005-05-29 at 10:11 PM.

2005-05-29, 10:13 PM	#76
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Some picsors ... How Matt gets going in the morning Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-29, 10:14 PM	#77
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Some amazing machinery showed up Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-29, 10:15 PM	#78
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Soooo haawwwt! Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-29, 10:16 PM	#79
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	These guys were fast! 150 - 160 mph at the end of the front straight! Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-29, 10:18 PM	#80
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Zach supervising the saturday night brake bleed session Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-29, 10:19 PM	#81
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Get out of my way! Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-29, 10:21 PM	#82
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Patrice is on a mission from god Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-29, 10:23 PM	#83
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	I'll take two of these Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-29, 10:25 PM	#84
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Some parts of the track are a bit overgrown these days. Luckily sperry's lawn service was on the case Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-29, 10:26 PM	#85
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	That's all for now ... time for scott/matt/eric to post some video footage!

2005-05-30, 06:56 AM	#87
qksubi Assault Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 996 Car: 13 Sti Hatch Satin white Class: TBSP/TT-2 Aim for the EYES!	SECCS track domination Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-30, 07:16 AM	#88
qksubi Assault Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 996 Car: 13 Sti Hatch Satin white Class: TBSP/TT-2 Aim for the EYES!	Mike and I hanging it out Attached Thumbnails

2005-05-30, 08:19 AM	#89
bruspeed EJ251 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sparks Posts: 526 Car: 2005 2.5 rs cgm Class: TDSP	Wow guys! That looked like an awesome time! the pics are great, sounds like there were some adventures, and everyone was safe. Excellent. __________________ Can anybody fly this thing?

2005-05-30, 08:37 AM	#90
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	Yes that was an awesome time. Dean your car is fine. Scott did a great job and was right back on course. I was behind him, it looked scary and the in car video is classic. My brakes are toast! That was a blast though. I can't wait to get out there in two weeks again. I hope our group is placed together again.......Dean? It would probably be safer that way....ha ha!

2005-05-30, 08:51 AM	#91
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	There was a photographer there that got tons of shots of all of us. He sold us the CD for both days for $35. The pics are great, but the video should be intense. Attached Images

2005-05-30, 09:11 AM	#92
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	I think you were looking for this picture Nick:

2005-05-30, 09:12 AM	#93
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Awesome. I had a great time, and felt like I drove pretty well. Video on the way. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2005-05-30, 09:15 AM	#94
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	some more:

2005-05-30, 09:23 AM	#96
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	Matt in total hauling awesomeness: sorry little blurry.

2005-05-30, 09:25 AM	#97
dknv EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 39n53, 119w90 Posts: 2,698 Car: RX-8 Class: CS maybe	Looks like good times! How was the track surface, how was the organization of the event? Did you guys feel like you had plenty of track time?

2005-05-30, 09:30 AM	#99
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	thanks to carrie for those front straight pictures. The one of scott turned out prefect in focus! Which is hard to do with that camera at those speeds!

2005-05-30, 09:32 AM	#100
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	The track is very bumpy. It was more difficult to brake into turn 1 than it was to actually go in at over 100mph. The back straight is terrible. You need to stay in the middle, unless you want to bounce around at 120! Even though it is so uneven, it is still a blast. Definately want to set the suspension even softer next time. We had plenty of track time. I think everyone was exhausted by the end. Overall it was a great weekend. Can't wait for the next one.