F1 Season 2012! - Page 2 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Nick Koan · 2012-02-01, 10:09 AM

McLaren MP4-27

with more pics
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-photos...studio-images/
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-photos...february-2012/
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...2/2/12967.html

sperry · 2012-02-01, 10:12 AM

Boy, Sutil has really spiraled into oblivion, hasn't he?

- Loses his seat at Force India
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...-says-manager/

- Gets convicted of assault and grievous bodily harm for stabbing Eric Lux with a broken glass
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...jail-sentence/

- Calls Hamilton "a coward" for not testifying at the trial (even though McLaren apparently prevented him from attending)
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...oward-comment/

I used to have a lot of respect for Sutil... good driver, and apparently all-around awesome guy... WTH happened?

Nick Koan · 2012-02-01, 10:20 AM

This might be why Sutil was having such trouble finding a drive this year.

sperry · 2012-02-01, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

This might be why Sutil was having such trouble finding a drive this year.

Chicken and egg.

Bob Danger · 2012-02-01, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

I used to have a lot of respect for Sutil... good driver, and apparently all-around awesome guy... WTH happened?

He stabbed a man with a broken beer bottle, and called Hamilton a coward. Am I the only one who thinks that's freaking awesome!

sperry · 2012-02-01, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Danger

He stabbed a man with a broken beer bottle, and called Hamilton a coward. Am I the only one who thinks that's freaking awesome!

Actually, when you put it that way... Winning a bar fight with a stabbing and calling out an F1 world champ does sound a lot cooler than getting convicted of hurting someone when you were just trying to throw a drink in their face and losing a long time friend because work kept him from making it to your trial.

Bob Danger · 2012-02-02, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Actually, when you put it that way... Winning a bar fight with a stabbing and calling out an F1 world champ does sound a lot cooler than getting convicted of hurting someone when you were just trying to throw a drink in their face and losing a long time friend because work kept him from making it to your trial.

The truth is depressing, I like mine better.

van · 2012-02-02, 02:18 PM

http://ff1.seccs.org/ ?

sperry · 2012-02-02, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by van

http://ff1.seccs.org/ ?

I'll be putting up the new season eventually. There's some work to be done yet.

van · 2012-02-02, 02:53 PM

Cool, I was hoping I would get to donate again.

Nick Koan · 2012-02-03, 07:58 AM

More new cars!

Force India VJM05

Its got the duck nose too. And a moustache.

More: http://www.f1technical.net/gallery/Force-India/VJM05

Nick Koan · 2012-02-03, 07:59 AM

Ferrari F2012

Also opting for that stepped nose config

More: http://www.f1technical.net/news/17015

sperry · 2012-02-03, 09:39 AM

Ugh. The duck noses are silly looking. That's because of a rule change to the max height of the nose, right? So instead of making a clean transition to the new rule height, they just took the existing cockpit height and wedged it down?

Nick Koan · 2012-02-03, 10:38 AM

Yes, the nose height step is due to new regs on maximum height of the nose front of the front axel or something.

McLaren shaved off the underside of the nose to meet the regs, and looks much nicer. I guess we'll have to wait and see which one actually performs better.

EDIT: The more I look at it, the more I can't believe Ferrari let such an ugly nose out the door. The FI and the Caterham cars are bad, but the Ferrari looks even worse.

EDIT 2: Reading this. Found this quote from Ferrari amusing
http://adamcooperf1.com/2012/02/03/f...ally-pleasing/

Quote:

“The nose has a step in it that is not aesthetically pleasing. With the requirement from the regulations to lower the front part, this was a way of raising the bottom part of the chassis as much as possible for aerodynamic reasons. The sides have been redesigned, through modifications to the side impact structures, the repositioning of the radiators and revisions to all aerodynamic elements."

Nick Koan · 2012-02-05, 08:36 AM

Lotus E20

From this angle the stepped duck nose doesn't look so bad.

If you are up for a 20+ minute launch video, you can watch this.

YouTube

Nick Koan · 2012-02-06, 07:14 AM

Sauber C31

I have no words.

Nick Koan · 2012-02-06, 07:17 AM

Red Bull RB8

This nose doesn't look too bad (compared to the field). It also looks like they are going to use the step for some sort of duct work.

This sort video shows off the whole car

http://www.redbullracing.com/cs/Sate...21243158945543

Kevin M · 2012-02-06, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Sauber C31

I have no words.

"Open up and say ahhhh" comes to mind.

Nick Koan · 2012-02-07, 09:55 AM

And now the Williams FW34

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-photos...february-2012/

sperry · 2012-02-07, 10:11 AM

These noses keep reminding me of Villenuve's Ferrari.

Nick Koan · 2012-02-17, 08:21 AM

A few weeks ago when I was talking with Scott, I remember saying something like "I'm curious as to why Trulli still has a drive when there are all these quick youngsters like Petrov looking for a drive"

Well, I guess I'm not the only one to think that way. Caterham agrees.

http://en.espnf1.com/caterham/motors...ory/70550.html

sperry · 2012-02-17, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

A few weeks ago when I was talking with Scott, I remember saying something like "I'm curious as to why Trulli still has a drive when there are all these quick youngsters like Petrov looking for a drive"

Well, I guess I'm not the only one to think that way. Caterham agrees.

http://en.espnf1.com/caterham/motors...ory/70550.html

Well, that makes tons of sense to me... but I wonder how long before Trulli sues Caterham over a contract breach. You know, because suing for your job always works out so well in F1.

Nick Koan · 2012-02-21, 07:26 AM

The Mercedes W03

sperry · 2012-02-21, 10:19 AM

Wow, that is dramatic! Is that why they delayed showing the car? To give red bull less time to copy it before the season starts?

I guess I don't hate I as much as the rest of the cars.

sperry · 2012-02-29, 06:31 PM

FF1 2012 season is open for registration! http://ff1.seccs.org

2012-02-01, 10:09 AM	#26
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	McLaren MP4-27 with more pics http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-photos...studio-images/ http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-photos...february-2012/ http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...2/2/12967.html Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2012-02-01, 10:12 AM	#27
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Boy, Sutil has really spiraled into oblivion, hasn't he? - Loses his seat at Force India http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...-says-manager/ - Gets convicted of assault and grievous bodily harm for stabbing Eric Lux with a broken glass http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...jail-sentence/ - Calls Hamilton "a coward" for not testifying at the trial (even though McLaren apparently prevented him from attending) http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...oward-comment/ I used to have a lot of respect for Sutil... good driver, and apparently all-around awesome guy... WTH happened? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2012-02-01, 10:20 AM	#28
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	This might be why Sutil was having such trouble finding a drive this year. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2012-02-03, 07:58 AM	#36
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	More new cars! Force India VJM05 Its got the duck nose too. And a moustache. More: http://www.f1technical.net/gallery/Force-India/VJM05 Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2012-02-03, 07:59 AM	#37
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Ferrari F2012 Also opting for that stepped nose config More: http://www.f1technical.net/news/17015 Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2012-02-02, 02:18 PM	#33
van SECCS Brewmeister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: on the edge of a marsh Posts: 1,451	http://ff1.seccs.org/ ?

2012-02-02, 02:53 PM	#35
van SECCS Brewmeister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: on the edge of a marsh Posts: 1,451	Cool, I was hoping I would get to donate again.

2012-02-03, 09:39 AM	#38
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Ugh. The duck noses are silly looking. That's because of a rule change to the max height of the nose, right? So instead of making a clean transition to the new rule height, they just took the existing cockpit height and wedged it down? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2012-02-06, 07:14 AM	#41
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Sauber C31 I have no words. Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2012-02-06, 07:17 AM	#42
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Red Bull RB8 This nose doesn't look too bad (compared to the field). It also looks like they are going to use the step for some sort of duct work. This sort video shows off the whole car http://www.redbullracing.com/cs/Sate...21243158945543 Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2012-02-07, 09:55 AM	#44
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	And now the Williams FW34 http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-photos...february-2012/ Attached Thumbnails __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2012-02-07, 10:11 AM	#45
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	These noses keep reminding me of Villenuve's Ferrari. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints? Last edited by sperry; 2012-02-17 at 10:20 AM.

2012-02-17, 08:21 AM	#46
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	A few weeks ago when I was talking with Scott, I remember saying something like "I'm curious as to why Trulli still has a drive when there are all these quick youngsters like Petrov looking for a drive" Well, I guess I'm not the only one to think that way. Caterham agrees. http://en.espnf1.com/caterham/motors...ory/70550.html __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2012-02-21, 07:26 AM	#48
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	The Mercedes W03 Attached Thumbnails Attached Images __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN Last edited by Nick Koan; 2012-02-21 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Update with close-up of the nose.

2012-02-21, 10:19 AM	#49
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Wow, that is dramatic! Is that why they delayed showing the car? To give red bull less time to copy it before the season starts? I guess I don't hate I as much as the rest of the cars. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2012-02-29, 06:31 PM	#50
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	FF1 2012 season is open for registration! http://ff1.seccs.org __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

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