CEL P0301 what should i do ?

[A1337STI]

So i should quit motor sports if i want to buy the extended warentee. okay.

[cody]

SOA/stealerships have denied warantee claims due to "abuse"...the extended warranty would be a gamble.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by A1337STI

So i should quit motor sports if i want to buy the extended warentee. okay.

If you'd like your extended warranty to be honored w/o a hassle, yeah you probably shouldn't be racing it, especially off-road.

Cody, I would agree w/ SOA if they considered rally-cross "abuse". Rally is pretty much the harshest thing you can do to a car. I agree, they'll sometimes toe the line by saying stuff like "you drive it too hard, we can tell by your tires", or denying warranty work because the car was autocrossed once... but if Alex (or anyone else) is actively rallying the car... well, it's time to suck it up and realize you're going to break something, and it's going to be your fault.

[cody]

Well I won't argue with you on this age old topic. RallyX is abuse, but I think AutoX is actually harder on the internal workings of the drivetrain due to the extra traction the tires have. So while you are more likely to break suspension and steering components while RallyXing, I think you're more likely to blow diferential/tranny components while AutoXing. Then again, there was a blue WRX at the AutoX that broke steeing knuckle or some damn thing that left his wheel all cockeyed this weekend.

Additionally, I don't have any ethical issues with the way SOA denies claims on truly abused cars, but to include an invitation to a free SCCA membership with the car and then deny a claim when the customer takes SOA up on it does seem fucked up if you ask me.

I'd like to think that one positive result of all of the warrantee claims SOA foots the bill for is that they turn around and increase their quality. From what I hear, the MY06 WRX tranny is much improved upon, as it has been almost every year since it's intro in the US.

[A1337STI]

In terms of hitting bumps, pot holes/ Ruts. My car hasn't had a tougher drive then going back and forth to the ski resorts. I recall one drive where i was being Bounced quite viciously becuase of the odd way the snow drifts were forming up on the road. I might have slowed down if i hadn't been thinking "out of all the cars sold in the world, this is probably the best car to be driving quickly over a snowy public road" i was never at a loss for control, but if i had attempted to drink coffee out of a mug, i'de be missing large pieces of my teeth.

[btw they run a Grader over the rallyx course before anyone drives on it , i think Kahle drive (the road i live on in tahoe) is much worse for your suspension then the rallyx course, infact i won't drive over 20 mph on kahle cuase its so damn bad]

I was under the speed limit , under 4K rpms and in control. IF that's abuse then that's what i did on a public road under the speed limit. if that's Okay [ie not abuse], then the autox course was a joke by comparison in terms of suspension useage.

the courses i've driven, autox has been much harsher for rpms, either its the courses or my lack of good driving, but i didn't go over 6400 rpms the whole weekend. , and the 1 day prior event there was only one spot where i could have hit red line but i shifted into 2nd instead.

and yes Cody i actually have 3 offers to join the SCCA included with my car into (right before the warentee packet ) it starts off with 'thanks for purchasing a high performance impreza, we think you should race it blah blah blah ... '

and the First CEL, rough engine roughing happened before i ever went out to a rallyx (but after some autox) all the times the CEL has come on, strangly has been right when i started the car in a parking lot. the last time i was at wallmart and i didn't even get a chance to put the car into reverse. just a key in. clutch down, turn key, look left , look right, oh nice CEL is on (*joke* course maybe i'm starting the car incorrectly /*joke*)

I don't know which one is harder on engine or suspension or tires or what. I do know that the car is advertised by seeing a car drive quickly, so i feel perfectly fine driving it quickly and then taking it in for warentee if it fails to drive quickly with out breaking down on me.

Had i gone for an AP upped my boost and blew the turbo / engine then i'de be a big dick to try and get it fixed on SOA.
if i drove it , never kept the rpms above 6k for more then 10 seconds at a time, and it broke on me, that's their bad. if it cant' handle more then 5K rpms they should put the fucking rev limiter lower. I've been honest with them, Told Jerry when i had the K&N, told him last time i took it in i went back to the stock breather box , but with no silencer. (he's the service manager) he said that wouldn't have cuased a problem. and he told me he has no problem with people buying a 35K car and driving it fast and that if it breaks and he's told the guy was doing 120 he would still fix it, cuase its a sports car.

okay yeah i'm just pissy cuase i have a mini van for a rental
<-- point and laugh!

[sperry]

Driving fast != racing. Driving on bumpy roads != rally. If that's how you justify claiming damage under warranty so you sleep better at night, good for you, but people that race their cars then claim the damage they've caused are the people that make it a nightmare for everyone else to get warranty work done.

I'm not saying that your problem is necessarily caused by autocross or rallycross, if it's not it should be covered. I'm just saying that you're walking a really thin moral line by rallying that thing and acting like Subaru owes you if it breaks. I'd suggest if you want to rally, get a truck, trailer, and used rally car, and have at it. Or, suck it up and realize that when your STI breaks (and it will) it's your bill, not Subaru's. Pay to play. IMO, anything more than the occational autocross or driver's ed track day is outside of what the car was intended for.

[A1337STI]

The problem existed when i first posted about it.

Before i went to a rallyx event. But since you know everything, yes the driving event presented by subaru western Region , that i attended AFTER the problem showed up, cuased the problem. (time warp right?) And i'm a Total Dick for making SOA foot the repair bills of an STI was that driven fast .

And its Highly immoral to attend an SCCA function with a car that hands out fliers for them, and to expect any warentee coverage. I think i finally figured it out !

[sperry]

Originally Posted by A1337STI

The problem existed when i first posted about it.

Before i went to a rallyx event. But since you know everything, yes the driving event presented by subaru western Region , that i attended AFTER the problem showed up, cuased the problem. (time warp right?) And i'm a Total Dick for making SOA foot the repair bills of an STI was that driven fast .

And its Highly immoral to attend an SCCA function with a car that hands out fliers for them, and to expect any warentee coverage. I think i finally figured it out !

You have no reading comprehension. Arguing with you is a waste of time because you can't take the time to understand what's been written.

[A1337STI]

oh the irony of it all.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by A1337STI

oh the irony of it all.

I know you think you know what I'm saying, but your replies indicate that you're missing the point. Every time I post something, I have to get insulted by you then explain myself 5 times for you to understand what I'm saying. After which, you still don't get what I'm saying. Which is why you're going to end up posting a thread in here with "SOA denied my repair and now I owe them $1200!!", and I'm going to laugh.

I have to wonder, why do you bother to ask questions at all if you're just going to stick you fingers in your ears and scream insults at anyone that has an opinion at all different than yours? Especially when you do it to the people that have years more experience at this stuff than you. I know I'm done wasting my time trying to explain things.

[A1337STI]

Fa Show Bro !

yes you posted a few helpful tid bits, and thank you for that. And sorry about getting a bit emtional over my car having issues After 19K miles and a few autocrosses. but your posts appeared to me , that you thought i wanted to buy the extended warentee to compete in stage rallies and that i would expect SOA to honor the warentee.

That is not the case. I want to attend the occasional driver school, and Solo Crosses (tarmac , rain or shine, snow, or dirt solo cross event)

I wanted advice and support about my issue. I got some advice, and some support from many THANK YOU, Cory , Cody, Ansel, and others. you gave me some advice and some grief. Its your car club, you can set any example you want for others

Originally Posted by sperry

Which is why you're going to end up posting a thread in here with "SOA denied my repair and now I owe them $1200!!", and I'm going to laugh.

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I just hope they don't follow your example. (not that i'm the example to follow myself)