Coils vs springs debacle - Page 4 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Kevin M · 2009-06-09, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxkidid

We were trying to figure that out yesterday.

The manual is in german so from what we could figure the best it was 9 kg front 9.5 kg rear but that might be really really wrong.

Way, way wrong. That's 500 front, 550 rear give or take a bit.

van · 2009-06-09, 08:03 PM

yeah 9kg is 19.84160359664 lbs, I think my 79 Impala had those spring rates. I think 100%juicifer can read german , pm him for help.

Dean · 2009-06-09, 08:16 PM

9kg/mm and 9.5kg/mm or 500lb/in and 550lb/in sounds about right for a performance coilover, just backwards. I would expect the fronts to be stiffer than the rears.

Kevin M · 2009-06-09, 09:03 PM

Variant 1s are not truly "performance" coilovers though, they're just meant as a means for proper ride height reduction. That's stiffer than the Variant 3s IIRC. I would say that 5k/4k is more appropriate for that setup, though I agree that very few designers would put stiffer rear springs in.

cody · 2009-06-09, 09:36 PM

ESP should be more interesting now. You're coming to the GSR autox, yes?

wrxkidid · 2009-06-10, 12:07 AM

Nick said he thought he read somewhere on the all knowing interweb about 400lbs one end then i dunno the other so im probably way wrong. Either way they are sick coils for the price, very good quality, cool colors, and relatively easy to install/adjust, even though it tookk us like 8 tries to get it even all the way around. i want to see how it settles and how the ride height ends up.

MattR · 2009-06-10, 05:12 AM

kw's North american website has a spring rate guide somewhere.

http://www.kw-suspension.com/en/30_P...nder/index.php

WRX06TR · 2009-06-10, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

ESP should be more interesting now. You're coming to the GSR autox, yes?

Most definitely! I can't miss out on the GSR event and I have to give these coils a proper break in. Its the 27th and 28th right?

cody · 2009-06-10, 10:28 AM

Yup!

2009-06-09, 08:16 PM	#78
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	9kg/mm and 9.5kg/mm or 500lb/in and 550lb/in sounds about right for a performance coilover, just backwards. I would expect the fronts to be stiffer than the rears. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids... Last edited by Dean; 2009-06-09 at 08:23 PM.

2009-06-09, 09:03 PM	#79
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Variant 1s are not truly "performance" coilovers though, they're just meant as a means for proper ride height reduction. That's stiffer than the Variant 3s IIRC. I would say that 5k/4k is more appropriate for that setup, though I agree that very few designers would put stiffer rear springs in. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-06-09, 09:36 PM	#80
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	ESP should be more interesting now. You're coming to the GSR autox, yes? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-06-10, 12:07 AM	#81
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	Nick said he thought he read somewhere on the all knowing interweb about 400lbs one end then i dunno the other so im probably way wrong. Either way they are sick coils for the price, very good quality, cool colors, and relatively easy to install/adjust, even though it tookk us like 8 tries to get it even all the way around. i want to see how it settles and how the ride height ends up. __________________ Mosey down the road.

2009-06-10, 05:12 AM	#82
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	kw's North american website has a spring rate guide somewhere. http://www.kw-suspension.com/en/30_P...nder/index.php __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2009-06-09, 08:03 PM	#77
van SECCS Brewmeister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: on the edge of a marsh Posts: 1,451	yeah 9kg is 19.84160359664 lbs, I think my 79 Impala had those spring rates. I think 100%juicifer can read german , pm him for help.

2009-06-10, 10:28 AM	#84
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Yup! __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Finished installing STI pink springs	eggeegg	Technical Chat	25	2007-03-05 07:36 AM
Choices on Springs...	dayofpain	Technical Chat	34	2005-06-24 05:44 PM
Rear springs install	sperry	General Subaru Discussion & Club Chat	29	2004-08-12 02:11 PM
Let's Talk Springs	LetItRev	Technical Chat	6	2004-08-09 05:00 PM
FS: Apex lowering springs	khail19	User Classifieds	0	2004-03-15 06:43 PM