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Old 2006-05-30, 03:19 PM   #126
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I thought port installed were considered dealer options. But something tells me I should read the rules before talking back to Dean about solo rules
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:21 PM   #127
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Yep. One of many this weekend.
Shush, I didn't know. I still have the OE shifter, so if I have to, I can reinstall it.
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:23 PM   #128
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How about a short shifter in ESP?
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:26 PM   #129
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Search the '06 rules for "port-installed"
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:27 PM   #130
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With my shifter, which is the same shifter that would have been installed on an STi in the port technically bumps me into BSP.
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:33 PM   #131
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Brian, your shifter is AS legal becaise it's a PIO. Joeyy, any mechanical shift linkage is legal for SP.
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:34 PM   #132
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I thought port installed were considered dealer options. But something tells me I should read the rules before talking back to Dean about solo rules
They were, but the Board changed it this year. Too many people were getting bumped out of stock against their wishes basically.
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:35 PM   #133
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With my shifter, which is the same shifter that would have been installed on an STi in the port technically bumps me into BSP.
Not sure if that was a question, but the answer should be no... Factory Short shifter should be legal in Stock class as it was originally Port installed in that year.
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:40 PM   #134
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They were, but the Board changed it this year. Too many people were getting bumped out of stock against their wishes basically.
Port installed have been legal for a long time... Form 2004 rule book which is the oldest PDF I have handy:
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The following items are port-installed options on the Subaru WRX, are
listed when installed on the vehicle’s window sticker, and pending
evidence to the conrary are considered legal: carbon fiber trim, turbo
boost gauge, titanium shift knob, short throw shifter, rear diff protector,
spoilers, arm rest extension.
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:42 PM   #135
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Where is that Dean? I don't remember ever reading make/model specific rulesets.
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:43 PM   #136
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Where is that Dean? I don't remember ever reading make/model specific rulesets.
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Search the '06 rules for "port-installed"
Same text is in teh 06 rule book as well.
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Old 2006-05-30, 03:44 PM   #137
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Where is that Dean? I don't remember ever reading make/model specific rulesets.
Stock class clarifications, page 263 2004 rule book.
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Old 2006-05-30, 04:01 PM   #138
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wtf does everyone mean by 'port installed' ? like it got installed at the port of entry when the car came off the boat from Japan (didn't think so) so what exactly ?
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Old 2006-05-30, 04:03 PM   #139
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Yeah, when it gets installed at the port. Not the factory or the dealership.
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wtf does everyone mean by 'port installed' ? like it got installed at the port of entry when the car came off the boat from Japan (didn't think so) so what exactly ?

You've never been to Benicia on a day when a boat has unloaded have you? There's a big pier, and next to it is a gigantic parking lot. For many import manufacturers, in between the parking lot and the car hauler that goes to teh dealer, they go into a warehouse type thing where many cars get parts installed or replaced.
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wtf does everyone mean by 'port installed' ? like it got installed at the port of entry when the car came off the boat from Japan (didn't think so) so what exactly ?
Port - installed

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Old 2006-05-30, 06:44 PM   #142
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I like the hyphen link.
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The hyphen is the butter in that particular word sandwich.
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Not sure if that was a question, but the answer should be no... Factory Short shifter should be legal in Stock class as it was originally Port installed in that year.
Here is the problem, the dealer installed it for me because they couldn't locate on for me with it already installed. Basically, my car came off the boat without a short throw shifter in it. I had them install it.

So, is it still legal in AS?
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Here is the problem, the dealer installed it for me because they couldn't locate on for me with it already installed. Basically, my car came off the boat without a short throw shifter in it. I had them install it.

So, is it still legal in AS?
Yes. It was available as a "factory" option. It does not have to be on your specific invoice to be legal.
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the install options in some warehouse right next to the port ?
hmm.

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Yes. It was available as a "factory" option. It does not have to be on your specific invoice to be legal.
I'd tread carefully on this issue:

Top of page 230 of the 2006 Rules, says, 'The following items are port-installed options on the Subaru WRX, are listed when installed on the vehicle's window sticker, and pending evidence to the contrary are considered legal: carbon fiber trim, turbo boost gauge, titanium shift knob, short throw shifter, rear diff protector, spoilers, arm rest extension.'

Also, 3.8 talks about having required manufacturer's documentation, including the Monroney window sticker.

I would not think this was something to worry about at a regional event. However, if you are at a divisional or national event, and if you are winning, you should be prepared to support anything on the vehicle that may be open for question.
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the install options in some warehouse right next to the port ?
hmm.

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Yeah, at the port. In a building, or not in a building, on the property that is considered the port of entry for that vehicle.
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Old 2006-05-31, 06:28 AM   #149
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I'd tread carefully on this issue:

Top of page 230 of the 2006 Rules, says, 'The following items are port-installed options on the Subaru WRX, are listed when installed on the vehicle's window sticker, and pending evidence to the contrary are considered legal: carbon fiber trim, turbo boost gauge, titanium shift knob, short throw shifter, rear diff protector, spoilers, arm rest extension.'

Also, 3.8 talks about having required manufacturer's documentation, including the Monroney window sticker.

I would not think this was something to worry about at a regional event. However, if you are at a divisional or national event, and if you are winning, you should be prepared to support anything on the vehicle that may be open for question.
I beleive this has been covered before, and multiple denied protests are why this language is in the rule book. Look carefully at the comma placement. They are three statements of fact seperated by commas. They are not saying that you must have them on your specific sticker to be legal, only that when installed, they appear on the sticker, which is part of the justification for calling them factory/port, not dealer installed.

Yes, 3.8 does say that, but for this specific instance, the clarification has already been made. Those parts are legal, period, on your sticker or not.
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I beleive this has been covered before, and multiple denied protests are why this language is in the rule book. Look carefully at the comma placement. They are three statements of fact seperated by commas. They are not saying that you must have them on your specific sticker to be legal, only that when installed, they appear on the sticker, which is part of the justification for calling them factory/port, not dealer installed.

Yes, 3.8 does say that, but for this specific instance, the clarification has already been made. Those parts are legal, period, on your sticker or not.
Dean, I think you're right... I couldn't remember the exact phrasing of the passage from the rule book, but after looking at it I believe it means that those options are legal on any WRX/STI as long as they're the factory bits you *could* have ordered as port-installed options.

Brian, you're off the hook IMO!
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