F1 Silly Season 2009! - Page 7 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Nick Koan · 2009-05-01, 08:28 AM

And all the new regs for budget capped teams. for operating under 40M GBP. They get constantly adjustable wings, engines with no rev limit, more powerful KERS systems, and - in theory - four-wheel drive. They will also be allowed unlimited out-of-season track testing with no restrictions on the scale and speed of wind tunnel testing.

The bugdet cap doesn't include drivers salaries, hospitality, fines/penalties, engines (for 2010 only), any expenditure which doesn't affect the championship and dividends (and taxes therein) gained from competing in the championship.

There will also now be 26 slots (13 teams) in the championship and new teams can now get $10M and free freight of 2 chassis, 10,000 kg of other freight and 20 economy class tickets to every non-European race.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9290.html

sperry · 2009-05-01, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

And all the new regs for budget capped teams. for operating under 40M GBP. They get constantly adjustable wings, engines with no rev limit, more powerful KERS systems, and - in theory - four-wheel drive. They will also be allowed unlimited out-of-season track testing with no restrictions on the scale and speed of wind tunnel testing.

The bugdet cap doesn't include drivers salaries, hospitality, fines/penalties, engines (for 2010 only), any expenditure which doesn't affect the championship and dividends (and taxes therein) gained from competing in the championship.

There will also now be 26 slots (13 teams) in the championship and new teams can now get $10M and free freight of 2 chassis, 10,000 kg of other freight and 20 economy class tickets to every non-European race.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9290.html

Well shit, that sounds so cheap! Let's pool our money and start SECCS F1!

If the budget cap doesn't include things like engines, how the hell is it a cap? Teams already spend 10's of millions on engines alone... and they'd probably spend more if they had it.

Plus the bonuses for the capped teams are hilarious... AWD? You can't develop it properly under the cost cap. Unlimited testing? Unlimited wind-tunnel use? It don't matter, you can't afford it either, 'cause you spent all your money trying to get your higher power KERS batteries reliable enough to last through qualifying. Higher rev limits? Only useful while the cap doesn't cover motor costs... but then again, if there's an 8 motor per season limit, you can't really risk spinning the motor to 20k anyway.

So really, the only thing the cappers have to combat Ferrari's $200M budget is constantly adjustable aero.

Dean · 2009-05-24, 06:38 AM

How in the hell can they start a race without telling them what the penalty for "4 wheels off" in the chicane is? That is insanity! FIA at it's best.

Nick Koan · 2009-05-29, 08:05 AM

I guess this is really more 2010 silly season stuff, but today was the deadline for 2010 entries.

Campos, USF1 and Williams all submitted applications before today. Today, the rest of the FOTA teams as well as Prodrive and Litespeed have submitted their applications. I believe that leaves 4 teams with 3 spots up for grabs.

Nick Koan · 2009-05-29, 03:45 PM

And it looks like Lola submitted their entry too.

http://www.crash.net/formula+one/new...o_the_fia.html

And there is a possibility that the Prodrive application will actually be called Aston Martin, but run by Prodrive. Looks like a deal was made with Bernie to use the Aston Martin name, basically guaranteeing them a spot on the grid.

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...enter-in-2010/

Nick Koan · 2009-05-31, 11:25 AM

And Wurz has lodged and entry (as Team Principal) for a new team called Superfund.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75753

skimonkey30 · 2009-06-06, 07:40 PM

dont forget race is on fox this weekend!

wrxkidid · 2009-06-07, 04:26 AM

Yea was definatly watching tv at midnight tonight...got all excited when i saw the F1 race then missed it cause I made an irresponsible decision...I hate college.

So if anyone has this season of the F1 races on there DVR and have a way of burning them I am down to supply the DVD-Rs and buy you dinner cause I have missed every single race because they are on at obscene hours of the night...

MattR · 2009-06-07, 08:42 AM

Its on at noon today on Fox.

wrxkidid · 2009-06-07, 01:52 PM

Me = Fail

Joeyy · 2009-06-08, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattR

Its on at noon today on Fox.

Now I know why my DVR didn't catch it.

Dean · 2009-06-08, 04:09 PM

Replay Tuesday @ 10am on speed.

Joeyy · 2009-06-08, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean

Replay Tuesday @ 10am on speed.

DVR should catch that one. Thanks Dean, you made my day.

sperry · 2009-06-10, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeyy

Now I know why my DVR didn't catch it.

My DVR couldn't find it because Fox's listings for pretty much all day Sunday were "TBD".

I had to wait for the Speed replay yesterday. Hopefully they fix their retardation before Silverstone.

Nick Koan · 2009-07-09, 11:20 AM

Here is the silliest news I've heard all season.

BrawnGP has made their own iPhone game, and playing each track you qualify on, will give you one entry into a contest to win a Mercedes SL in November.

http://www.brawngpcontest.com/

sperry · 2009-07-09, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Here is the silliest news I've heard all season.

BrawnGP has made their own iPhone game, and playing each track you qualify on, will give you one entry into a contest to win a Mercedes SL in November.

http://www.brawngpcontest.com/

That's not as silly as the current wrangling between FIA and FOTA.

FIA: "You guys win, we'll cave to your requests instead of letting you guys go off and starting your own series."
FOTA: "Thank you, we can't wait to may F1 the best it can be, and we're glad we were able to come to an agreement."
- 1 week later -
FIA: "Hey, why do you FOTA guys think you get a vote in the Technical Working Group? You're not actually accepted into the series. You're just accepted in the series as far as it takes for you not to keep planning your own series."
FOTA: "Fuck it, we're outta here."

Nick Koan · 2009-07-09, 12:56 PM

Oh yeah, that drama is just ridiculous and mean. Brawn's shenanigans are cheeky and fun.

skimonkey30 · 2009-07-11, 06:45 PM

Race is on FOX again this week FYI

sperry · 2009-07-16, 12:29 PM

So, Bourdais got fired. http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...-against-team/

Anyone know the guy rumored as taking his seat at the next race, Jaime Alguersuari? Apparently he's the British F3 champ?

Nick Koan · 2009-07-17, 09:16 AM

Now Bourdais is threatening to sue to keep his seat.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...46398&PO=46398

Cause that's worked out so well in the past...

Nick Koan · 2009-07-20, 08:27 AM

Alguersuari officially has the seat for Hungary

sperry · 2009-07-20, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Alguersuari officially has the seat for Hungary

Driver roster updated.

...though I think I need to figure out a way to note unavailable drivers with the new organization of the rosters. Unfortunately, it seems IGT has started blocking the SSL connection to the server so I can't log in to make any changes.

MikeK · 2009-07-25, 10:13 AM

Does anyone have the live timing iPhone app that they were talking about during qualifying?

I think this is the one: http://www.softpauer.com/f1app/index.html

skimonkey30 · 2009-07-25, 06:42 PM

It looks really cool but it costs 26.99 for the full version and according to the "reviews" you apparently have to pay for each race.

I think I'll just watch F1 via my dvr when i get home rather then while im walking down the street for that price.

Nick Koan · 2009-07-25, 06:45 PM

Nothing like live updates while you are sleeping.

2009-05-01, 08:28 AM	#151
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	And all the new regs for budget capped teams. for operating under 40M GBP. They get constantly adjustable wings, engines with no rev limit, more powerful KERS systems, and - in theory - four-wheel drive. They will also be allowed unlimited out-of-season track testing with no restrictions on the scale and speed of wind tunnel testing. The bugdet cap doesn't include drivers salaries, hospitality, fines/penalties, engines (for 2010 only), any expenditure which doesn't affect the championship and dividends (and taxes therein) gained from competing in the championship. There will also now be 26 slots (13 teams) in the championship and new teams can now get $10M and free freight of 2 chassis, 10,000 kg of other freight and 20 economy class tickets to every non-European race. http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9290.html __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-05-24, 06:38 AM	#153
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	How in the hell can they start a race without telling them what the penalty for "4 wheels off" in the chicane is? That is insanity! FIA at it's best. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-05-29, 08:05 AM	#154
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	I guess this is really more 2010 silly season stuff, but today was the deadline for 2010 entries. Campos, USF1 and Williams all submitted applications before today. Today, the rest of the FOTA teams as well as Prodrive and Litespeed have submitted their applications. I believe that leaves 4 teams with 3 spots up for grabs. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-05-29, 03:45 PM	#155
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	And it looks like Lola submitted their entry too. http://www.crash.net/formula+one/new...o_the_fia.html And there is a possibility that the Prodrive application will actually be called Aston Martin, but run by Prodrive. Looks like a deal was made with Bernie to use the Aston Martin name, basically guaranteeing them a spot on the grid. http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...enter-in-2010/ __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-05-31, 11:25 AM	#156
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	And Wurz has lodged and entry (as Team Principal) for a new team called Superfund. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/75753 __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-06-06, 07:40 PM	#157
skimonkey30 Mr. Romano Real Name: David Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 932 Car: 2013 F150 Class: Mellow Yellow Rubbin's Racin	dont forget race is on fox this weekend! __________________ That would be Mr. Dipshit to you.........sir

2009-06-07, 04:26 AM	#158
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	Yea was definatly watching tv at midnight tonight...got all excited when i saw the F1 race then missed it cause I made an irresponsible decision...I hate college. So if anyone has this season of the F1 races on there DVR and have a way of burning them I am down to supply the DVD-Rs and buy you dinner cause I have missed every single race because they are on at obscene hours of the night... __________________ Mosey down the road.

2009-06-07, 08:42 AM	#159
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Its on at noon today on Fox. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2009-06-07, 01:52 PM	#160
wrxkidid EJ205 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Incline Village, NV Posts: 1,232 Car: 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd. 5.7l Class: None :/ Cory, just put a 4g63 in it.	Me = Fail __________________ Mosey down the road.

2009-06-08, 04:09 PM	#162
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Replay Tuesday @ 10am on speed. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-07-09, 11:20 AM	#165
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Here is the silliest news I've heard all season. BrawnGP has made their own iPhone game, and playing each track you qualify on, will give you one entry into a contest to win a Mercedes SL in November. http://www.brawngpcontest.com/ __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-07-09, 12:56 PM	#167
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Oh yeah, that drama is just ridiculous and mean. Brawn's shenanigans are cheeky and fun. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-07-11, 06:45 PM	#168
skimonkey30 Mr. Romano Real Name: David Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 932 Car: 2013 F150 Class: Mellow Yellow Rubbin's Racin	Race is on FOX again this week FYI __________________ That would be Mr. Dipshit to you.........sir

2009-07-16, 12:29 PM	#169
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	So, Bourdais got fired. http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/...-against-team/ Anyone know the guy rumored as taking his seat at the next race, Jaime Alguersuari? Apparently he's the British F3 champ? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2009-07-17, 09:16 AM	#170
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Now Bourdais is threatening to sue to keep his seat. http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...46398&PO=46398 Cause that's worked out so well in the past... __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-07-20, 08:27 AM	#171
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Alguersuari officially has the seat for Hungary __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-07-25, 10:13 AM	#173
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Does anyone have the live timing iPhone app that they were talking about during qualifying? I think this is the one: http://www.softpauer.com/f1app/index.html Last edited by MikeK; 2009-07-25 at 10:20 AM.

2009-07-25, 06:42 PM	#174
skimonkey30 Mr. Romano Real Name: David Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 932 Car: 2013 F150 Class: Mellow Yellow Rubbin's Racin	It looks really cool but it costs 26.99 for the full version and according to the "reviews" you apparently have to pay for each race. I think I'll just watch F1 via my dvr when i get home rather then while im walking down the street for that price. __________________ That would be Mr. Dipshit to you.........sir Last edited by skimonkey30; 2009-07-25 at 06:45 PM.

2009-07-25, 06:45 PM	#175
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Nothing like live updates while you are sleeping. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

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