Swine Flu in Washoe - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Nick Koan · 2009-04-29, 10:10 AM

http://www.rgj.com/article/20090429/...m/breakingnews

First confirmed case in Nevada is a 2 year old in Washoe County.

Kid is doing fine, everyone please panic now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASibLqwVbsk

sperry · 2009-04-29, 10:22 AM

*cough* *cough* *oink*

k-dogg39 · 2009-04-29, 10:31 AM

I just saw this on the news.

cody · 2009-04-29, 10:35 AM

I had pork chops on Monday night and have been having ham on my bagel every morning. Delicious!

Nick Koan · 2009-04-29, 10:38 AM

I heard the best way to inoculate yourself is to get as many pig products into your diet as you can. Eventually, you will build up a resistance to swine related viruses.

cody · 2009-04-29, 10:41 AM

Sounds intoxicating. :drool:

Nick Koan · 2009-04-29, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cody

Sounds intoxicating. :drool:

I'm going to go make a bacon, ham and pulled pork sandwich with baconaise for lunch.

And a side of ranch.

TrueNative · 2009-04-29, 10:48 AM

Bird flu.....Swine flu.....
I will hold off panic till the Donkey flu arrives.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-04-29, 11:09 AM

I have had the swine flu for years. The Dr. told me that the only cure is diet and exercise. I am just happy that I am a survivor and still here to tell the tale.

k-dogg39 · 2009-04-29, 11:13 AM

TrueNative · 2009-04-29, 11:23 AM

^^ LOL
Bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good.

cody · 2009-04-29, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by k-dogg39

So timely!!! Love it!

WRX06TR · 2009-04-29, 12:30 PM

**eating ham sandwich as I type**

Nick Koan · 2009-04-29, 12:51 PM

I can't stop laughing.

skimonkey30 · 2009-04-29, 12:59 PM

SteveM · 2009-04-29, 02:10 PM

But seriously, has the swine flu proven to be more deadly than any other flu? This is somethin I haven't been able to get a handle on. Is I going to kill more peeople than a "regular " flu? Or are we just freaking out about it because the Media has tired of reporting on the recession?

Nick Koan · 2009-04-29, 02:15 PM

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!

Actually, a lot of conspiracy theories are going around.

It was done by people that want to close the border with Mexico. It was done by Obama to push through more appointments in this time of 'crisis'. It was done by the Mexican government who just passed a bunch of controversial laws (plain-clothes policemen, unlimited cell phone surveillance, hot-pursuit agreement with the US for drug traffickers, legalizing personal amounts of narcotics). It was done by Al Queda as its easier to get into the Mexico than the US. It was done by Baxter Pharm, the makers of the most effective viruses. It was done by the New World Order as a beta-test of one of their bioweapons. etc...

van · 2009-04-29, 03:33 PM

http://www.alternet.org/healthwellne...edia%27s_hype/

sperry · 2009-04-29, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveM

But seriously, has the swine flu proven to be more deadly than any other flu? This is somethin I haven't been able to get a handle on. Is I going to kill more peeople than a "regular " flu? Or are we just freaking out about it because the Media has tired of reporting on the recession?

I think the biggest difference is that the "normal" flu tends only to kill the very young, and the elderly. Whereas this particular strain is strong enough to kill healthy adults more easily than the everyday variations.

That said, IIRC something like 20,000 people die every year from plain old influenza... I think a lot of the "danger" from the swine flu is more hype than anything.

And that kid/pig picture is fucking comedy GOLD!

SteveM · 2009-04-29, 04:16 PM

Thanks. exactly the information I was looking for, I don't read Alternet enough and forget how good it is,

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Originally Posted by van

http://www.alternet.org/healthwellne...edia%27s_hype/

Joeyy · 2009-04-29, 04:17 PM

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knucklesplitter · 2009-04-30, 02:59 PM

What I know (or think I know) about Swine Flu :

Swine Flu is more dangerous than regular flu because unlike the normal yearly flu, humans have no built-up immunity to Swine Flu at all. It started in pigs, mutated, then jumped to humans, and now it has mutated some more and it jumps from humans to humans. It is *potentially* very dangerous because when (not if) it mutates in the future it could become very deadly for humans. It kills young healthy people because the body's immunity freaks out and over-attacks it. The body's immune system basically drowns the person in there own fluids in reaction to a flu of this caliber. Younger adults with nice robust healthy immune systems are at higher risk because their body is better able to drown itself. The Spanish Flu (Swine's ancestor/cousin) pandemic of 1918 killed 25-50 million people worldwide. Most were young and otherwise healthy. That flu also hit during the summer and fall which is unusual. The US and most other countries are much better prepared for a flu pandemic now, both in organization and technology. The wildcard today is how virulent the virus becomes as it mutates while propagating rapidly across the globe.

Best case scenario: People get it in its mild state with relatively few deaths (a normal amount for flu), and the population builds some immunity to it.

Worst case scenario (far fetched): Something equivalent to the Black Death of medieval times on a global scale along with total global economic collapse.

It is much more likely to end up like the former than the latter, but it warrants our attention and diligence. It does not warrant panic or even some of the overreaction happening already. For instance, you cannot get Swine Flu from eating pork, even raw pork (not advised for other reasons).

Kevin M · 2009-04-30, 03:12 PM

Interesting. I wonder if anyone is trying using a low dose of immuno-suppressants as a treatment. Doesn't cure anything, but maybe reduces the severity of it.

knucklesplitter · 2009-04-30, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin M

Interesting. I wonder if anyone is trying using a low dose of immuno-suppressants as a treatment. Doesn't cure anything, but maybe reduces the severity of it.

I think the normal treatment at the moment is do-nothing unless the symptoms are really bad. This flu isn't that deadly at the moment. If symptoms are bad (pneumonia.etc.) then the pneumonia is treated appropriately and anti-viral drugs are administered. Tamiflu is the brandname of the stuff that the US has stockpiled (50M courses I think). Give the Bush-43 Admin. credit (rare) for spending $B's on pandemic preparedness.

sperry · 2009-04-30, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by knucklesplitter

I think the normal treatment at the moment is do-nothing unless the symptoms are really bad. This flu isn't that deadly at the moment. If symptoms are bad (pneumonia.etc.) then the pneumonia is treated appropriately and anti-viral drugs are administered. Tamiflu is the brandname of the stuff that the US has stockpiled (50M courses I think). Give the Bush-43 Admin. credit (rare) for spending $B's on pandemic preparedness.

You mean "give the Bush crew credit for spending $B's on the company Donald Rumsfeld was the chairman of the board for"? Gotcha.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/tamiflu.asp

2009-04-29, 10:10 AM	#1
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Swine Flu in Washoe http://www.rgj.com/article/20090429/...m/breakingnews First confirmed case in Nevada is a 2 year old in Washoe County. Kid is doing fine, everyone please panic now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASibLqwVbsk __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN Last edited by Nick Koan; 2009-04-29 at 10:18 AM.

2009-04-29, 10:22 AM	#2
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	cough cough oink __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2009-04-29, 10:35 AM	#4
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I had pork chops on Monday night and have been having ham on my bagel every morning. Delicious! __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-04-29, 10:38 AM	#5
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	I heard the best way to inoculate yourself is to get as many pig products into your diet as you can. Eventually, you will build up a resistance to swine related viruses. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-04-29, 10:41 AM	#6
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Sounds intoxicating. :drool: __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-04-29, 10:31 AM	#3
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	I just saw this on the news.

2009-04-29, 10:48 AM	#8
TrueNative EJ18 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 80 Car: 05 cgm STi	Bird flu.....Swine flu..... I will hold off panic till the Donkey flu arrives.

2009-04-29, 11:09 AM	#9
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	I have had the swine flu for years. The Dr. told me that the only cure is diet and exercise. I am just happy that I am a survivor and still here to tell the tale. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-04-29, 11:13 AM	#10
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	Attached Images

2009-04-29, 11:23 AM	#11
TrueNative EJ18 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Reno Posts: 80 Car: 05 cgm STi	^^ LOL Bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good.

2009-04-29, 12:30 PM	#13
WRX06TR EJ251 Real Name: Nick P Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Reno Posts: 881 Car: 2005 STi Class: MadtyteTunerBro! Back to the studio!	eating ham sandwich as I type

2009-04-29, 12:51 PM	#14
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	I can't stop laughing. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

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2009-04-29, 02:10 PM	#16
SteveM EJ22 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Reno Posts: 148 Car: RED WRX Class: Spectator Mangia la mia polvere	But seriously, has the swine flu proven to be more deadly than any other flu? This is somethin I haven't been able to get a handle on. Is I going to kill more peeople than a "regular " flu? Or are we just freaking out about it because the Media has tired of reporting on the recession?

2009-04-29, 02:15 PM	#17
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	EVERYBODY PANIC!!! Actually, a lot of conspiracy theories are going around. It was done by people that want to close the border with Mexico. It was done by Obama to push through more appointments in this time of 'crisis'. It was done by the Mexican government who just passed a bunch of controversial laws (plain-clothes policemen, unlimited cell phone surveillance, hot-pursuit agreement with the US for drug traffickers, legalizing personal amounts of narcotics). It was done by Al Queda as its easier to get into the Mexico than the US. It was done by Baxter Pharm, the makers of the most effective viruses. It was done by the New World Order as a beta-test of one of their bioweapons. etc... __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-04-29, 03:33 PM	#18
van SECCS Brewmeister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: on the edge of a marsh Posts: 1,451	http://www.alternet.org/healthwellne...edia%27s_hype/

2009-04-29, 04:17 PM	#21
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	Deleted. Last edited by Joeyy; 2009-04-29 at 06:28 PM.

2009-04-30, 02:59 PM	#22
knucklesplitter EJ205 Real Name: Matt Taylor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cousin-Fck, Carolina Posts: 1,474 Wish in one hand and sht in the other...	What I know (or think I know) about Swine Flu : Swine Flu is more dangerous than regular flu because unlike the normal yearly flu, humans have no built-up immunity to Swine Flu at all. It started in pigs, mutated, then jumped to humans, and now it has mutated some more and it jumps from humans to humans. It is potentially very dangerous because when (not if) it mutates in the future it could become very deadly for humans. It kills young healthy people because the body's immunity freaks out and over-attacks it. The body's immune system basically drowns the person in there own fluids in reaction to a flu of this caliber. Younger adults with nice robust healthy immune systems are at higher risk because their body is better able to drown itself. The Spanish Flu (Swine's ancestor/cousin) pandemic of 1918 killed 25-50 million people worldwide. Most were young and otherwise healthy. That flu also hit during the summer and fall which is unusual. The US and most other countries are much better prepared for a flu pandemic now, both in organization and technology. The wildcard today is how virulent the virus becomes as it mutates while propagating rapidly across the globe. Best case scenario: People get it in its mild state with relatively few deaths (a normal amount for flu), and the population builds some immunity to it. Worst case scenario (far fetched): Something equivalent to the Black Death of medieval times on a global scale along with total global economic collapse. It is much more likely to end up like the former than the latter, but it warrants our attention and diligence. It does not warrant panic or even some of the overreaction happening already. For instance, you cannot get Swine Flu from eating pork, even raw pork (not advised for other reasons). Last edited by knucklesplitter; 2009-04-30 at 03:05 PM. Reason: Should have noted that the worst case scenario is pretty far fetched.

2009-04-30, 03:12 PM	#23
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Interesting. I wonder if anyone is trying using a low dose of immuno-suppressants as a treatment. Doesn't cure anything, but maybe reduces the severity of it. __________________ FWD is the new AWD