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Old 2005-08-04, 03:27 PM   #1
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Is it just me, or are we getting silly with the names/designations for cars...

Version X Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec C

The Evos are almost as bad.

I like Porsche.

928, 996, 914, etc. OK, You can call them Carrera, Carrera Turbo, Carrera Cabriolet, but those are pretty simple. At least there is not Porsche Carrera Turbo 996 type R ver 6

So, here is the contest...

Find the longest manufacturer's published name/designation for a car and win the admiration of all your competitors...

Rules: The name must be verifiable. AKA it must be on a manufacturers web site/brochure, or at least a reputable major trade magazine.

The winner will be judged by the number of name components, not overall length ("Acura Integra type R" is 3 components. if they also had a blah R and a type S, it would be 4. even though they are not hyphenated, "type R" only counts as one component unless you can show other variations exist)

So my example of "Version X Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec C" would be "version X" "Subaru" "Impreza" "WRX" "STI" "Spec C" or 6 if I could actually find it in print somewhere in that format.

Unverified versions can be submitted, but just like scrabble, be prepared to be challenged...

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It is getting ridiculous... there's no reason to name the car an Impreza WRX STi, just call it an Impreza STi. Sounds like something you'd read in a government document with so many acronyms & numbers floating around...
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2003 Mercedes-Benz SL 350 Mille Miglia Edition
Years don't count, so this is only 4 assuming there were SLs other than the 350 like a SL 400, or a DL 350. "Mercedes-Benz" "SL" "350" "Mille Miglia Edition"
If there where no other SLs or 350s, then it is only 3...
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And to clarify, that's a end-of run (Ver. VI) STi stripped down (crank windows, no lips, no spats, no sound-deadening, shorter gears, the whole shebang for a 4-door motorsports car (RA)) in Rally Blue, with extra internal badging (V-Limited)

That saming nomenclature applies to everything after Version 3's. Type R's were coupes, RA's were sedans. You'll typically see them in white and red, and they can be easily picked out by having both an STi red manifold and unpainted door handles.
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Subaru Impreza WRX STi Ver. VI Type RA V-limited
Wow, that's 7 if you can find it in print assuming all RAs were not V-Limited.
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They were not all V-Limited,the V-limited was a special edition with blue paint and internal badging on top of the motrosports package.

I'll try to find it documented.
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http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/wrx.html

http://www.ravensblade-impreza.com/t...ls/models.html
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Wow, that's 7 if you can find it in print assuming all RAs were not V-Limited.
Off the internet, and using different versions, but

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The Impreza WRX Type-R STi V-limited package is the same as standard type-R STi except for the emblems and body colour.
As aaron said, the Type-R was a coupe, and the Type-RA was a sedan, otherwise they are exactly the same. The V-Limited package is certainly different (if not by much) then the regular Type-R/Type-RA versions.
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I don't understand why people have a problem w/ the long names. It's a way to specifically identify the car. Let break down Aaron's example:

"Subaru Impreza WRX STi Ver. VI Type RA V-limited"

1) It's a Subaru
2) It's the Impreza platform
3) It's the turbo-charged version
4) Tuned by Subaru Technia International
5) It's the 6th revision
6) It's the lightweight race version with 4 doors
7) It's got the special color/badging package

It's not like anyone's making you say the whole thing... you tell me "Dude I saw a ver6 RA!" and I know you're talking about a pretty rare car... you don't need to spell it out. But for consistancy, it's nice to make the official name of the car detailed.

Dean and Austin, from now on, you're required to refer to all STi's as "Subaru Impreza WRX STi's". Every time I hear you slacking, you own me a dollar.
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And to clarify, that's a end-of run (Ver. VI) STi stripped down (crank windows, no lips, no spats, no sound-deadening, shorter gears, the whole shebang for a 4-door motorsports car (RA)) in Rally Blue, with extra internal badging (V-Limited)

That saming nomenclature applies to everything after Version 3's. Type R's were coupes, RA's were sedans. You'll typically see them in white and red, and they can be easily picked out by having both an STi red manifold and unpainted door handles.
Jeez Aaron isn't that "an end of run....."?
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Porsche is not as easy as you woud think: My car is officially a:

Porsche, 964, carrera, c, 4, cabriolet.
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I don't understand why people have a problem w/ the long names. It's a way to specifically identify the car. Let break down Aaron's example:

blah, blah, blah...

Dean and Austin, from now on, you're required to refer to all STi's as "Subaru Impreza WRX STi's". Every time I hear you slacking, you own me a dollar.
Because they are long.

Let's not, and No!

And by the way, so far Aaron is winning, and you aren't.
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Porsche is not as easy as you woud think: My car is officially a:

Porsche, 964, carrera, c, 4, cabriolet.
Isn't the C=Carrera?
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Why yes it is. Ever since I debadged that thing, I guess I forgot. I thought it said "C-4", but the old badge says "Carrera 4".
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Why yes it is. Ever since I debadged that thing, I guess I forgot. I thought it said "C-4", but the old badge says "Carrera 4".
Now that I think about it, isn't the 964 a factory designation that isn't actually used in the vehicle documentation...

Doesn't 964 equate to year X-Y C-4? Does 911 play in there somewhere?
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Because they are long.

Let's not, and No!

And by the way, so far Aaron is winning, and you aren't.
Okay from now on, all people will be refered to as "H", for Human. Wouldn't want to make anyone have to use full names, they're just too long!

And god forbid we let the organic chemistry industry, or the medical field, or botanists, or pretty much any even half-way scientifc professional get away with naming things descriptively. From now on all molecules are "M's", all organs are "O's", all plants are "P's". Let's just hope we don't run out of letters in the alphabet, that would be double-plus-ungood!

So yeah, it is "just you", we are not "getting silly with the name/designations for cars". The long names have a very good use. They're not made up so you can hold a contest on the internet, they're actually descriptive of a particular car!

As far as the contest:

Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R V-spec II N1 <- 7 names
Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R V-spec II Nur <- 7 names
Mine's Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R V-spec II N1 <- 8 names
Nissan Nismo Fairlady Z S-Tune GT Aero (Z33) <- 7 names
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI RS Tommy Makinen Edition <-6 names

And it's not just the Japanese that do this:

Dodge Ram Hemi 2500 SLT Quad-Cab 4x4 <- 7 names
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The only one I call shenanigans on is the Mine's car, as that's not a separate manufacturer (like a RUF) but the rest = win. We will have to learn to peacefully coexist at the top


If you want to bring tuner names and the weird crap they do into it....

JUN Hyper Lemon Time Attack Subaru Impreza WRX STi Spec C

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I have to disagree. "Option Packages" do not belong in the vehicle name.

Why not just call it a Subaru Impreza RA, the rest is superfluous. You effectively said so yourself in your earlier post.
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Now that I think about it, isn't the 964 a factory designation that isn't actually used in the vehicle documentation...

Doesn't 964 equate to year X-Y C-4? Does 911 play in there somewhere?
964 is a body style designation. The 964 model was in existence from 1989 - 1994. It then changed to the 993 from 1995 - 1998. Then of course 996 from 1999-2004 and now it is 997. They are all considered 911 heritage.

The boxter is officially a 986. So in order of body styles the one's I can remember are:

356, 550, 911, 912, 924, 928, 930, 935, 944, 959, 964, 968, 986, 993, 996, 997!

There may be more?
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It's not an option package, it's representative of preparation of the vehicle.

It's not the same as calling something a Corvette Z51 (which would be incorrect)
However, is it a Camaro, or a Camaro Z28?

The rest is not superfluous. A Subaru Impreza RA doesn't tell me if it's a WRX, if it has the additional prep by STi (which is considerable) and doesn't tell me if it's a limited edition car. It also doesn't tell me if it's before or after the facelift, what other cosmetic and running gear changes were made, what the base motor is, etc.

The descriptive names adopted by Japanese manufacturers help to identify a vehicle when it's not sitting in front of you to look at.
If you actually understand what's being discussed, it's almost like shorthand, similar to referring to everything by engine and chassis codes.
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