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cody · 2011-03-21, 07:49 PM

Rory's wagon is sweet. Congrats.

I should have said no major failures. I just remembered that my keyless entry has an electrical gremlin and I had to replace the windshield wiper linkage.

SpenceTi · 2011-03-21, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cody

Rory's wagon is sweet. Congrats.

I should have said no major failures. I just remembered that my keyless entry has an electrical gremlin and I had to replace the windshield wiper linkage.

lol not bad for a fairly old car!

But yeah if all goes well it should be on my driveway within the week. I'm pretty

sperry · 2011-03-21, 09:50 PM

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lol not bad for a fairly old car!

But yeah if all goes well it should be on my driveway within the week. I'm pretty

Holy shit. WRX's are "fairly old cars" now?

SpenceTi · 2011-03-22, 03:22 AM

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Holy shit. WRX's are "fairly old cars" now?

Well 02's are 10 years old around now...

I guess "older car" varies?

sperry · 2011-03-22, 09:51 AM

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Well 02's are 10 years old around now...

I guess "older car" varies?

IMO, an "old car" is one old enough that they're not seen on the street much anymore, yet they aren't old (or cool) enough for nostalgia to render them "vintage".

Here's an old car:

Hell, my SVX is 17 years old, and it's really not missing anything that a brand new $30,000 car has... it's just got a lot of miles on it and looks like it's from the 90's. But I'd have a hard time calling it "an old car", and if a 17 year old SVX is only borderline... then a 2002 WRX isn't "old". A bone stock '02 WRX is still faster than a lot of cars being sold today.

But the real point here is probably that I'm old now apparently... so a 10 year old WRX doesn't seem all that ancient. I bought my '02 WRX brand new in 2001... it's in my garage right now... when I drive it, it sure doesn't feel like an old car to me. Maybe I need to buy a new car to see what I'm missing?

SpenceTi · 2011-03-22, 10:17 AM

No need to explain how you feel... I can understand what you mean. I guess to me, I'm young, iPhones feel "old" now lol.

But I guess what I mean it's "older" not old.

Lol your wrx isn't so much wrx anymore

khail19 · 2011-03-22, 08:34 PM

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Lol your wrx isn't so much wrx anymore

That's very true!

I feel old, and I think my car is getting old too. But I've never had a car for anywhere near as long as this one. I guess when you're 32, owning a car for 10 years is a pretty big chunk of your life.

SpenceTi · 2011-03-23, 06:59 PM

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That's very true!

I feel old, and I think my car is getting old too. But I've never had a car for anywhere near as long as this one. I guess when you're 32, owning a car for 10 years is a pretty big chunk of your life.

lol I guess I don't have that feeling yet.

Any recommendations on tires? It has snows on it right now and I was looking at the GY Eagle F1 Asymmetrical for summers. Thoughts?

Maybe the Direzzas??

Kevin M · 2011-03-23, 07:24 PM

Goodyears are mediocre. Go with some Direzza StarSpecs or the new Kumhos for cost effectiveness.

That, or just buy something cheap, black and round.

cody · 2011-03-23, 08:52 PM

All the cool kids are doing it. StarSpecs are the shit.

SpenceTi · 2011-03-24, 03:53 AM

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All the cool kids are doing it. StarSpecs are the shit.

Lol I will look into them. It's nice that they seems fairly inexpensive too

cody · 2011-03-24, 08:30 AM

We'd be suggesting RE-11's if they were the same price.

They are both awesome tires for autoX, the wider the better. But like all wide sticky tires, they will hunt a bit on the freeway and you won't get as many miles out of them as you would a normal summer tire...not great for gas milage either. That's why I have a (narrow) Summer set (Rotas and Bridgestone Sport Maxx) and a (wider) AutoX set (5Zigens and StarSpecs). But most people just have one set they use for AutoX and Summer driving, which is fine.

SpenceTi · 2011-03-24, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cody

We'd be suggesting RE-11's if they were the same price.

They are both awesome tires for autoX, the wider the better. But like all wide sticky tires, they will hunt a bit on the freeway and you won't get as many miles out of them as you would a normal summer tire...not great for gas milage either. That's why I have a (narrow) Summer set (Rotas and Bridgestone Sport Maxx) and a (wider) AutoX set (5Zigens and StarSpecs). But most people just have one set they use for AutoX and Summer driving, which is fine.

Yeah i'm planning on 245's and seeing how it goes. I will roll and pull if needed...

I'm just glad to have the snow's situation figured out...

sperry · 2011-03-24, 09:34 AM

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Yeah i'm planning on 245's and seeing how it goes. I will roll and pull if needed...

I'm just glad to have the snow's situation figured out...

No "if needed" about it. You're not putting 245's under a wagon's un-rolled fenders.

SpenceTi · 2011-03-24, 10:06 AM

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No "if needed" about it. You're not putting 245's under a wagon's un-rolled fenders.

Well good to know lol. There is that big of a clearance difference?

cody · 2011-03-24, 10:10 AM

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Well good to know lol. There is that big of a clearance difference?

I run 245's on my wagon. Not sure if there's any difference on yours since it's a MY07 (doubt it), but I have a simple role and run about -1.8 camber in the rear IIRC to keep them from hitting the fenders. My wheels are 17X8 ET48 though. I think most wheels in this size are ET45 which puts the tire 3mm closer to the fender.

YMMV based on other factors too, like suspension.

SpenceTi · 2011-03-24, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cody

I run 245's on my wagon. Not sure if there's any difference on yours since it's a MY07 (doubt it), but I have a simple role and run about -1.8 camber in the rear IIRC to keep them from hitting the fenders. My wheels are 17X8 ET48 though. I think most wheels in this size are ET45 which puts the tire 3mm closer to the fender.

YMMV based on other factors too, like suspension.

Yeah I may go smaller until I can go coilivers and camber plates. We'll see though.

sperry · 2011-03-24, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SpenceTi

Well good to know lol. There is that big of a clearance difference?

Wagons don't have the fender flares sedans have. So while 245's are "easy" on a sedan, they're trouble on wagons.

Of course, suspension makes a huge difference on what fits and what doesn't. Lowering the car will lose you a ton of room, but you also tend to get more camber adjustability that makes up for it, for example.

Practically speaking for a car with basic suspension mods and no fender clearancing, 245s are the limit on a sedan, and 225s are the the limit on a wagon, IMO. More than that and you have to start planning what you're doing with camber, wheel offsets, fender rolling, etc.

k-dogg39 · 2011-03-24, 11:17 AM

245's on my wagon as well. But I am also on coilovers, with 17x8 +45 wheels. Have a little roll on my rear fenders, nothing to drastic.

SpenceTi · 2011-03-24, 04:50 PM

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245's on my wagon as well. But I am also on coilovers, with 17x8 +45 wheels. Have a little roll on my rear fenders, nothing to drastic.

That's my eventual goal

sybir · 2011-03-24, 09:45 PM

Get your car at the height you want, then figure out tire, not the other way around. Honestly, the cars are more fun on a 225 or a 235 tops - you get wider and sure, there's more grip, but for something you drive every day it's overkill.

A 235/40/17 is a great fit on a 17x8 and can be done without too much work a WRX wagon (slightly more fender room than my car)

I can "fit" 245 rcomps on my wagon, but they don't *fit*

k-dogg39 · 2011-03-25, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sybir

Get your car at the height you want, then figure out tire, not the other way around. Honestly, the cars are more fun on a 225 or a 235 tops - you get wider and sure, there's more grip, but for something you drive every day it's overkill.

A 235/40/17 is a great fit on a 17x8 and can be done without too much work a WRX wagon (slightly more fender room than my car)

I can "fit" 245 rcomps on my wagon, but they don't *fit*

Very true. I should have probably also stated that I only use the 245's for Auto-X, and DD on 225's.

SpenceTi · 2011-03-25, 11:29 PM

Picked up the wagon today. It is plenty fast for what I want. I think I will leave engine mods alone for a long time.

Suspension wise I was impressed but the body roll does need to be addressed. I think so beefy swaybars would be a god send in this situation...

Thoughts?

Dean · 2011-03-26, 06:53 AM

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Picked up the wagon today. It is plenty fast for what I want. I think I will leave engine mods alone for a long time.

Suspension wise I was impressed but the body roll does need to be addressed. I think so beefy swaybars would be a god send in this situation...

Thoughts?

Cobb/Hotchkis hollow bars, whichever is cheaper. They are the same bars made by Hotchkis, but Cobb is often cheaper.

SpenceTi · 2011-03-26, 08:15 AM

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Cobb/Hotchkis hollow bars, whichever is cheaper. They are the same bars made by Hotchkis, but Cobb is often cheaper.

On the cobb site the bars are no where in sight? Maybe I am blind.

What about white line?

2011-03-21, 07:49 PM	#26
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Rory's wagon is sweet. Congrats. I should have said no major failures. I just remembered that my keyless entry has an electrical gremlin and I had to replace the windshield wiper linkage. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2011-03-22, 10:17 AM	#31
SpenceTi EJ18 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 34 Car: 07 Stage 2 WRX Class: ESP slow in fast out	No need to explain how you feel... I can understand what you mean. I guess to me, I'm young, iPhones feel "old" now lol. But I guess what I mean it's "older" not old. Lol your wrx isn't so much wrx anymore __________________ "Slow is the new fast"

2011-03-23, 07:24 PM	#34
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Goodyears are mediocre. Go with some Direzza StarSpecs or the new Kumhos for cost effectiveness. That, or just buy something cheap, black and round. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2011-03-23, 08:52 PM	#35
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	All the cool kids are doing it. StarSpecs are the shit. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2011-03-24, 08:30 AM	#37
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	We'd be suggesting RE-11's if they were the same price. They are both awesome tires for autoX, the wider the better. But like all wide sticky tires, they will hunt a bit on the freeway and you won't get as many miles out of them as you would a normal summer tire...not great for gas milage either. That's why I have a (narrow) Summer set (Rotas and Bridgestone Sport Maxx) and a (wider) AutoX set (5Zigens and StarSpecs). But most people just have one set they use for AutoX and Summer driving, which is fine. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2011-03-24, 11:17 AM	#44
k-dogg39 Little Slugger Real Name: Kevin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 777 Car: 05 WRB STI Wagon/00 BRP GC Sedan Class: 39 TSM I'm not crazy, I'm just passionate!	245's on my wagon as well. But I am also on coilovers, with 17x8 +45 wheels. Have a little roll on my rear fenders, nothing to drastic.

2011-03-24, 09:45 PM	#46
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	Get your car at the height you want, then figure out tire, not the other way around. Honestly, the cars are more fun on a 225 or a 235 tops - you get wider and sure, there's more grip, but for something you drive every day it's overkill. A 235/40/17 is a great fit on a 17x8 and can be done without too much work a WRX wagon (slightly more fender room than my car) I can "fit" 245 rcomps on my wagon, but they don't fit __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2011-03-25, 11:29 PM	#48
SpenceTi EJ18 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 34 Car: 07 Stage 2 WRX Class: ESP slow in fast out	Picked up the wagon today. It is plenty fast for what I want. I think I will leave engine mods alone for a long time. Suspension wise I was impressed but the body roll does need to be addressed. I think so beefy swaybars would be a god send in this situation... Thoughts? __________________ "Slow is the new fast"

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