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Old 2006-08-24, 12:22 PM   #1
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I just read this in Thailand racing webpage. They have Gymkhana (kind of auto-x) catch up style. 2 cars on the same track 2nd car is 5 seconds behind. If time is less than 5 second 2nd car win if not 1st car win. Sound like fun but scary if something happen to the lead car. We can't do that here to risky.
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Old 2006-08-24, 12:52 PM   #2
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Sounds like fun. It'd need to be 2 drivers who really trusted each other's abilities, I would think.


At the VCHC, they used to let driver pairs (i.e. Doug Hayashi & Wayne Mello, sp?) chase each other up the hill with less than the full interval, to see if one could get close to the other, quite exciting. But those guys are good drivers....
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Isn't the Gymkhana based more around drifting than say autocross which focuses on grip driving?
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Isn't the Gymkhana based more around drifting than say autocross which focuses on grip driving?
The primary difference between Autocross and Gymkhana as far as I know is that Autocross focuses primarily on the driver's car handling skill, while Gymkhana focuses on the driver's memory. Most Gymkhana courses are very tight and include multiple loops around the course from several directions. It's kind of a navigation puzzle.

Check out these course maps for an example:





Here's one with only 5 cones!


In autocross, the courses are specifically designed to be clear without memorization, and should never intentionally confuse the driver.

I think the association of drifting w/ gymkhana comes from the fact that most gymkhana courses are *very* tight and involve lots of small loops. Courses so tight that sliding the rear dramatically inevitablly becomes the fast way around the course. I don't believe the intention in gymkhana is to drift, but when you have to do three loops around a single cone, that's the only fast way to do it.
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Old 2006-08-24, 02:22 PM   #5
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Gymkhana have u-turn, donut, back in slot but they do use timing system. Who do all that with less time win. Drifting is no time just who have better show win.
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Old 2006-08-24, 02:24 PM   #6
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Old 2006-08-24, 02:26 PM   #7
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Old 2006-08-24, 02:51 PM   #8
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I think the association of drifting w/ gymkhana comes from the fact that most gymkhana courses are *very* tight and involve lots of small loops. Courses so tight that sliding the rear dramatically inevitablly becomes the fast way around the course. I don't believe the intention in gymkhana is to drift, but when you have to do three loops around a single cone, that's the only fast way to do it.
That makes sence, however those tracks would be the most confusing thing ever.
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Gymkhana have u-turn, donut, back in slot but they do use timing system. Who do all that with less time win. Drifting is no time just who have better show win.
I was refering to Drifting as a technique, not the racing series.
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I was searching google video for that exact movie! I love that stoppie at the end. I'm in total awe at how they got that hard to handle so damn well in such small turns.
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I remember seeing that video along time ago, its so amazing
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Of the vids I have seen, all the courses had water on them, which leads me to believe they want drifting to happen a bit. Do I believe right?
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Of the vids I have seen, all the courses had water on them, which leads me to believe they want drifting to happen a bit. Do I believe right?
On some of those courses its the fastest way.
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On some of those courses its the fastest way.
But you didn't tell me if I believe right or not. Do they intentionally water down parts of the course?
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But you didn't tell me if I believe right or not. Do they intentionally water down parts of the course?
On the videos I have no, they do not water down the course. Could they water down the course, to make it easier, sure why not.
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Drifting-cross!!
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Drifting-cross!!
It's been done.
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