Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras  

Go Back   Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras > Car Enthusiast Forums > General Subaru Discussion & Club Chat

General Subaru Discussion & Club Chat Talk about Subarus, plan meets, and other Sierra Nevada area Suby stuff!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2003-11-03, 10:14 PM   #1
LetItRev
R.I.P.
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 501
 
Car: 2004 WRX
Default Snow Tire Recommendations

Since I am at the lake a few times a week, I know the value of good snow rubber. I suspect that I'll probably make the stock rims my winter rims.

What snow tires has this group had good luck with? Where is a good place to get them if I need them mounted to my current rims? And how much should I expect to pay for them. How is the performance?

Thanks.
LetItRev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-03, 10:39 PM   #2
tysonK
warehouse SECCS
 
tysonK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SoCal...
Posts: 6,253
 
Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac
Class: street de le mod
Default

I think most of us agree these are worth the money.


Dunlop Winter Sport M2

and

Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22


I think these might be really simliar tires but the dunlops are cheaper?

http://www.seccs.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=761
__________________
Anjali? Anjali?


tysonK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-03, 11:24 PM   #3
sperry
The Doink
 
sperry's Avatar
 
Real Name: Scott
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 20,335
 
Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata
Class: PDX/TT-6
 
The way out is through
Default

I have the LM-22's and I'll agree they're a little overpriced.... the tread looks near identicle to the M2s.
__________________
Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?
sperry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-04, 06:59 AM   #4
MattR
El Matador
 
MattR's Avatar
 
Real Name: Matt
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 10,660
 
Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma
Class: ?
Default

I have the M2's and so does Art, since Scott has the Blizzak's, you can compare the two at the next meet if you like. But I would agree, LM22 Blizzaks and Dunlop WS m2's are the way to go.
__________________
"Dallas..We have a problem.”
MattR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-04, 08:23 AM   #5
JC
Ask me about dubs!
 
Real Name: JC
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Orange, CA
Posts: 2,895
 
Car: 2013 Triumph Speed Triple R
Default

I have off brand snows and they do just fine. You do have an AWD car. My parents have Toyo Observes on their car and they grip like crazy. I was doing 55-60mph on a dirt road with anywhere from 3" to maybe a foot of snow on it. It was just plowing through, I was very impressed. That was a good time too.

JC
__________________
Actually, I am a rocket scientist.
JC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-04, 08:28 AM   #6
sperry
The Doink
 
sperry's Avatar
 
Real Name: Scott
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 20,335
 
Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata
Class: PDX/TT-6
 
The way out is through
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JC
I have off brand snows and they do just fine. You do have an AWD car. My parents have Toyo Observes on their car and they grip like crazy. I was doing 55-60mph on a dirt road with anywhere from 3" to maybe a foot of snow on it. It was just plowing through, I was very impressed. That was a good time too.

JC
...till you drifted into that tree.
__________________
Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?
sperry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-15, 09:22 PM   #7
markn
n00b
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Lake Tahoe
Posts: 11
Default

Go with the Bridgestone WS-50's - I've run them for 2 seasons up at the lake. The LM-22's don't work so well; a friend has them on his S4 after using MZ-02 Blizzak's the past 2 winters, and hates them (having driven the car with the LM-22's, I concur). The only other tire I would suggest is a Hakka 2 or Hakka Q. Stay away from the Dunlop's - very disappointing tire on ice.
__________________
'04 WRX STi (WRBlue)
'04 WRX Wagon (Silver)
'00 EVO 6.5 TME (Silver)
'03 EVO 8 (Black)

http://www.sierramotorsport.com
markn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-16, 07:32 PM   #8
BOO
EJ205
 
BOO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 2,076
 
Car: 12+tires
Class: Spec.
 
without hard work, nothing grows but weeds
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by markn
Go with the Bridgestone WS-50's - I've run them for 2 seasons up at the lake. The LM-22's don't work so well; a friend has them on his S4 after using MZ-02 Blizzak's the past 2 winters, and hates them (having driven the car with the LM-22's, I concur). The only other tire I would suggest is a Hakka 2 or Hakka Q. Stay away from the Dunlop's - very disappointing tire on ice.
Hmmm isnt that what you have MATT?? I might have to keep searching because I DO go to the Bay Area very frequent, even during the heaviest/harshest of winter..
***Edit***
Coolness, I Too, have the "555" FEVA !!!
__________________
LOL.. The other White Meat ... lol
------------------------------------------------
subaru(STi) is a boys car, mitsubishi(evo) is a man's car - Jeremy (Top Gear)

GC,GD,GM
BOO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-16, 07:37 PM   #9
MattR
El Matador
 
MattR's Avatar
 
Real Name: Matt
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 10,660
 
Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma
Class: ?
Default

I am very confident in the Winter Sport Dunlops. I had heard that their old Graspic line was a nightmare on Ice, but the Dunlop's on the Wagon, and now the ones on the STI do great on ice. Personally, I have heard that the Blizzak WS50 is unfit for dry driving, so its the last tire I would put on a WRX or Evo. Lm-22 yes...ws 50 =No.

The amount of siping (sp?) on the Dunlop is very similar to that of the Blizzak, and like I said, they performed wonderfully last season. So, I'm happy with my Dunlops, and a lot of other owners would agree.

Basically
New Dunlop Winter Sports > Old Dunlop Graspic, etc.

WS 50 is good for full time snow use. but dangerous on dry pavement because of lack of cornering ability.
__________________
"Dallas..We have a problem.”
MattR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-16, 07:48 PM   #10
BOO
EJ205
 
BOO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 2,076
 
Car: 12+tires
Class: Spec.
 
without hard work, nothing grows but weeds
Default

Well Matt,
When I rode in your car, they felt pretty grippy and i remember it had been sprinkling that night.. but You say they are pretty good in the snow... Judging from your Wagon last winter...
__________________
LOL.. The other White Meat ... lol
------------------------------------------------
subaru(STi) is a boys car, mitsubishi(evo) is a man's car - Jeremy (Top Gear)

GC,GD,GM
BOO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-16, 07:54 PM   #11
MattR
El Matador
 
MattR's Avatar
 
Real Name: Matt
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 10,660
 
Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma
Class: ?
Default

Yeah, I like them, and have quite a bit of confidence in them...

Sergio, remember the off road run we did? the one where you road in my wagon. remember the ford truck? Do you remember what tires were on the car?...thats right, the Dunlops. How icy was that road? Nuff said.
__________________
"Dallas..We have a problem.”
MattR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-16, 08:09 PM   #12
BOO
EJ205
 
BOO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Reno, Nevada
Posts: 2,076
 
Car: 12+tires
Class: Spec.
 
without hard work, nothing grows but weeds
Default

@ Nuff Said.. Thats right.. Well plus the fact that the AWD system in an AUTO is way better than the Manual
__________________
LOL.. The other White Meat ... lol
------------------------------------------------
subaru(STi) is a boys car, mitsubishi(evo) is a man's car - Jeremy (Top Gear)

GC,GD,GM
BOO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-17, 08:58 AM   #13
dknv
EJ207
 
dknv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: 39n53, 119w90
Posts: 2,698
 
Car: RX-8
Class: CS maybe
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MattR
I am very confident in the Winter Sport Dunlops. I had heard that their old Graspic line was a nightmare on Ice, but the Dunlop's on the Wagon, and now the ones on the STI do great on ice. Personally, I have heard that the Blizzak WS50 is unfit for dry driving, so its the last tire I would put on a WRX or Evo. Lm-22 yes...ws 50 =No.

The amount of siping (sp?) on the Dunlop is very similar to that of the Blizzak, and like I said, they performed wonderfully last season. So, I'm happy with my Dunlops, and a lot of other owners would agree.

Basically
New Dunlop Winter Sports > Old Dunlop Graspic, etc.

WS 50 is good for full time snow use. but dangerous on dry pavement because of lack of cornering ability.
Am I confused? WS50=Blizzak or Bridgestone?
dknv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2003-11-17, 10:03 AM   #14
sperry
The Doink
 
sperry's Avatar
 
Real Name: Scott
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 20,335
 
Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata
Class: PDX/TT-6
 
The way out is through
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dknv
Am I confused? WS50=Blizzak or Bridgestone?
Bridgestone makes the Blizzaks. My tires are Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22's.
__________________
Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?
sperry is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Snow/Ice Tires Studs ? A1337STI Technical Chat 10 2006-03-15 09:36 PM
Are RE070's legal in AutoX? Nick Koan Motorsports Chat 14 2006-01-28 02:10 PM
Reno SCCA Street Tire changes MattR Motorsports Chat 14 2005-12-27 03:35 PM
Snow and Ice Tires 2005... Dean Technical Chat 42 2005-12-19 08:05 PM
Snow tire testing time? Dean General Subaru Discussion & Club Chat 44 2004-12-01 08:16 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
All Content Copyright Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras unless otherwise noted.