Some pictures from the 2005 Reno Rally - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

JonnydaJibba · 2006-02-02, 05:12 PM

Little late, but better then never.

Click on this one for video

cody · 2006-02-02, 05:18 PM

I feel a strong emotion...I think it's called envy.

JonnydaJibba · 2006-02-02, 05:23 PM

I forgot to mention how cute Bobbo is.

sp00ln · 2006-02-02, 05:42 PM

How'd that SRT do?

tysonK · 2006-02-02, 05:50 PM

wow, wish I could have went.

Nick Koan · 2006-02-02, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp00ln

How'd that SRT do?

SRT's generally mop up the 2wd open class, and if I remember correctly, there were two or three at the event. I think one or two dominated its class, but I think one retired.

EDIT: found the results.

http://www.renorally.com/results.asp

They don't say which cars were which, but G5 cars are open 2wd cars, and the top spot (Sutherland and Beavis) was the silver SRT-4. The OPEN class car at the top of the list is a Subaru I believe. An older body style impreza with the WRX motor IIRC.

Kevin M · 2006-02-02, 11:39 PM

Dammit I want another BRP RS.

JonnydaJibba · 2006-02-03, 09:00 AM

Yeah that RS was fast, and it sounded killer, I have a video of it launching at home. Too bad he launched like a grandma. That white L was fast as hell too, I think he said he had a USDM STi swap. The white bugeye was fast too, but they had tranny problems.

GC8.Love · 2006-02-03, 09:27 AM

FUN. I gotta go!!1!

JonnydaJibba · 2006-02-03, 09:30 AM

It was a lot of fun to be apart of. Only it was very, *very* brisk outside, and it was way out in the middle of nowhere like 110 miles away. Which is understandable when you have a 60 mile long stage, but still, it was far.

sperry · 2006-02-03, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba

Yeah that RS was fast, and it sounded killer, I have a video of it launching at home. Too bad he launched like a grandma. That white L was fast as hell too, I think he said he had a USDM STi swap. The white bugeye was fast too, but they had tranny problems.

More likely it was a JDM STI swap, since I believe most rally classifications require 2.0L or smaller motors.

JonnydaJibba · 2006-02-03, 10:41 AM

I really can't remember, but do the Neons still have their 2.4 liter motors? It wasn't something I put too much thought into.

sperry · 2006-02-03, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnydaJibba

I really can't remember, but do the Neons still have their 2.4 liter motors? It wasn't something I put too much thought into.

They probably have a fatty restrictor. Plus they're FWD so they're no where near as fast on dirt as the AWD cars, even if they've got an assload of power.

cody · 2006-02-03, 10:53 AM

What's a restrictor? Like a govenor?

sperry · 2006-02-03, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

What's a restrictor? Like a govenor?

It's a steel plate with a hole in it. All the air that enters the motor has to do so through that hole.

Here's the one that NASCAR uses at Daytona and Talledega to keep speeds around 200 mph:

JonnydaJibba · 2006-02-03, 11:03 AM

Hmm...intriguing.

cody · 2006-02-03, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

It's a steel plate with a hole in it. All the air that enters the motor has to do so through that hole.

Here's the one that NASCAR uses at Daytona and Talledega to keep speeds around 200 mph:

So you're saying to make up for the fact that the SRT's have > 2.0L, they have to install one of those? That's rough.

JonnydaJibba · 2006-02-03, 11:09 AM

I wish I could find out what kinda specs and internals those cars have, I didn't get a chance to talk to many of the drivers.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2006-02-03, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

So you're saying to make up for the fact that the SRT's have > 2.0L, they have to install one of those? That's rough.

It's a pretty common method sanctioning bodies use to establish parity when one car has an advantage over another.

Nick Koan · 2006-02-03, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

So you're saying to make up for the fact that the SRT's have > 2.0L, they have to install one of those? That's rough.

EDIT: basically yes..

more info below.

Nick Koan · 2006-02-03, 11:54 AM

Okay, looked up the real regs.

For Open Category cars with turbos (Open class and Group 5 class), you need an adjusted displacement of under 5100cc. For rotaries, your displacement multiplier is 1.8, for turbo/supercharged the multiplier is 1.7, and pushrod the multiplier is 0.8. So, the SRT-4 in stock configuration is 2400cc x 1.7 = 4080cc adjusted displacement. The 2.0L Subaru motor has 2000cc x 1.7 = 3400cc.

Now, the next reg on restrictor plates is if your adjusted displacement is at or under 4000cc, you use a 34mm restrictor. If it is greater then 4001cc, you use a 30.7mm restrictor.

If I were an SRT-4 driver, I'd mod the motor to only have 2350cc of actual displacement, so that the modified one was just under 4000cc. I don't know what competitors actually do though.

These are the Rally America/ex-SCCA rules. This doesn't necessiarly apply to WRC or other rallies. In WRC, I believe the displacement limit is 2000cc w/ a 34mm restrictor with no option for a larger displacement motor and smaller restrictor.

JonnydaJibba · 2006-02-03, 11:56 AM

Awesome find.

MikeK · 2006-02-03, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Here's the one that NASCAR uses at Daytona and Talledega to keep speeds around 200 mph:

Do all restrictor plates have to smell as bad as this one?

cody · 2006-02-03, 01:02 PM

GC8.Love · 2006-02-03, 03:52 PM

I'd use a thick slice of stale Swiss cheese.

2006-02-02, 05:12 PM	#1
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	Some pictures from the 2005 Reno Rally Little late, but better then never. Click on this one for video __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-02-02, 05:18 PM	#2
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I feel a strong emotion...I think it's called envy. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-02-02, 05:23 PM	#3
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	I forgot to mention how cute Bobbo is. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-02-02, 05:42 PM	#4
sp00ln EJ205 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,196	How'd that SRT do? __________________ Turbo is a decent with modification.

2006-02-02, 05:50 PM	#5
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	wow, wish I could have went. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2006-02-02, 11:39 PM	#7
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Dammit I want another BRP RS. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-02-03, 09:00 AM	#8
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	Yeah that RS was fast, and it sounded killer, I have a video of it launching at home. Too bad he launched like a grandma. That white L was fast as hell too, I think he said he had a USDM STi swap. The white bugeye was fast too, but they had tranny problems. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-02-03, 09:27 AM	#9
GC8.Love EJ22 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 339 Car: '01 STM Impreza 2.5 RS ; '96 "Junior Mints" colored Impreza Brighton - "Bowl of Wet Spaghetti" Class: We got classes?	FUN. I gotta go!!1!

2006-02-03, 09:30 AM	#10
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	It was a lot of fun to be apart of. Only it was very, very brisk outside, and it was way out in the middle of nowhere like 110 miles away. Which is understandable when you have a 60 mile long stage, but still, it was far. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-02-03, 10:41 AM	#12
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	I really can't remember, but do the Neons still have their 2.4 liter motors? It wasn't something I put too much thought into. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-02-03, 10:53 AM	#14
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	What's a restrictor? Like a govenor? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-02-03, 11:03 AM	#16
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	Hmm...intriguing. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-02-03, 11:09 AM	#18
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	I wish I could find out what kinda specs and internals those cars have, I didn't get a chance to talk to many of the drivers. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-02-03, 11:54 AM	#21
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Okay, looked up the real regs. For Open Category cars with turbos (Open class and Group 5 class), you need an adjusted displacement of under 5100cc. For rotaries, your displacement multiplier is 1.8, for turbo/supercharged the multiplier is 1.7, and pushrod the multiplier is 0.8. So, the SRT-4 in stock configuration is 2400cc x 1.7 = 4080cc adjusted displacement. The 2.0L Subaru motor has 2000cc x 1.7 = 3400cc. Now, the next reg on restrictor plates is if your adjusted displacement is at or under 4000cc, you use a 34mm restrictor. If it is greater then 4001cc, you use a 30.7mm restrictor. If I were an SRT-4 driver, I'd mod the motor to only have 2350cc of actual displacement, so that the modified one was just under 4000cc. I don't know what competitors actually do though. These are the Rally America/ex-SCCA rules. This doesn't necessiarly apply to WRC or other rallies. In WRC, I believe the displacement limit is 2000cc w/ a 34mm restrictor with no option for a larger displacement motor and smaller restrictor. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN Last edited by Nick Koan; 2006-02-03 at 12:00 PM.

2006-02-03, 11:56 AM	#22
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	Awesome find. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-02-03, 01:02 PM	#24
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	__________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-02-03, 03:52 PM	#25
GC8.Love EJ22 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 339 Car: '01 STM Impreza 2.5 RS ; '96 "Junior Mints" colored Impreza Brighton - "Bowl of Wet Spaghetti" Class: We got classes?	I'd use a thick slice of stale Swiss cheese.

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