06 WRX brakes - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

Joeyy · 2006-05-14, 04:32 PM

Question on street prepared rules. The rules talk about back dating for same model but diffrent years. If I'm reading the rules on backdating properly, I should be able to go with four pod front brakes and under brake rules should be able to run slotted rottors the same diameter as stock. Opinions please, I really don't want to rune modified.

Kevin M · 2006-05-14, 04:57 PM

You can already run slotted rotors. I am unsure about backdating though, I've never really looked into it.

Dean · 2006-05-14, 05:15 PM

You can only update/backdate with cars listed on the same line in the classing pages of the rule book, and only USDM versions.

So if the brakes in question meet that criteria, then yes...

Joeyy · 2006-05-14, 06:21 PM

I checked under appendix A and turbo Subaru is listed but how can I check on the 06 model? Thankyou for any help folks.

Dean · 2006-05-14, 06:32 PM

Currently all WRXs appear on the same line in SP.

Joeyy · 2006-05-14, 06:40 PM

So Dean, even though I did not give you that kiss (no tongue), do you think my future may hold four pod front brakes and maybe even two pod rears if thats what the 06 has?

Dean · 2006-05-14, 07:21 PM

As of the current rules, yes.

Joeyy · 2006-05-14, 07:33 PM

One more question before I start checking of pricing. What happens if the rules change and I'm looking at running a specific class?

Dean · 2006-05-14, 07:36 PM

You are stuck... The most likely conditon would be the splitting of the years and the 2.5l being moved to their own line.

Joeyy · 2006-05-14, 07:46 PM

Stuck in street prepared or stuck with the mod? My the way, good job on the grid today.

Dean · 2006-05-14, 07:48 PM

You will have to remove the mod, or change to a class that permits it. = Stuck...

Kevin M · 2006-05-14, 07:56 PM

Honestly, having run Subaru 4 pots, it's not a real big help for autocross. The weight more than cancels out the larger pad surface IMO. If you plan to track the car much it would be worth it though for sure. And like Dean said, it will be legal until/if the line in Appendix A is changed. Then you would have to go to SM or take off the calipers.

Joeyy · 2006-05-14, 07:58 PM

Thanks for your help Mr. Dean. Guess I'd be safe with just slotted rottors and pads. Shoot, I need to look up brake lines. The things two days of autocross gets you thinking about.

Kevin M · 2006-05-14, 08:01 PM

Brake lines are legal in everything but stock.

Joeyy · 2006-05-14, 08:16 PM

Thankyou all for your help. Time to move on to the brake pad thread and read a couple of times.

sperry · 2006-05-14, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Honestly, having run Subaru 4 pots, it's not a real big help for autocross. The weight more than cancels out the larger pad surface IMO. If you plan to track the car much it would be worth it though for sure. And like Dean said, it will be legal until/if the line in Appendix A is changed. Then you would have to go to SM or take off the calipers.

4-pots on a 2.0L WRX is probably next to zero weight difference. It's only the unsprung weight of the larger calipers (which is probable what, maybe a pound per wheel?) and zero change in rotational weight because the rotors are exactly the same.

khail19 · 2006-05-14, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeyy

So Dean, even though I did not give you that kiss (no tongue), do you think my future may hold four pod front brakes and maybe even two pod rears if thats what the 06 has?

I don't mean to be anal Joeyy, but it is pot, not pod. It refers to the number of pistons per caliper, which do sort of resemble pods. Just letting you know so people don't look at you funny when you say four pod calipers.

Dean · 2006-05-15, 05:44 AM

What do they sort of resemble?

khail19 · 2006-05-15, 07:35 AM

I was saying they resemble pods (not a typo) because each piston has its own little "bubble". So I could see why he would think they were pods and not pots.

cody · 2006-05-15, 07:59 AM

Pads, lines, and fluid definately did the trick for me. It's perfect for AutoX and spirited driving, but you need a set of race pads for the track.

Dean · 2006-05-15, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khail19

I was saying they resemble pods (not a typo) because each piston has its own little "bubble". So I could see why he would think they were pods and not pots.

I don't know... They look much more like Pots than Pods to me...

Joeyy · 2006-05-15, 12:23 PM

Dean, do they look anything like muffler bearings?

Dean · 2006-05-15, 01:16 PM

Not even close...
Muffler Bearings...

sperry · 2006-05-15, 01:41 PM

Let me know when I can move this thread from Technical to General. Or better yet, the trash bin.

Dean · 2006-05-15, 01:54 PM

Now

2006-05-14, 04:32 PM	#1
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	06 WRX brakes Question on street prepared rules. The rules talk about back dating for same model but diffrent years. If I'm reading the rules on backdating properly, I should be able to go with four pod front brakes and under brake rules should be able to run slotted rottors the same diameter as stock. Opinions please, I really don't want to rune modified.

2006-05-14, 04:57 PM	#2
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	You can already run slotted rotors. I am unsure about backdating though, I've never really looked into it. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-05-14, 05:15 PM	#3
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	You can only update/backdate with cars listed on the same line in the classing pages of the rule book, and only USDM versions. So if the brakes in question meet that criteria, then yes... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-05-14, 06:32 PM	#5
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Currently all WRXs appear on the same line in SP. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-05-14, 07:21 PM	#7
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	As of the current rules, yes. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-05-14, 06:21 PM	#4
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	I checked under appendix A and turbo Subaru is listed but how can I check on the 06 model? Thankyou for any help folks.

2006-05-14, 06:40 PM	#6
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	So Dean, even though I did not give you that kiss (no tongue), do you think my future may hold four pod front brakes and maybe even two pod rears if thats what the 06 has?

2006-05-14, 07:33 PM	#8
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	One more question before I start checking of pricing. What happens if the rules change and I'm looking at running a specific class?

2006-05-14, 07:36 PM	#9
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	You are stuck... The most likely conditon would be the splitting of the years and the 2.5l being moved to their own line. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-05-14, 07:46 PM	#10
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	Stuck in street prepared or stuck with the mod? My the way, good job on the grid today.

2006-05-14, 07:48 PM	#11
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	You will have to remove the mod, or change to a class that permits it. = Stuck... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-05-14, 07:56 PM	#12
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Honestly, having run Subaru 4 pots, it's not a real big help for autocross. The weight more than cancels out the larger pad surface IMO. If you plan to track the car much it would be worth it though for sure. And like Dean said, it will be legal until/if the line in Appendix A is changed. Then you would have to go to SM or take off the calipers. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-05-14, 07:58 PM	#13
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	Thanks for your help Mr. Dean. Guess I'd be safe with just slotted rottors and pads. Shoot, I need to look up brake lines. The things two days of autocross gets you thinking about.

2006-05-14, 08:01 PM	#14
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Brake lines are legal in everything but stock. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2006-05-14, 08:16 PM	#15
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	Thankyou all for your help. Time to move on to the brake pad thread and read a couple of times.

2006-05-15, 05:44 AM	#18
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	What do they sort of resemble? __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-05-15, 07:35 AM	#19
khail19 EJ205 Real Name: Khail Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,769 Car: 2016 VW GTI Meets? We have meets?	I was saying they resemble pods (not a typo) because each piston has its own little "bubble". So I could see why he would think they were pods and not pots.

2006-05-15, 07:59 AM	#20
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Pads, lines, and fluid definately did the trick for me. It's perfect for AutoX and spirited driving, but you need a set of race pads for the track. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-05-15, 12:23 PM	#22
Joeyy i can has kart? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,228	Dean, do they look anything like muffler bearings?

2006-05-15, 01:16 PM	#23
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Not even close... Muffler Bearings... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2006-05-15, 01:41 PM	#24
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Let me know when I can move this thread from Technical to General. Or better yet, the trash bin. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2006-05-15, 01:54 PM	#25
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	Now __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

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