RENO SCCA Club Trials Events...Lovelock

[MattR]

There are several events remaining on the club trials calendar for this season. All events take place on the high speed configuration at Lovelock Derby Field. Dates are as follows, and please sign up ealry thru myautoevents.com. It really helps the event planners if you sign up ahead of time. So far I see that Mike K, Kevin and Myself are all signed up. (Eric, Scott, Dean , Debbie??? otheres?)

This coming Weekend Aug 27 & 28
event info and sign up

September 4th, one day event.
event info and sign up

October 15 & 16
Two day event, just added, details soon.

[Kevin M]

Yep, I'm in this coming weekend pending arrival of tires and my roll bar, hopefully shocks too. Probably will make the October weekend as well, but not the Labor Dayone.

[M3n2c3]

I'm thinking about signing up for Sept 4th, but I have a few questions:

First, I'm not an SCCA member - how much will a day end up costing me?

Second, should I put SECCS as my "sponsor," just for representation, or does it not matter?

Third, since I'm new, is there any particular work assignment that is recommended?

And lastly, how long does it usually take one to get there from Reno? I wouldn't want to be late. . .

I'm sure I'll have more questions as the date draws closer.

[MattR]

Originally Posted by M3n2c3

I'm thinking about signing up for Sept 4th, but I have a few questions:

Honestly, I would recommend you skip the "Club Trials" events until you put in some time in Solo 2 events. The club trials are structured for more experienced racers, including working a corner alone, and running a very high speed track.

I'm not saying you wouldn't be able to run, but the Club Trials demand a very high level of car control and the way it's set up doesn' allow for a lot of guidance for a new person.

I hope a few of the others would chime in, with their thoughts, but I'd say feel it out with Solo2 events first.

Lovelock is an hour away, east on I80.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by MattR

Honestly, I would recommend you skip the "Club Trials" events until you put in some time in Solo 2 events. The club trials are structured for more experienced racers, including working a corner alone, and running a very high speed track.

I'm not saying you wouldn't be able to run, but the Club Trials demand a very high level of car control and the way it's set up doesn' allow for a lot of guidance for a new person.

I hope a few of the others would chime in, with their thoughts, but I'd say feel it out with Solo2 events first.

Lovelock is an hour away, east on I80.

As much as I hate telling someone that's enthusiastic and new to the sport "don't race", I have to agree with Matt. Club Trials are a bit much for someone just starting out. The course is difficult, and the speeds are very high (110+ mph), and a mistake pretty much guarentees a sideways trip into the desert, which in a stock-height car is about a 50/50 chance for a roll-over. There's a reason Club Trials events have an ambulance on site, and Solo2 events do not.

RenoSCCA has an *excellent* new Novice program for Solo2 autocross spearheaded by SECCS's own Dean Benz. I would suggest hitting up a few Solo2 events as a Novice before trying Trials. Hell, I've been autocrossing for about 5 years and Trials still gives me butterflys in my stomach... it's scarier than track days IMO.

However, if you're interested in coming out to Lovelock just to check out the event, by all means do so! The non-racing side of things are very laid back and fun. You'll be able to ride-along with someone on the warmup laps (IIRC), and you might be allowed to work a corner w/ an experienced worker if you're looking for some experience.

Also, keep in mind that Oct. 3rd is a Solo2 at Lovelock, so you could run that, then hang out the next day to to see what Club Trials are all about.

[MattR]

Originally Posted by sperry

Also, keep in mind that Oct. 3rd is a Solo2 at Lovelock, so you could run that, then hang out the next day to to see what Club Trials are all about.

Check that, Sept 3rd Lovelock Solo2. All good points Scott,thanks.

[M3n2c3]

Gotcha. It hadn't really sunk in yet that club racing is more intense than solo2. I'll have to do saturday, then. I'll shoot for the scheduled solo2 events on the 1st and 2nd of Oct, as well.

Once again, thanks for bringing me down to earth

Is there pre-registration required for solo2, or do you just show up?

Also, I see a Touring Rally scheduled for the 8th of Oct. Does anyone have experience with this? Road rally sounds like a bit of fun, but I'm curious as to whether it's worth trying or just boring.

[Kevin M]

I gotta third MAtt and Scott's opinions here. I'm finishing up my second full season here with Reno and this coming weekend is the first time I've made it out for Solo 1/Club Trials... and that's only because I have a new-to-me car that I need seat time in before winter gets here. I don't plan to be very competitive out there, it's just a test and tune for me basically. Like they said, mistakes have a habit of being big mistakes out there.

That said... circle the calender for the remaining Solo 2 events. They're a lot of fun, and you'll learn a ton every time out. See you out there man.

As for Touring rally, I haven't heard any details about this. AFAIK it may not even end up happening, but I haven't been at the monthly meetings to hear the details. It won't be a "rally" though- at most it would be a TSD rally, which means trying to average *exactly* the speed limit from one place to another. I think it was mainly conceived as a good reason for more people to get out to Lovelock than otherwise would.

[Nick Koan]

Test'n'tune at a club trials event?

[Dean]

OK, I read the Time Trial rules, and saw next to nothing on classing. do I have to go to the GCRs for those, or the Reno Sups?

I'm contemplating going this weekend if I can actually get some other stuff done this week. But I'm not betting on it.

[Kevin M]

Originally Posted by nKoan

Test'n'tune at a club trials event?

For me, yeah, basically. By which I mean, I'm not really going out there to worry about beating my competition (for one, I think I'm in Dave DeBorde's class ) but just getting a good feel for my car and learning how to deal with adjustable struts.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

For me, yeah, basically. By which I mean, I'm not really going out there to worry about beating my competition (for one, I think I'm in Dave DeBorde's class ) but just getting a good feel for my car and learning how to deal with adjustable struts.

I think Nick's point was that's the sort of thing you should be doing at 35-50 mph initially, not at 80-100 mph.

[M3n2c3]

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

As for Touring rally, I haven't heard any details about this. AFAIK it may not even end up happening, but I haven't been at the monthly meetings to hear the details. It won't be a "rally" though- at most it would be a TSD rally, which means trying to average *exactly* the speed limit from one place to another. I think it was mainly conceived as a good reason for more people to get out to Lovelock than otherwise would.

Right - I'm just trying to get a feel for whether it's worth putting effort into a time/speed/distance event on normal roads. It seems like it has the potential to get really boring unless they manage to find some entertaining roads.

[MattR]

Originally Posted by Dean

OK, I read the Time Trial rules, and saw next to nothing on classing. do I have to go to the GCRs for those, or the Reno Sups?

I'm contemplating going this weekend if I can actually get some other stuff done this week. But I'm not betting on it.

Dean, I don't remember where the TT classes were, but just enter TT2 with the rest of us, as there is no PAX anyway, then you can beat on the 'vette's too.

[Kevin M]

Dean's car is TT-3 I believe. 2.0 with X1.25 for DOHC and X3.0 for modified factory turbo.

[MikeK]

Dean, remember to switch ECUs so you can run full boost!

[qksubi]

My car is not done from being painted I cant go

[sperry]

Originally Posted by qksubi

My car is not done from being painted I cant go

At least you're getting your reflash for free now!

...at least you should, considering Gilson's made you miss three tuning appointments because they can't get anything done in time, the least they can do is cover your dyno time.

[Dean]

I have the AP in, and ST should show up some time in the near future from a Nasiocer in NY.

I found them in the Trail Sups...

http://www.renoscca.com/results/2005...TrialsSups.htm

I can't decide if you add all the multipliers first, and tehn multiply by displacement, or do displacemtn x multiplier 1 x multiplier ... x multiplier n = adjusted displacement.

I am 2.0, and think I have both the other turbo (1.75), and 4 valve/twin cam/V VT (1.25). SO that is 2.0 X 3{1.25+1.75) = 6.0 or 2.0 x 1.75 x 1.25 = 4.375

The former is TT-2 The later is TT-3

To be honest, I don't think I am going to make it do to a boat load of crap I have to do that I haven't done yet.

[MattR]

See ya guys, wish us luck

[MattR]

OKay, we're back...what a Kick ass weekend... Mike and I rep'd well...6th and 7th overall in RAW times bitches...

So much for my new paint job, hopefully I can get the front end all fixed before next weekend's event...

[Nick Koan]

Uh oh, what did you do this time?

[MattR]

Originally Posted by nKoan

Uh oh, what did you do this time?

I hurt my baby

[MikeK]

Originally Posted by nKoan

Uh oh, what did you do this time?

100+ mph + cones = parts flying

[MikeSTI]

Originally Posted by MikeK

100+ mph + cones = parts flying

what??? cones flying at a 100+ mph............man I would hate if one hit me