Gaugin Interest: Reno SCCA Track Day (PDE)

[MattR]

It was mentioned that there may possibly be a HPDE (high Performance Driving Experience) event open to all able cars at Reno Fernley raceway on the 12th of November. Cost will be between $125 and $150 for a full days run.

Event details will come later, there are some key choices Reno SCCA needs to make to pull this date off, but regardless...Who has an interst in attending for the day? You DO NOT have to be an SCCA member to attend.

As long as it comes together, I think I would go, its track time for cheap.

respond please.

SIGNED UP
1. Matt R #41
2. Nick H. #86 (cool # BTW)
3. Adam A.
4. Cody

[Kevin M]

Definitely. Track day for like $200 out the door? Hell yeah!

[cody]

I'm interested. Does it matter that I have never auto crossed or taken racing school classes? I can't even heal-toe yet. I'm working on it though.

[sperry]

I'm interested assuming I have a running car and some money.

[doubleurx]

Originally Posted by cody

I'm interested. Does it matter that I have never auto crossed or taken racing school classes? I can't even heal-toe yet. I'm working on it though.

I'm interested also.

Don't feel bad - I've gone to 8 track days, still haven't autocrossed and I still suck at heel toe...................hey wait a minute!

[cody]

Do you all put dedicated track brake pads, or are there any that would be okay for my first track day that I could use on the street without tons of noise and dust? Porterfields are a popular choice right?

[bemanii]

I'll do it.

[MikeSTI]

I still need tires, but might be interested.

I also my be able to get a few others. I know my mom would go and she has been asking for a friend that has a SL600 that wants in sometime.

[Dean]

Originally Posted by cody

Do you all put dedicated track brake pads, or are there any that would be okay for my first track day that I could use on the street without tons of noise and dust? Porterfields are a popular choice right?

Don't worry about heal-toe. For a first event of any type, fairly full thickness stock pads are probably OK, especially if you have stock tires to go with them. A set of Porterfiled R4-Ss though are my preffered choice.

[Nick Koan]

Very interested.

[doubleurx]

Originally Posted by nKoan

Very interested.

I $hit you not Nick. While I was reading this thread, on MusicMatch starts your favorite song.............."one more time"!

[Forgotten]

I think I would be able to make it to this one. Count me in.

[M3n2c3]

I might be able to scrape together the dough.

[tysonK]

It's on!

The SCCA meeting was pretty heated over having a track day like this.

I would love to see our group pull it together and get lots of poeple out there. From the responses here it looks good.

[Nick Koan]

Originally Posted by doubleurx

I $hit you not Nick. While I was reading this thread, on MusicMatch starts your favorite song.............."one more time"!

[cartman]I hate you guys[/cartman]

[cody]

Originally Posted by Dean

A set of Porterfiled R4-Ss though are my preffered choice.

Are the R4's streetable too? Will they stop the car on a January morning or do they have to be warmed up? I'm looking for pads that are the best compromise of streetability, fade resistence, low dust, value for the front and rear. TIA.

So, what's are the specifiics? Do I need a helmet? Is there a safe place to leave stuff (Spare and Jack)? How much track time should I expect? Do we go in waves or is it a free for all? Help, I'm a noooob.

TIA,
Cody

[Kevin M]

Originally Posted by cody

Are the R4's streetable too? Will they stop the car on a January morning or do they have to be warmed up? I'm looking for pads that are the best compromise of streetability, fade resistence, low dust, value for the front and rear.

It's better by far to just have 2 or even 3 different pad compounds on hand for different uses. One set for street use, especially in winter. One set for Solo 2 use to get maximum bite, and one set for track use for maximum fade resistance. There's no magic compound that does all 3 well, all you get is a pad that does at least one of those things poorly (or has other undesirable qualities like high rotor wear, noise, or dust) and probably isn't the best at any single use. Just like tire, if you only have one set you're compromising big time somewhewre- but the difference is, you can afford multiple sets of brake pads even if you can't afford multiple sets of wheels and tires.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by cody

Are the R4's streetable too? Will they stop the car on a January morning or do they have to be warmed up? I'm looking for pads that are the best compromise of streetability, fade resistence, low dust, value for the front and rear. TIA.

So, what's are the specifiics? Do I need a helmet? Is there a safe place to leave stuff (Spare and Jack)? How much track time should I expect? Do we go in waves or is it a free for all? Help, I'm a noooob.

TIA,
Cody

I have run the R4's on my WRX on the street for a bit. They're a little too harsh IMO. When you use them at a cold temperature for an extended period of time, they tend to remove the transfer layer of pad material from the rotor, essentially "un-bedding" them. The end result is that you start to eat the rotor a bit.

They stop decently at cold temps, but at the cost of rotor life. If you want double duty pads, grab the R-4S's, since they're more in line w/ a street pad, or do what I do now, run something like an Axxis Ultimate for the street/autocross, and use the R-4's for track days.

As far as track events:

You will probably want a helmet if you plan on getting into track or autocross. If you're just going to try it once, borrowing a helmet will get you by. At autocross there are loaner helmets, but at the track, you'll need to make arrangements beforehand.

The paddock will have plenty of friendly people to watch your stuff. Usually all the SECCS folk will pit together and not everyone is on track at the same time, so it's no big deal to leave your stuff out.

Track days usually have 3 or 4 groups that rotate going out on track for 20 to 30 minutes. So, you'll go out for 20 minutes, then have a 20 minute "download" session w/ the instructors after your session while another group runs, then one or two sessions in the pits, then you're back out on track.

Most events will get you 4 or 5 20 to 30 minutes sessions, or about an hour of track time, which is quite a bit. In fact, if you haven't done it before, you may end up being too tired by the last session to want to go out!

[cody]

Anybody want to lend/sell me a XL helmet?

Edit: Thanks for the good info.

Thanks,
Cody

[MattR]

Okay, here is the updated info for the event. Looks like to participants will have to work a corner or something during the event. I am not entirely sure of the breakdown in run time, but track time should not be an issue.

My assumption is that since this is an SCCA Event, we will only have passing on the main straight. Now, this would be a problem for sure if the run groups were huge, but I think the groups should be fairly small and split by skill level.

I have emailed the event organizer to clarify what the passing and grouping would be like. I'll keep you all posted. I want to support the SCCA, but its hard to do when there are other more attractive track days coming up.

[doubleurx]

Originally Posted by MattR

Okay, here is the updated info for the event. Looks like to participants will have to work a corner or something during the event. I am not entirely sure of the breakdown in run time, but track time should not be an issue.

My assumption is that since this is an SCCA Event, we will only have passing on the main straight. Now, this would be a problem for sure if the run groups were huge, but I think the groups should be fairly small and split by skill level.

I have emailed the event organizer to clarify what the passing and grouping would be like. I'll keep you all posted. I want to support the SCCA, but its hard to do when there are other more attractive track days coming up.

Since this is an SCCA event I assume that means running with windows up?

[MattR]

Originally Posted by doubleurx

Since this is an SCCA event I assume that means running with windows up?

I would say yes, this event is following the Club trials rules, which says "Driver's window Up". Basically, as an arm restraint for the driver. So you can run with the other 3 down, and the drivers cracked open like 2 inches. Strange rule, but its the rules.

[Pat R.]

Originally Posted by MattR

Okay, here is the updated info for the event. Looks like to participants will have to work a corner or something during the event.

No problem. I got a lot of practice waving the blue flag at Subarus while working the last RFR event.

[MattR]

You wish.

[MikeSTI]

does that mean convertibles have to have the top up? and if the stock roll bar doesnt clear the top of his helmet?