Track tire opinions - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

MattR · 2005-01-05, 10:10 PM

I am looking ot buy a more aggressive track, solo trial tire. I don't want to go with Hoosiers or Kumhos, I'd like to get a season's worth of use out of them. I have narrowed it down to two choices., I need to decide on a size though.

Toyo RA-1
235/45-17 on 8" Rim...Diameter 25.4/ Width 9.3 (Revs per mile 834).$188
235/40-17 on 8" Rim...Diameter 24.4/ Width 9.6 (Revs per mile 852).$177

or perhaps, a more entry level idea

Dunlop SP Super Sport Race
245/40-17 on 8" rim...Diameter 24.7/ Width 9.6...$119
225/45-17 on 8" Rim...Diameter 25 / Width 9.1...$119

The Toyo RA-1 is proven to perform in the applications I've listed. However, I've heard great things about the Dunlop, as a good first step toward full race tires.

Any thoughts.

Dean · 2005-01-05, 10:46 PM

I have run RA-1s, VictorRacers, Ecstas, R1As(RIP)...

RA-1s are not as good sticky as the Azenis Sports IMHO, but last very well especially on the track, but probably not worth the money. Ecstas are better than the Azenis, but must be shaved to keep from coming apart so probably last less. VictoRacers are better than the Ecstas, but you are stuck with 225/45-15 or 245/45-17s. A032Rs are probably equivelent to the Ecstas and not worrth the money. Dunlops are a new unknown. Reveiws on TireRack all appear OK, but somewhat inconsistant. Willneed to watch the shoulders...

For the price, I'd try the Dunlops. What the F. I was thinking about them as well.

MattR · 2005-01-06, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean

For the price, I'd try the Dunlops. What the F. I was thinking about them as well.

I was thinking the same thing..For occasional track and Solo trials, they might be just right..

AtomicLabMonkey · 2005-01-06, 08:17 AM

I can vouch for the RA-1's, since we use them on the yellow car. They hold up suprisingly well, good enough to last through several American Iron race weekends of brutal use. I would guess that for less intense use such as open track & solo trials, they could last a whole season. The prevailing opinion (among the Mustang crowd at least) is that they're the best value you can get.. not quite as sticky as something like the newer Kumho or Hoosier R's, but they'll last a hell of a lot longer.

Kevin M · 2005-01-06, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

I can vouch for the RA-1's, since we use them on the yellow car. They hold up suprisingly well, good enough to last through several American Iron race weekends of brutal use. I would guess that for less intense use such as open track & solo trials, they could last a whole season. The prevailing opinion (among the Mustang crowd at least) is that they're the best value you can get.. not quite as sticky as something like the newer Kumho or Hoosier R's, but they'll last a hell of a lot longer.

You don't have a spec tire in that series? I would have assumed you did, and that it was the RA-1 like every other spec tire series in this country.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2005-03-21, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

You don't have a spec tire in that series? I would have assumed you did, and that it was the RA-1 like every other spec tire series in this country.

Wow, I was browsing back and saw I missed this reply a while back, sorry Kevin. Yeah, RA-1s are our spec tire for AI. The "mustang crowd opinion" was based on people using other tires for open track events.

Kevin M · 2005-03-21, 03:21 PM

Heh, no biggie. It's not like I'm gearing up for my AI campaign next year.

Cool to know though.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2005-03-21, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Heh, no biggie. It's not like I'm gearing up for my AI campaign next year.

Cool to know though.

Aww, come on, we could use more cars.

Kevin M · 2005-03-21, 03:28 PM

Hey, if I get another EJ25 and toss it in the trunk, I'll have 8 cylinders with 5.0 liters of displacement...

sperry · 2005-03-21, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Hey, if I get another EJ25 and toss it in the trunk, I'll have 8 cylinders with 5.0 liters of displacement...

And 170hp in a 3400 lb car.

Kevin M · 2005-03-21, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Hey, if I get another EJ25 and toss it in the trunk, I'll have 8 cylinders with 5.0 liters of displacement...

And 170hp in a 3400 lb car.

Making me what, 30 hp and 300 pounds shy of the rest of the series?

And it's 175 bish.

sperry · 2005-03-21, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

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Originally Posted by sperry

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Hey, if I get another EJ25 and toss it in the trunk, I'll have 8 cylinders with 5.0 liters of displacement...

And 170hp in a 3400 lb car.

Making me what, 30 hp and 300 pounds shy of the rest of the series?

And it's 175 bish.

Assuming 300hp, an AI car will weigh 2850 lbs according to the 9.5:1 power:weight rule. Assuming your estimated 205hp, that car is only 1948 lbs... either way those cars would decimate you, me, and everyone else in the club.

MattR · 2005-03-21, 03:47 PM

Anyway, I'm going to get Yokohama A032 track tires now. It is decided.

MikeSTI · 2005-03-22, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MattR

Anyway, I'm going to get Yokohama A032 track tires now. It is decided.

do they make that tire in the "H" for the 245/40/17? I cant find it only in "S", did you make sure you got the right ones? Those tires are so nice

BOO · 2005-03-22, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MattR

Anyway, I'm going to get Yokohama A032 track tires now. It is decided.

YOKO Advan's

Awesome tires

qksubi · 2005-03-22, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BOO

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Originally Posted by MattR

Anyway, I'm going to get Yokohama A032 track tires now. It is decided.

YOKO Advan's

Awesome tires

I might be selling some from the EVO also they are on the stock rims if know any one who wants them let me know

BOO · 2005-03-22, 12:17 PM

Hmmm... what are you asking for them ??
just tires?? or are you wanting to get rid of them as a whole ?

qksubi · 2005-03-22, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BOO

Hmmm... what are you asking for them ??
just tires?? or are you wanting to get rid of them as a whole ?

Depends on the price they only have 2000 miles on the at the most and the rims are perfect!

2005-01-05, 10:10 PM	#1
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Track tire opinions I am looking ot buy a more aggressive track, solo trial tire. I don't want to go with Hoosiers or Kumhos, I'd like to get a season's worth of use out of them. I have narrowed it down to two choices., I need to decide on a size though. Toyo RA-1 235/45-17 on 8" Rim...Diameter 25.4/ Width 9.3 (Revs per mile 834).$188 235/40-17 on 8" Rim...Diameter 24.4/ Width 9.6 (Revs per mile 852).$177 or perhaps, a more entry level idea Dunlop SP Super Sport Race 245/40-17 on 8" rim...Diameter 24.7/ Width 9.6...$119 225/45-17 on 8" Rim...Diameter 25 / Width 9.1...$119 The Toyo RA-1 is proven to perform in the applications I've listed. However, I've heard great things about the Dunlop, as a good first step toward full race tires. Any thoughts. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2005-01-05, 10:46 PM	#2
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	I have run RA-1s, VictorRacers, Ecstas, R1As(RIP)... RA-1s are not as good sticky as the Azenis Sports IMHO, but last very well especially on the track, but probably not worth the money. Ecstas are better than the Azenis, but must be shaved to keep from coming apart so probably last less. VictoRacers are better than the Ecstas, but you are stuck with 225/45-15 or 245/45-17s. A032Rs are probably equivelent to the Ecstas and not worrth the money. Dunlops are a new unknown. Reveiws on TireRack all appear OK, but somewhat inconsistant. Willneed to watch the shoulders... For the price, I'd try the Dunlops. What the F. I was thinking about them as well. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2005-01-06, 08:17 AM	#4
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	I can vouch for the RA-1's, since we use them on the yellow car. They hold up suprisingly well, good enough to last through several American Iron race weekends of brutal use. I would guess that for less intense use such as open track & solo trials, they could last a whole season. The prevailing opinion (among the Mustang crowd at least) is that they're the best value you can get.. not quite as sticky as something like the newer Kumho or Hoosier R's, but they'll last a hell of a lot longer. __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2005-03-21, 03:21 PM	#7
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Heh, no biggie. It's not like I'm gearing up for my AI campaign next year. Cool to know though. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2005-03-21, 03:28 PM	#9
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Hey, if I get another EJ25 and toss it in the trunk, I'll have 8 cylinders with 5.0 liters of displacement... __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2005-03-21, 03:47 PM	#13
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Anyway, I'm going to get Yokohama A032 track tires now. It is decided. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2005-03-22, 12:17 PM	#17
BOO EJ205 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, Nevada Posts: 2,076 Car: 12+tires Class: Spec. without hard work, nothing grows but weeds	Hmmm... what are you asking for them ?? just tires?? or are you wanting to get rid of them as a whole ? __________________ LOL.. The other White Meat ... lol ------------------------------------------------ subaru(STi) is a boys car, mitsubishi(evo) is a man's car - Jeremy (Top Gear) GC,GD,GM

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