GT4 Challenge - Page 3 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

cody · 2006-01-11, 09:22 AM

There's no definate "last day", but if nobody beats Sperry's current time by next Tuesday at 11:28PM, he wins.

bemani · 2006-01-11, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Ruh Roh... is that a JDM copy? I'm pretty sure there are inconsistancies between the JDM and USDM versions of the game... let's hope the car performance and track layouts aren't some of them!

Yeah it is the JPN version. I believe the changes between the 2 are on the license tests and challenges where they adjust the times to make it easier/harder.

cody · 2006-01-11, 10:19 AM

It's a debacle!

bemani · 2006-01-11, 05:48 PM

New time.

I can squeeze another .3s, I know ...

bxracer69 · 2006-01-11, 06:40 PM

HAHA!!!! I just beat that,

1'27.219

ill see if my roomate will let me borrow his digital camera when he gets home

doubleurx · 2006-01-11, 11:06 PM

You got a long way to go.

125.387 rss tires. Has anyone tried the difference in their driving between auto and manual. Auto I could bearly break 127.

I'll try the steering wheel this weekend.

sperry · 2006-01-11, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx

You got a long way to go.

125.387 rss tires. Has anyone tried the difference in their driving between auto and manual. Auto I could bearly break 127.

I'll try the steering wheel this weekend.

I'm on manual, w/ the wheel... as always.

Any chance you can vid cap a replay of that lap? I gotta see where you picked up over 2 seconds.

And just to make sure... you're not dicking w/ the hp or weight, are you?

Edit: after 2 laps with the hp up and the weight down, and the gearing changed to match the track, I ran a 1'24.607 with a ton of mistakes. Which raises the question, what are we allowed to change? I was assuming only the tires since that's all that was stipulated in the original post... are we allowed to change everything that arcade mode allows?

bemani · 2006-01-11, 11:57 PM

I thought the whole point of the arcade mode is so you have a standard car where you don't even have the difference of the oil change like GT mode.

sperry · 2006-01-12, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bemani

I thought the whole point of the arcade mode is so you have a standard car where you don't even have the difference of the oil change like GT mode.

Yeah, but there are handicap settings, like +/- power, +/- weight, top speed (gear ratios), and tires.

According to the original challenge, we're allowed to change tires, but nothing was mentioned about the other settings. IMO, we might as well allow any changes arcade mode allows, just so there's no question about someone bumping up a little hp just to get that extra .1s.

cody · 2006-01-12, 01:16 AM

I agree with Sperry. I didn't know these settings were available either. Might as well use them if they're there.

zpeed · 2006-01-12, 08:07 AM

1.30+ then I drop the weight got me a best time 1.29.060. got to try more power and gear ratio thing. So all setting go right? Damn 1'24 now...long ways for me.

JonnydaJibba · 2006-01-12, 08:43 AM

I'm confused. So we aren't using the car stock? I thought an oil change fer sure, but that's it. Somebody explain damn it.

cody · 2006-01-12, 08:46 AM

I didn't think you could do oil changes in arcade mode. I haven't even looked to see where these "handicap" settings are. But do whatever you can to make your car faster within the posted rules, I guess.

Double Phister · 2006-01-12, 09:02 AM

License tests eliminate all of the variables (except for bemani's JDM version).

Isn't there a superlicense test on the 'ring?

doubleurx · 2006-01-12, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

I'm on manual, w/ the wheel... as always.

Any chance you can vid cap a replay of that lap? I gotta see where you picked up over 2 seconds.

And just to make sure... you're not dicking w/ the hp or weight, are you?

No, I was in standard arcade mode, no messing with the car. I did not save it, but I know I can repeat it this weekend. I did have several runs in the 1:26's. I'm going to try it with the wheel this weekend. I will save the replay. I was also using the ghost mode which I think helped with my times, although at several locations on the track the ghost was doing the identical speed and location so I couldn't see crap. The places where you gain time are obvious: hitting 8/9/10/11 are absolutely key.

Now if I could just translate that driving to reality!

Remember I am also playing in front of a 57" widescreen to help my old tired eyes.

zpeed · 2006-01-12, 10:06 AM

This is it. That all I need 57" wide screen. Nice

bemani · 2006-01-12, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleurx

No, I was in standard arcade mode, no messing with the car. I did not save it, but I know I can repeat it this weekend. I did have several runs in the 1:26's. I'm going to try it with the wheel this weekend. I will save the replay. I was also using the ghost mode which I think helped with my times, although at several locations on the track the ghost was doing the identical speed and location so I couldn't see crap. The places where you gain time are obvious: hitting 8/9/10/11 are absolutely key.

Now if I could just translate that driving to reality!

Remember I am also playing in front of a 57" widescreen to help my old tired eyes.

What were your sector times for the 1:25 run?

cody · 2006-01-12, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bemani

New time.

I can squeeze another .3s, I know ...

Until you guys with better times post screenshots, I think this is our currentl leader right?

sperry · 2006-01-12, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

Until you guys with better times post screenshots, I think this is our currentl leader right?

Right, though if you adjust the handicaps, it's a breeze to get into the 1'24's, so it won't last long. I think I've got a low 1'23 in me, but if Nick really ran a 1'25 w/o touching the weight or power, we're all boned once he cranks up the power and cranks down the weight.

However, if Nick can't match his controller performance w/ the wheel, then I think we've got proof that GT4 favors the dualshock w/ all the assist it gives the driver. You'd think they'd make the wheel work better than the controller just so they'd sell more wheels.

cody · 2006-01-12, 10:42 AM

So just to clarify, you guys are adjusting the weight and power in arcade mode right? Is it easy to find these handicap settings?

tysonK · 2006-01-12, 10:42 AM

If the game without a doubt was better with the wheel I think it might hurt sales, of the game, because everyone has a controller but not everyone will spring for a wheel.

cody · 2006-01-12, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysonK

If the game without a doubt was better with the wheel I think it might hurt sales, of the game, because everyone has a controller but not everyone will spring for a wheel.

I don't think that's necesarily true. Does the fact that the STI is faster than the WRX hurt overall Impreza sales?

sperry · 2006-01-12, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tysonK

If the game without a doubt was better with the wheel I think it might hurt sales, of the game, because everyone has a controller but not everyone will spring for a wheel.

That's only true for the people racing other people like in this challenge.

Besides... the game *is* without a doubt "better" with a wheel. It's way more fun. I'm just not sure that the wheel isn't a handicap. I'm not saying Nick's not a good driver, but I think the best I could do is within about 1 second of him. There's just no place to pick up that much time.

Also, if they sold half as many games, but every game sold with a wheel, I bet they'd make more money... the wheels' are like $150+, and probably cost like $30 to manufacture, if that.

JonnydaJibba · 2006-01-12, 11:54 AM

So you guys are fuckin with the cars shit in arcade mode then? 1.24 doesn't seem that hard esp. if you do that. I was just using RSS tires.

tysonK · 2006-01-12, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cody

I don't think that's necesarily true. Does the fact that the STI is faster than the WRX hurt overall Impreza sales?

I see no way of comparing a video game dynamic to specific auto industry sales.

I don't think the option to buy a wheel in game correlates with the process of spending $6,000 more in a car purchase.

2006-01-11, 09:22 AM	#51
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	There's no definate "last day", but if nobody beats Sperry's current time by next Tuesday at 11:28PM, he wins. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-01-11, 10:19 AM	#53
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	It's a debacle! __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-01-11, 06:40 PM	#55
bxracer69 EJ22 Real Name: Nick Langkamp Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the Road Posts: 384 Car: 2003 Mitsubishi Evo8 Class: SM Snowboarding....Because gravity is cheaper than gas	HAHA!!!! I just beat that, 1'27.219 ill see if my roomate will let me borrow his digital camera when he gets home __________________ My better is better than your best. My fast smells like french toast. www.langkampracing.com

2006-01-11, 11:57 PM	#58
bemani EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 160 Car: 05 LGT 02 WRX Class: SM	I thought the whole point of the arcade mode is so you have a standard car where you don't even have the difference of the oil change like GT mode. Last edited by bemani; 2006-01-11 at 11:59 PM.

2006-01-12, 01:16 AM	#60
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I agree with Sperry. I didn't know these settings were available either. Might as well use them if they're there. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-01-11, 05:48 PM	#54
bemani EJ22 Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 160 Car: 05 LGT 02 WRX Class: SM	New time. I can squeeze another .3s, I know ...

2006-01-11, 11:06 PM	#56
doubleurx EJ205 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Truckee Posts: 1,948	You got a long way to go. 125.387 rss tires. Has anyone tried the difference in their driving between auto and manual. Auto I could bearly break 127. I'll try the steering wheel this weekend.

2006-01-12, 08:07 AM	#61
zpeed EJ251 Real Name: Nat S Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno, NV USA Posts: 743 Car: 06 S2000 Class: RNP & PDX	1.30+ then I drop the weight got me a best time 1.29.060. got to try more power and gear ratio thing. So all setting go right? Damn 1'24 now...long ways for me.

2006-01-12, 08:43 AM	#62
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	I'm confused. So we aren't using the car stock? I thought an oil change fer sure, but that's it. Somebody explain damn it. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

2006-01-12, 08:46 AM	#63
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I didn't think you could do oil changes in arcade mode. I haven't even looked to see where these "handicap" settings are. But do whatever you can to make your car faster within the posted rules, I guess. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-01-12, 09:02 AM	#64
Double Phister EJ22 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Elk Grove, CA Posts: 450 Car: 2005 WRX STi "I'm sideways and in control... I look good."	License tests eliminate all of the variables (except for bemani's JDM version). Isn't there a superlicense test on the 'ring? __________________ Dan - '05 Black WRX STi. My Mods

2006-01-12, 10:06 AM	#66
zpeed EJ251 Real Name: Nat S Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno, NV USA Posts: 743 Car: 06 S2000 Class: RNP & PDX	This is it. That all I need 57" wide screen. Nice

2006-01-12, 10:42 AM	#70
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	So just to clarify, you guys are adjusting the weight and power in arcade mode right? Is it easy to find these handicap settings? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2006-01-12, 10:42 AM	#71
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	If the game without a doubt was better with the wheel I think it might hurt sales, of the game, because everyone has a controller but not everyone will spring for a wheel. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2006-01-12, 11:54 AM	#74
JonnydaJibba EJ207 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Reno/Sparks, Nevada Posts: 3,482 Car: 2000 2.5RS Class: RestNPeace Master Slurper.	So you guys are fuckin with the cars shit in arcade mode then? 1.24 doesn't seem that hard esp. if you do that. I was just using RSS tires. __________________ "Why do chicks tell you to call and then not answer....so gay." "Cuz girls are fags I dunno"

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