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hey if any of you guys need a tune i know somone in town that dosnt charge very much i think it was 150 for 2 hours and 200 after that so if u have a wrx or sti and wanna get a tune he dose a really good job just pm me and i will give you more info and he is pretty known in reno 2

Post his info here.

I'm just confused about how my past tunes weren't "real" tunes. I guess getting dyno tuned by someone that does World Challenge touring cars and dominate Time Attack cars isn't "real".

What AWD dyno in Reno is this guy using? *snicker*

lol no dyno just a guy that dose evos and stis here in town lol and i didnt mean it like that lol and we arnt talking about past tunes i was talking about the cobb ap that u only get like 10 2 15 hp from and thats it

An AccessPort can make just as much or as little power as any other engine management system assuming the proper mods and tuning.

There's nothing in the AP that prevents someone from pushing the snot out of the hardware they've got assuming they're willing to risk their motor, and in fact because the AP is so much more mature than the open source offerings for re-mapping the stock ECU, I would highly suggest the AP and a competent tuner w/ a dyno over other alternatives unless someone has a legitimate reason not to run the factory ECU.

lol awsome man well i had a ap and fucking hated it i sold it a week later and went and got a tune and its way better then a shitty ass cobb mapmy car was knocking all over the place with the ap so i sold it for 150 and went to this guy and now i have no knock what so over and i wass running rich as fuck with the ap aswell my afrs with the ap were in the mid 2 high 9s with 16psi

but i understand were you are coming from im just saying if somone wants 2 get a tune there is somone in town that can do it for cheap but idk my bad

Punctuation, you should try it some time.

lol oh ok my bad
and no i wont try it to make u happy:)

That wasn't the AP's fault. It's just a tool for getting a map into the stock ECU.

Sounds like you had a crappy map. Plenty of folks here are running AP's w/o any issue. I know I had a great tune on my car via the AP before going to a setup that required a stand-alone EM. If your tuner was licensed to tune the AP, he could have tuned your car that way, probably more easily than whatever tool he used (I'm guessing it was open source?).

Now, instead of pitching someone locally for tuning, why not just have him post for himself? Why not at least give us his name? I know if I was the guy I wouldn't want all this secretiveness and potential miss-information going around from some guys talking about me on a local forum.

his name is simon guo and my car ran like that with the map i loaded on my car that was already in the pile of shit

and yea he uses open source

and i would use open source over cobb any day of the week and u can get more out of open source

Again, I'm not sure what you're talking about w/ the AP map. Blaming the AP for your original poor tune is like blaming a wrench for a loose bolt.

The AP is just something that uploads engine maps into the stock ECU. The quality/appropriateness of the map for your car has nothing to do with the AP itself, and in fact the AP's tuning interface is one of the better ones which usually means that tuners that use the AP can make better maps faster than with other tools.

Personally, I'd rather have a tuner that's got a Cobb license, a shop, a dyno, and lots of existing satisfied customers to knock me out a solid map in an hour on a dyno for $200 than to save $50 to have someone who's claim-to-fame is that he can "make more power than the AccessPort" road tune me w/ a tactrix cable and the crappy open source tuning software. Maybe I don't have all the facts about Simon's setup, and you certainly seem happy with the end result, but I can only call 'em like I see 'em.

That's patently false. Both the AP and the open source stuff modify the same ECU. The open source stuff has some additional features like flat-foot shifting, launch control, and other gimmicks, but the limiting factor for power and reliability on both setups is the VE of the motor and your willingness to push it.

lol wait i never tuned the ap so yea it is there falt it came out of the boxx from cobb like thatbut anyways lets stop arguing about this it is fucking stupid sorry i wrot this and if you want just delete it u got some good points but i would still not go back 2 a cobb ap

Cobb has put out several "off the shelf" maps for different setups. They don't know where you live or how your car will run on that map so they have to leave it pretty safe to keep everyone from killing their cars. You can buy a turkey sandwich from 7/11 that will work for most people or you can go to port of subs and get a tuned turkey sandwich. :lol: mmm turkey sandwich

ahahahhahahah thats great lol true that thats why i ditched it cuz it was running rich and then had somone tune it with a wideband and a couple highway pulls and my the car was tunned 2 what 19 psi for stage 2 with a cobb and with are elavation of course that shit ant going to happen we had 2 set my target boost2 19 psi for it 2 hit 17.9 cuz of the elavation up here ..........and also if any of you guys are thinking about going with xpttuning.com maps dont do it there gay worthless maps for sure

Wow,

Simon is a pretty good tuner I know him he has used my garage a couple times. But I would agree that a licensed tuner with a shop and insurance is a little safer...

I was never commenting on this Simon guy.

I'm just trying not to vilify the AccessPort for stichris' bad original tune. The AP is only as good as the map it's got. But as far as map creation and delivery methods go, the AP is supposed to be one of the best. Hell anything has got to be better than the non-live tuning of the free open source tools, or the 1992 look and feel of the v2.5 Hydra I've got. :lol:

Cobb AP *version 2* is better. It can make any changes that open source can do, but it can also do real-time tuning and store multiple maps for things like valet, high/low elevation, race gas, etc. Its main (perhaps only) disadvantage is price.

Open Source is cheaper, but you cannot do live tuning (yet), and you cannot (yet) store multiple maps for quick change-over. On a budget with a simple stage 1 or 2 or 2+ setup it is the way to go.

Either method is only as good as the "map" loaded into it, and they are essentially exactly the same once it is loaded into the ECU.

and actuly i didnt get free ones i payed 300 for the maps i bought with open source and oh yea i forgot you can up the boost and adjust timing and allllll that shit with a ap my bad

Exactly who the fuck are you calling a "faggit"?

not you so dont fucking worrie about it

Wat!

Calm down there punchy.

lol yeaa im sorry guys i agree lol it was a lil retardid how i acted when somone was just asking questions so sorry

Simon is a good guy who has been tuning forever, back with hondas to mostly EVO's now..

So much hostility :(

Any map that comes pre loaded on the Cobb AP is simply a base map. It will react diferently on every car. Our elevation is high but it is comparable to saltlake city where The Cobb maps are created. I had a custom tune made for my AP by a local named Cory. From what he said Ed is the one who taught him how to tune and he did a pretty bang up job.

I head west quite often so we purposely tuned my car to run a little rich to avoid the posibility of running lean in 0 evelation. Atmospheric pressure in Reno Vs Sac is a pretty big differance.

Ed's going to make a realtime map for me to run when driving hard at sea level when I visit his shop in Fairfield in a couple weeks. He said it's not necessary, but it's good to dial back the timing and double check the AFR's if you are tuned for 5K feet, like I am.

When I asked about it, he said it's actually safer to get tuned at sea level and drive hard at altitude as apposed to getting tuned at elevation and driving hard at sea level...primarily because of all of the timing you can run up here.

You about nailed it. Since I didn't have the opportunity to get tuned at sea level I had to do the next best thing which is some timing tweaks and rich AFR. I don't plan on running it too hard down there. My main reason for going is Warped tour SF. :)

I'd say about 10-15% of my driving is done at sea level on the hi elevation map but I rarely get on it. If you were tuned up here and then went to a track day without adjusting the tune, that's when bad things can happen, I think. But you make a good point. A wise tuner will design a map that won't kill the car the first time you try to pass someone at sea level.

The biggest problem IMHO with tuning at altitude is when the intake calibration table is correct.

If you are running anything other than the stock intake or one there is a COBB map for, you are playing with fire if you don't spend a good amount of time adjusting that table which likely requires going up and down altitude.

At least some tuners do a lot of their fuel work in the A/F tables to get the O2 numbers they want, and if you have an improper intake calibration, you can get into real trouble when you change altitude because the barometric tables don't know that the intake calibration is wrong.

Thanks man!:D