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100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-01 02:11 PM

Where to go to resurface a flywheel?
 
Is Reno Clutch & Brake the only place in town to resurface a flywheel? I just called them and they said it would be $40 which seems a little high to me.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-01 02:17 PM

Also, I just talked to Michael at Trans Craft (who does resurface flywheels) and he said that a wrx flywheel should technically not be resurfaced because of the construction. He said because it is a dual mass flywheel and due to the shape of the bottom it can't be securely mated to the table. He said that he has done a few before for in house jobs and they set it up with dial indicators and follow the flywheel the entire time to make sure its ok but, he doesn't recommend doing it. He would charge $50.

MattR 2009-10-01 02:32 PM

Couldn't you have conducted this conversation in your head? hahaha....

J/k, I have nothing to add.

sperry 2009-10-01 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice (Post 140282)
Also, I just talked to Michael at Trans Craft (who does resurface flywheels) and he said that a wrx flywheel should technically not be resurfaced because of the construction. He said because it is a dual mass flywheel and due to the shape of the bottom it can't be securely mated to the table. He said that he has done a few before for in house jobs and they set it up with dial indicators and follow the flywheel the entire time to make sure its ok but, he doesn't recommend doing it. He would charge $50.

I didn't think the WRX had a dual mass flywheel... wasn't that only recently added to the turbo legacies?

Nick Koan 2009-10-01 02:36 PM

Yeah, as I understand it, my 05 Legacy GT has a dual mass flywheel, and was the first Subaru (at least in the new turbo era) to have one.

When I was looking at options, I was thinking of going with a WRX clutch and flywheel from an '02-'06 since they were all single mass. In the end, I went with Exedy for an 02-06 WRX.

Regardless, $40 sounds like a price I was quoted for resurfacing before I told them about the dual mass.

MPREZIV 2009-10-02 06:28 AM

Take it to Reno Clutch and Brake, and pay them the $40. Since "Michael" has no idea what he's talking about, I wouldn't trust him with it. Just my opinion.

Nick hit the nail on the head.

ARORA_808 2009-10-02 07:35 AM

Joel, reno clutch and brake..... they just did the S4's flywheel and its a dual mass..... and they did the Sti's and the TR's and a whole bunch of honda's in the past, $40 is a good price.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-02 07:44 AM

Thanks for the input guys. I think I will do that. I guess the first thing I can do is post a picture of my flywheel to see if it looks like it needs to be resurfaced. I will do that today.

cody 2009-10-02 08:08 AM

With all the problems you had with your clutch, I'd think a fresh surface would be good regardless of how it looks, but I have no idea what I'm talking about, just a guess.

Dean 2009-10-02 08:10 AM

At one point, RCB advertised free flywheel turning with clutch purchase... not sure if that is still true, but worth considering if you are buying parts as well.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-02 08:38 AM

I already have a new Exedy stage 1 organic clutch kit sitting in the garage. Cody, I am currently running the gruppe-s LW flywheel which is in my opinion, the cause of my problems. The flywheel that I am talking about resurfacing is the stock flywheel that I kept from the first time I replaced the clutch. You do have a good point though, I don't want to really horse around with the clutch since I am growing tired of having to take my transmission out.

cody 2009-10-02 09:00 AM

That's the clutch I have along with an Act Streetlite flywheel. It'll be nice for you to get rid of the deceleration noise going back to the stock flywheel. :) I am happy with my setup though.

What are the reviews like on the Gruppe-S FW?

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-02 09:15 AM

I have never searched for the reviews and I think that was my downfall. At the time they were selling the clutch for a price that no other vendors could touch and it was packaged with their LW flywheel. I don't think I am the only one to complain about it but really I have nothing to compare it to. All I know is that I have about 5 friends with the same exedy stage 1 clutch including you who say, "yeah that feels different than my clutch".

cody 2009-10-02 09:20 AM

Ya, it felt like launching with E-brake on.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-02 09:28 AM

Yeah, so once I go back to the stock flywheel it should be good. If not, I guess I can try to figure out what else is wrong.

Kevin M 2009-10-02 11:10 AM

I'd still recommend the ACT Streetlite if you're able to spring the $230 bucks or so you can find them for. Excellent mod. I've used 3.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-02 11:16 AM

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Here are a few pictures of my stocker. There was some rust on it from leaving it outside a little last year. I just scrubbed it off with a little sandpaper.

ARORA_808 2009-10-02 07:07 PM

The starter ring looks a little chewed up, and its pretty rusty, ever thought of just buying a new one? It cant be that expensive....lol, just check the price on one from audi for the S4 and you will gladly pay for a new one for the subie.....Oh and be sure to change that throw out bearing...it looks nasty.....I know you know, but never hurts to remind. :)

cody 2009-10-02 09:25 PM

I could sell you my stocker. It only saw the stock clutch.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-02 10:58 PM

My stocker only saw the stock clutch... and your mom! Anyways, I just decided to resurface the clutch myself. I think I did a pretty swell job. I will post pics tomorrow.

cody 2009-10-03 03:42 PM

Ya, but I didn't try to start the car when it was already running a billion times and then leave it outside to get nice and rusty.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-03 06:23 PM

I'm just playing. The wear on the starter ring is very minimal and all the rust came off pretty easy. I took it to Reno Clutch & Brake which is now at the top of N. Edison. They did a great job, had it back to me in 20min and it only cost $30. Also, they gave me a price on the clutch kit and if you figure in the cost of having your flywheel resurfaced for free by them, they pretty much match the best internet deal and you get plus the bonus of them being local to honor the clutch warranty.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-04 05:20 PM

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I just took my old clutch out(exedy stage 1 organic) and placed it next to my new clutch (exedy stage 1 organic). Clearly the clutch disc is different. The pressure plate appears to be the same even though it has different numbers on it. So either Exedy upgraded their stage 1 disc in the last 2 years or Gruppe-s sold me an Exedy OEM replacement disc the first time. I tired to do some searching on NASIOC but it seems the site is down. Does anyone have any ideas? Also, the new throwout bearing has a lot of high temp grease on the arms. Should I clean a little off or just clean it all off?

Kevin M 2009-10-04 05:39 PM

That may very well be the OEM disc. Can you see any numbers on it still?

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-04 06:10 PM

Numbers on the old disc
TA015B
6M05A

Numbers on the new disc
RU230A101
8K07A

Numbers on the old pressure plate
6M15
H22513
483001
6L30


Numbers on the new pressure plate
8K09
H22513
483001
8J22


The numbers in dark red were stamped on 2 different spring arms instead of on the outside rim of the pressure plate.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-05 08:28 AM

So I called up Exedy and talked to a guy in the tech support section named Evan. He races a wrx himself so I new I was on the phone with the right person. I asked if they made a change to the wrx clutch kit and he said they went from 6 springs to 4. He said they were receiving complaints about chatter and then did this to resolve those few complaints. I also asked him about clutch break in and he suggested to drive easy for 500 miles (no launching, speed shifting, etc.) and then I can drive it normally.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-05 02:45 PM

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This thread kind of went away from flywheel resurfacing so can we merge this with my i can has new clutch thread.?

So, I have had a very slight leak on the right side of my transmission since I reinstalled it last time. It appears that I tore a little piece on the axle seal. I know there is a right side and left side seal but, my question is can I replace it right now without having to take the transmission apart?

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-05 05:30 PM

I got 2 new seals and replaced them. It took about 5 minutes and was very much needed. When I picked up the new ones from Subaru I said "these can't be right, mine look nothing like that". Well that's because each of mine were missing an entire piece and also a little round spring thingy had come off of each of them and was floating around in my diff. I was able to get all the pieces out but it confirms that the shop did NOT replace my axle seals like they stated.

Kevin M 2009-10-05 07:58 PM

Either that (which is not unlikely) or whatever ruined your old axle seals wasn't fixed and ruined the new ones too.

100_Percent_Juice 2009-10-05 09:11 PM

They looked really old and the ruined part was on the outside. Also, the numbers on the seals didn't match the new ones that I got.


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