Where to go to resurface a flywheel? - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-01, 02:11 PM

Is Reno Clutch & Brake the only place in town to resurface a flywheel? I just called them and they said it would be $40 which seems a little high to me.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-01, 02:17 PM

Also, I just talked to Michael at Trans Craft (who does resurface flywheels) and he said that a wrx flywheel should technically not be resurfaced because of the construction. He said because it is a dual mass flywheel and due to the shape of the bottom it can't be securely mated to the table. He said that he has done a few before for in house jobs and they set it up with dial indicators and follow the flywheel the entire time to make sure its ok but, he doesn't recommend doing it. He would charge $50.

MattR · 2009-10-01, 02:32 PM

Couldn't you have conducted this conversation in your head? hahaha....

J/k, I have nothing to add.

sperry · 2009-10-01, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

Also, I just talked to Michael at Trans Craft (who does resurface flywheels) and he said that a wrx flywheel should technically not be resurfaced because of the construction. He said because it is a dual mass flywheel and due to the shape of the bottom it can't be securely mated to the table. He said that he has done a few before for in house jobs and they set it up with dial indicators and follow the flywheel the entire time to make sure its ok but, he doesn't recommend doing it. He would charge $50.

I didn't think the WRX had a dual mass flywheel... wasn't that only recently added to the turbo legacies?

Nick Koan · 2009-10-01, 02:36 PM

Yeah, as I understand it, my 05 Legacy GT has a dual mass flywheel, and was the first Subaru (at least in the new turbo era) to have one.

When I was looking at options, I was thinking of going with a WRX clutch and flywheel from an '02-'06 since they were all single mass. In the end, I went with Exedy for an 02-06 WRX.

Regardless, $40 sounds like a price I was quoted for resurfacing before I told them about the dual mass.

MPREZIV · 2009-10-02, 06:28 AM

Take it to Reno Clutch and Brake, and pay them the $40. Since "Michael" has no idea what he's talking about, I wouldn't trust him with it. Just my opinion.

Nick hit the nail on the head.

ARORA_808 · 2009-10-02, 07:35 AM

Joel, reno clutch and brake..... they just did the S4's flywheel and its a dual mass..... and they did the Sti's and the TR's and a whole bunch of honda's in the past, $40 is a good price.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-02, 07:44 AM

Thanks for the input guys. I think I will do that. I guess the first thing I can do is post a picture of my flywheel to see if it looks like it needs to be resurfaced. I will do that today.

cody · 2009-10-02, 08:08 AM

With all the problems you had with your clutch, I'd think a fresh surface would be good regardless of how it looks, but I have no idea what I'm talking about, just a guess.

Dean · 2009-10-02, 08:10 AM

At one point, RCB advertised free flywheel turning with clutch purchase... not sure if that is still true, but worth considering if you are buying parts as well.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-02, 08:38 AM

I already have a new Exedy stage 1 organic clutch kit sitting in the garage. Cody, I am currently running the gruppe-s LW flywheel which is in my opinion, the cause of my problems. The flywheel that I am talking about resurfacing is the stock flywheel that I kept from the first time I replaced the clutch. You do have a good point though, I don't want to really horse around with the clutch since I am growing tired of having to take my transmission out.

cody · 2009-10-02, 09:00 AM

That's the clutch I have along with an Act Streetlite flywheel. It'll be nice for you to get rid of the deceleration noise going back to the stock flywheel.

I am happy with my setup though.

What are the reviews like on the Gruppe-S FW?

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-02, 09:15 AM

I have never searched for the reviews and I think that was my downfall. At the time they were selling the clutch for a price that no other vendors could touch and it was packaged with their LW flywheel. I don't think I am the only one to complain about it but really I have nothing to compare it to. All I know is that I have about 5 friends with the same exedy stage 1 clutch including you who say, "yeah that feels different than my clutch".

cody · 2009-10-02, 09:20 AM

Ya, it felt like launching with E-brake on.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-02, 09:28 AM

Yeah, so once I go back to the stock flywheel it should be good. If not, I guess I can try to figure out what else is wrong.

Kevin M · 2009-10-02, 11:10 AM

I'd still recommend the ACT Streetlite if you're able to spring the $230 bucks or so you can find them for. Excellent mod. I've used 3.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-02, 11:16 AM

Here are a few pictures of my stocker. There was some rust on it from leaving it outside a little last year. I just scrubbed it off with a little sandpaper.

ARORA_808 · 2009-10-02, 07:07 PM

The starter ring looks a little chewed up, and its pretty rusty, ever thought of just buying a new one? It cant be that expensive....lol, just check the price on one from audi for the S4 and you will gladly pay for a new one for the subie.....Oh and be sure to change that throw out bearing...it looks nasty.....I know you know, but never hurts to remind.

cody · 2009-10-02, 09:25 PM

I could sell you my stocker. It only saw the stock clutch.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-02, 10:58 PM

My stocker only saw the stock clutch... and your mom! Anyways, I just decided to resurface the clutch myself. I think I did a pretty swell job. I will post pics tomorrow.

cody · 2009-10-03, 03:42 PM

Ya, but I didn't try to start the car when it was already running a billion times and then leave it outside to get nice and rusty.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-03, 06:23 PM

I'm just playing. The wear on the starter ring is very minimal and all the rust came off pretty easy. I took it to Reno Clutch & Brake which is now at the top of N. Edison. They did a great job, had it back to me in 20min and it only cost $30. Also, they gave me a price on the clutch kit and if you figure in the cost of having your flywheel resurfaced for free by them, they pretty much match the best internet deal and you get plus the bonus of them being local to honor the clutch warranty.

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-04, 05:20 PM

I just took my old clutch out(exedy stage 1 organic) and placed it next to my new clutch (exedy stage 1 organic). Clearly the clutch disc is different. The pressure plate appears to be the same even though it has different numbers on it. So either Exedy upgraded their stage 1 disc in the last 2 years or Gruppe-s sold me an Exedy OEM replacement disc the first time. I tired to do some searching on NASIOC but it seems the site is down. Does anyone have any ideas? Also, the new throwout bearing has a lot of high temp grease on the arms. Should I clean a little off or just clean it all off?

Kevin M · 2009-10-04, 05:39 PM

That may very well be the OEM disc. Can you see any numbers on it still?

100_Percent_Juice · 2009-10-04, 06:10 PM

Numbers on the old disc
TA015B
6M05A

Numbers on the new disc
RU230A101
8K07A

Numbers on the old pressure plate
6M15
H22513
483001
6L30

Numbers on the new pressure plate
8K09
H22513
483001
8J22

The numbers in dark red were stamped on 2 different spring arms instead of on the outside rim of the pressure plate.

2009-10-01, 02:11 PM	#1
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Where to go to resurface a flywheel? Is Reno Clutch & Brake the only place in town to resurface a flywheel? I just called them and they said it would be $40 which seems a little high to me. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-01, 02:17 PM	#2
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Also, I just talked to Michael at Trans Craft (who does resurface flywheels) and he said that a wrx flywheel should technically not be resurfaced because of the construction. He said because it is a dual mass flywheel and due to the shape of the bottom it can't be securely mated to the table. He said that he has done a few before for in house jobs and they set it up with dial indicators and follow the flywheel the entire time to make sure its ok but, he doesn't recommend doing it. He would charge $50. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-01, 02:32 PM	#3
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Couldn't you have conducted this conversation in your head? hahaha.... J/k, I have nothing to add. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2009-10-01, 02:36 PM	#5
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Yeah, as I understand it, my 05 Legacy GT has a dual mass flywheel, and was the first Subaru (at least in the new turbo era) to have one. When I was looking at options, I was thinking of going with a WRX clutch and flywheel from an '02-'06 since they were all single mass. In the end, I went with Exedy for an 02-06 WRX. Regardless, $40 sounds like a price I was quoted for resurfacing before I told them about the dual mass. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2009-10-02, 06:28 AM	#6
MPREZIV Token Real Name: Le Stig Afrique? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sitting next to a big yellow box Posts: 3,589 Car: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Class: 05 TDSP No, I won't work on your car. F your car*	Take it to Reno Clutch and Brake, and pay them the $40. Since "Michael" has no idea what he's talking about, I wouldn't trust him with it. Just my opinion. Nick hit the nail on the head. __________________ "...these condoms have a topical anesthetic to reduce sensitivity, so you can last longer. What a paradox. You can't feel a thing, but you can f*ck for HOURS..."

2009-10-02, 07:35 AM	#7
ARORA_808 EJ18 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: under the S4 Posts: 33 Car: Audi S4 Class: my own...LOL Do you possess the constitution and faith to go as far as needed?	Joel, reno clutch and brake..... they just did the S4's flywheel and its a dual mass..... and they did the Sti's and the TR's and a whole bunch of honda's in the past, $40 is a good price. __________________ 4 rings of Fury!!!!!!

2009-10-02, 07:44 AM	#8
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Thanks for the input guys. I think I will do that. I guess the first thing I can do is post a picture of my flywheel to see if it looks like it needs to be resurfaced. I will do that today. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-02, 08:08 AM	#9
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	With all the problems you had with your clutch, I'd think a fresh surface would be good regardless of how it looks, but I have no idea what I'm talking about, just a guess. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-10-02, 08:10 AM	#10
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	At one point, RCB advertised free flywheel turning with clutch purchase... not sure if that is still true, but worth considering if you are buying parts as well. __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2009-10-02, 08:38 AM	#11
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	I already have a new Exedy stage 1 organic clutch kit sitting in the garage. Cody, I am currently running the gruppe-s LW flywheel which is in my opinion, the cause of my problems. The flywheel that I am talking about resurfacing is the stock flywheel that I kept from the first time I replaced the clutch. You do have a good point though, I don't want to really horse around with the clutch since I am growing tired of having to take my transmission out. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-02, 09:00 AM	#12
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	That's the clutch I have along with an Act Streetlite flywheel. It'll be nice for you to get rid of the deceleration noise going back to the stock flywheel. I am happy with my setup though. What are the reviews like on the Gruppe-S FW? __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-10-02, 09:15 AM	#13
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	I have never searched for the reviews and I think that was my downfall. At the time they were selling the clutch for a price that no other vendors could touch and it was packaged with their LW flywheel. I don't think I am the only one to complain about it but really I have nothing to compare it to. All I know is that I have about 5 friends with the same exedy stage 1 clutch including you who say, "yeah that feels different than my clutch". __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-02, 09:20 AM	#14
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Ya, it felt like launching with E-brake on. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-10-02, 09:28 AM	#15
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Yeah, so once I go back to the stock flywheel it should be good. If not, I guess I can try to figure out what else is wrong. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-02, 11:10 AM	#16
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	I'd still recommend the ACT Streetlite if you're able to spring the $230 bucks or so you can find them for. Excellent mod. I've used 3. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-10-02, 11:16 AM	#17
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Here are a few pictures of my stocker. There was some rust on it from leaving it outside a little last year. I just scrubbed it off with a little sandpaper. Attached Thumbnails __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-02, 07:07 PM	#18
ARORA_808 EJ18 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: under the S4 Posts: 33 Car: Audi S4 Class: my own...LOL Do you possess the constitution and faith to go as far as needed?	The starter ring looks a little chewed up, and its pretty rusty, ever thought of just buying a new one? It cant be that expensive....lol, just check the price on one from audi for the S4 and you will gladly pay for a new one for the subie.....Oh and be sure to change that throw out bearing...it looks nasty.....I know you know, but never hurts to remind. __________________ 4 rings of Fury!!!!!! Last edited by ARORA_808; 2009-10-02 at 07:11 PM. Reason: idk

2009-10-02, 09:25 PM	#19
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	I could sell you my stocker. It only saw the stock clutch. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-10-02, 10:58 PM	#20
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	My stocker only saw the stock clutch... and your mom! Anyways, I just decided to resurface the clutch myself. I think I did a pretty swell job. I will post pics tomorrow. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-03, 03:42 PM	#21
cody Candy Mountain Real Name: Cody Join Date: May 2005 Location: Californication Posts: 7,751 Car: 03 Pussy Wagon, now with more pink! Class: TESP OMG Internet!	Ya, but I didn't try to start the car when it was already running a billion times and then leave it outside to get nice and rusty. __________________ Slow and low, that is the tempo.

2009-10-03, 06:23 PM	#22
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	I'm just playing. The wear on the starter ring is very minimal and all the rust came off pretty easy. I took it to Reno Clutch & Brake which is now at the top of N. Edison. They did a great job, had it back to me in 20min and it only cost $30. Also, they gave me a price on the clutch kit and if you figure in the cost of having your flywheel resurfaced for free by them, they pretty much match the best internet deal and you get plus the bonus of them being local to honor the clutch warranty. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-04, 05:20 PM	#23
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	I just took my old clutch out(exedy stage 1 organic) and placed it next to my new clutch (exedy stage 1 organic). Clearly the clutch disc is different. The pressure plate appears to be the same even though it has different numbers on it. So either Exedy upgraded their stage 1 disc in the last 2 years or Gruppe-s sold me an Exedy OEM replacement disc the first time. I tired to do some searching on NASIOC but it seems the site is down. Does anyone have any ideas? Also, the new throwout bearing has a lot of high temp grease on the arms. Should I clean a little off or just clean it all off? Attached Thumbnails __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

2009-10-04, 05:39 PM	#24
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	That may very well be the OEM disc. Can you see any numbers on it still? __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2009-10-04, 06:10 PM	#25
100_Percent_Juice (40 percent vodka) Real Name: Joel Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 4,446 Car: 2004WRX Class: Baby-Hauler/GroceryGetter	Numbers on the old disc TA015B 6M05A Numbers on the new disc RU230A101 8K07A Numbers on the old pressure plate 6M15 H22513 483001 6L30 Numbers on the new pressure plate 8K09 H22513 483001 8J22 The numbers in dark red were stamped on 2 different spring arms instead of on the outside rim of the pressure plate. __________________ "A power nap is when you sleep on someone who is weaker than you." - Dimitri Martin

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