Source for JDM Transmissions? - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

sperry · 2004-12-09, 04:45 PM

Well, I figure I should start looking for a 6-speed in earnest. I still can't actually afford one, but I figure it will take some time to find one, so hopefully by the time I get a source, I'll have the money.

So I need two things: a comprehensive list of parts that I need for the swap, and a place to sell me said parts.

What I really want is a JDM 6-speed (closer ratios than the US STi) *without* the DCCD (I figure it's an unnecessary expense for a pure-tarmac car). I'd really like a set of Cusco or Quaife tarmac diffs for the tranny as well.

Here's my parts list so far:

- JDM 6-speed non-DCCD transmission
- R180 rear-end housing
- Excede Clutch and Lightened Flywheel
- Cusco Front/Mid/Rear diffs (may not need the rear diff, R180 might be good enough)
- Custom axles that mate the R180 to WRX rear hubs - or - STi rear axles, rear uprights/hubs, rear brakes
- Do the front WRX axles work w/ an STi tranny?
- Do I need a different drive shaft?
- Starter
- Tranny mount
- STi short shifter linkage
- STi shift knob w/ reverse lockout
- STi shifter boot
- Installation

Anyone know how much I should expect to pay for all that?

Also, keep in mind that I'm planning on an STi or EJ22T block and VF22/Large TopMount in the future. I don't think there are any compatability issues with a JDM 6-speed, but just in case, I'm mentioning it.

Nick Koan · 2004-12-09, 04:51 PM

Let's get the smart ass answer out of the way

Harry's?

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-12-09, 04:53 PM

Why are you looking for a new tranny now?

sperry · 2004-12-09, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

Why are you looking for a new tranny now?

I can't make more power in the WRX w/o a tranny upgrade. I'd rather upgrade the tranny 1st, rather than break it later.

6-speed gear ratios will also make my car *much* faster w/o having to even touch the motor. Especially the close ratio JDM gearset. As it is, the ratios used in the US 5-speed are designed to keep you out of boost to save gas and help emmisions. Since this is my track car... screw saving gas, and screw the environment... 1000 miles a year a 7mpg isn't gonna kill the spotted owl.

Plus, the SVX keeps asking me for a 5-speed swap, and guess what, the WRX 5-speed is as drop in as they come...

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-12-09, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sperry

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

Why are you looking for a new tranny now?

I can't make more power in the WRX w/o a tranny upgrade. I'd rather upgrade the tranny 1st, rather than break it later.

The money required could probably pay for a full cage, race seat & harness... just a thought.

I'd love more power in the Mustang, but I think I'm just gonna keep the engine the way it is for the forseeable future while I start getting track time in it. I'd rather do my learning in a relatively low power car, rather than a high-powered one...

MattR · 2004-12-09, 05:45 PM

But why on earth do you need your car to be so much faster ?

murphy · 2004-12-09, 05:55 PM

its not up and going yet. But the guy I bought my cosmo engine from is getting a new invester that has direct connections with japanese companies..and pretty soon whatever you want you can get..from what I was told yesterday just request it and you will get it...if it goes through it works out well with me...direct access to HKS japan..sweet...well for me but not you guys..here HKS is the

...

MattR · 2004-12-09, 06:07 PM

PM Spooln, have him bring some parts back from Japan.

Kevin M · 2004-12-09, 06:25 PM

Gruppe-S would be the quickest solution, if you're willing to work with them and basically place an order for what you want. Also, try talking to Nate, he has connections at Chaste Auto, and they do some importing. Alex at BozzSpeed can hook us up with Cusco diffs pretty cheap, so if you're serious about that part, let me know. Otherwise, you've mostly got it covered- it takes lots of parts, but getting them all at once isn't that big a deal. Also keep your eye out for deals like I got- get a US spec drivetrain and all the bits, then trade the gearbox and DCCD parts for a JDM box and cash. You should be able to come in between $4500-5500 for all parts necessary, especially if you get them all off the same car.

MikeK · 2004-12-09, 11:21 PM

Kevin's list has teh winz0rz!!

Also: http://www.kingpinperformance.com/

I have seen the guy from this place post about jdm tranny and engine swaps all the time on nasioc (he posts as both AZScoobie and Kingpin). I remember reading that they can now do a full v7 engine swap in a day, they have done so many of them.

example thread:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=668778

sperry · 2004-12-10, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

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Originally Posted by sperry

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Originally Posted by AtomicLabMonkey

Why are you looking for a new tranny now?

I can't make more power in the WRX w/o a tranny upgrade. I'd rather upgrade the tranny 1st, rather than break it later.

The money required could probably pay for a full cage, race seat & harness... just a thought.

I'd love more power in the Mustang, but I think I'm just gonna keep the engine the way it is for the forseeable future while I start getting track time in it. I'd rather do my learning in a relatively low power car, rather than a high-powered one...

The cage, seats, harnesses and fire system are on the list as well, since I need them all to be Solo1 legal.

I'm not planning on making more power quite yet. The tranny will not only prepare the car to handle more power, it will also make the power I've got now a whole lot more useful. I'm hoping w/ the close ratio 6-speed I will be competitive with the NESP STis running against them from NSM. Sure they'll still have about 30hp over me (you bastards and your re-maps) but I think my suspension and brakes still a tiny bit better. If I can make better use of the power I've got, I think I can hang.

The additional power comes later... maybe next year. Unless I find a complete STi drivetrain for cheap. (Hey what tranny came on the v7 JDM STi? It was a 5-speed wasn't it?

)

Kevin M · 2004-12-10, 10:33 AM

No, the bugeye STis all had 6 speeds.

sperry · 2004-12-10, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

No, the bugeye STis all had 6 speeds.

Sounds like I just need the complete motor/tranny out of a v7 STi then eh? 'Course, then Nate prolly can't tune a JDM ECU... will a WRX one work?

Kevin M · 2004-12-10, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

No, the bugeye STis all had 6 speeds.

Sounds like I just need the complete motor/tranny out of a v7 STi then eh? 'Course, then Nate prolly can't tune a JDM ECU... will a WRX one work?

Actually, EcuTek can flash any JDM Subaru... or you can just keep your US ECU, but you'd have to swap your TGV-having manifold onto the new motor. There would be pros and cons to either route. The complete drivetrain route might be a good call though... if you don't mind dropping the 10 Gs all at once.

sperry · 2004-12-10, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

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Originally Posted by sperry

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

No, the bugeye STis all had 6 speeds.

Sounds like I just need the complete motor/tranny out of a v7 STi then eh? 'Course, then Nate prolly can't tune a JDM ECU... will a WRX one work?

Actually, EcuTek can flash any JDM Subaru... or you can just keep your US ECU, but you'd have to swap your TGV-having manifold onto the new motor. There would be pros and cons to either route. The complete drivetrain route might be a good call though... if you don't mind dropping the 10 Gs all at once.

I think I'd rather have a newly built motor over some Japanese dude's project car. Also, didn't the JDM v7 have AVCS?

Kevin M · 2004-12-10, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sperry

I think I'd rather have a newly built motor over some Japanese dude's project car. Also, didn't the JDM v7 have AVCS?

Me too, and yes, although that can be circumvented. I may eventually switch to v7 heads if it turns out the Hydra for the RS can control AVCS.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-12-10, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

Actually, EcuTek can flash any JDM Subaru... or you can just keep your US ECU, but you'd have to swap your TGV-having manifold onto the new motor.

Whoa, you guys have high-speed trains on your manifolds!? That's awesome!

Ok ok, I'll shut up now...

Dean · 2004-12-10, 11:59 AM

In terms of sources, here are a couple from my 3S sources...

http://www.asapmotors.com/

http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/

More on google of course...

Kevin M · 2004-12-10, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean

In terms of sources, here are a couple from my 3S sources...

http://www.asapmotors.com/

http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/

More on google of course...

There are dozens and dozens of shops like those... I personally wouldn't call anyplace without a pretty good rep in the Subaru community, or at least a couple folks running around with stuff they got through a specific shop. Too much shadiness from the small guys.

JC · 2004-12-10, 04:13 PM

Lachute can probably get you whatever you want. Shipping might be expensive though. Keep in mind prices are CDN.

http://www.lachuteperformance.com/EN/index.html

Kevin M · 2004-12-10, 04:14 PM

Lachute is an excellent source, but like you said, shipping and going through 2 currency exchanges might kill you.

2004-12-09, 04:45 PM	#1
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Source for JDM Transmissions? Well, I figure I should start looking for a 6-speed in earnest. I still can't actually afford one, but I figure it will take some time to find one, so hopefully by the time I get a source, I'll have the money. So I need two things: a comprehensive list of parts that I need for the swap, and a place to sell me said parts. What I really want is a JDM 6-speed (closer ratios than the US STi) without the DCCD (I figure it's an unnecessary expense for a pure-tarmac car). I'd really like a set of Cusco or Quaife tarmac diffs for the tranny as well. Here's my parts list so far: - JDM 6-speed non-DCCD transmission - R180 rear-end housing - Excede Clutch and Lightened Flywheel - Cusco Front/Mid/Rear diffs (may not need the rear diff, R180 might be good enough) - Custom axles that mate the R180 to WRX rear hubs - or - STi rear axles, rear uprights/hubs, rear brakes - Do the front WRX axles work w/ an STi tranny? - Do I need a different drive shaft? - Starter - Tranny mount - STi short shifter linkage - STi shift knob w/ reverse lockout - STi shifter boot - Installation Anyone know how much I should expect to pay for all that? Also, keep in mind that I'm planning on an STi or EJ22T block and VF22/Large TopMount in the future. I don't think there are any compatability issues with a JDM 6-speed, but just in case, I'm mentioning it. __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2004-12-09, 04:51 PM	#2
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Let's get the smart ass answer out of the way Harry's? __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2004-12-09, 04:53 PM	#3
AtomicLabMonkey Nightwalker Real Name: Austin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oshkosh, WI Posts: 4,063 Car: '13 WRX YGBSM	Why are you looking for a new tranny now? __________________ "None of you seem to understand. I'm not locked in here with you.. you're locked in here with me."

2004-12-09, 05:45 PM	#6
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	But why on earth do you need your car to be so much faster ? __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-12-09, 06:07 PM	#8
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	PM Spooln, have him bring some parts back from Japan. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-12-09, 05:55 PM	#7
murphy EJ22 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: RENO Posts: 484 Car: 03 evo, 06 R6	its not up and going yet. But the guy I bought my cosmo engine from is getting a new invester that has direct connections with japanese companies..and pretty soon whatever you want you can get..from what I was told yesterday just request it and you will get it...if it goes through it works out well with me...direct access to HKS japan..sweet...well for me but not you guys..here HKS is the ...

2004-12-09, 06:25 PM	#9
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Gruppe-S would be the quickest solution, if you're willing to work with them and basically place an order for what you want. Also, try talking to Nate, he has connections at Chaste Auto, and they do some importing. Alex at BozzSpeed can hook us up with Cusco diffs pretty cheap, so if you're serious about that part, let me know. Otherwise, you've mostly got it covered- it takes lots of parts, but getting them all at once isn't that big a deal. Also keep your eye out for deals like I got- get a US spec drivetrain and all the bits, then trade the gearbox and DCCD parts for a JDM box and cash. You should be able to come in between $4500-5500 for all parts necessary, especially if you get them all off the same car. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2004-12-09, 11:21 PM	#10
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	Kevin's list has teh winz0rz!! Also: http://www.kingpinperformance.com/ I have seen the guy from this place post about jdm tranny and engine swaps all the time on nasioc (he posts as both AZScoobie and Kingpin). I remember reading that they can now do a full v7 engine swap in a day, they have done so many of them. example thread: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=668778

2004-12-10, 10:33 AM	#12
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	No, the bugeye STis all had 6 speeds. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2004-12-10, 11:59 AM	#18
Dean Señor Cheap Bastarde Real Name: Dean Join Date: May 2003 Location: $99 Tire Store Posts: 9,294 Car: $.04 STI Class: Fast,Cheap & Reliable=STI Deal, did somebody say Deal? Oh, Dean, yeah that's me.	In terms of sources, here are a couple from my 3S sources... http://www.asapmotors.com/ http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/ More on google of course... __________________ I am a Commodore PET --- Now get off my lawn you kids...

2004-12-10, 04:13 PM	#20
JC Ask me about dubs! Real Name: JC Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 2,895 Car: 2013 Triumph Speed Triple R	Lachute can probably get you whatever you want. Shipping might be expensive though. Keep in mind prices are CDN. http://www.lachuteperformance.com/EN/index.html __________________ Actually, I am a rocket scientist.

2004-12-10, 04:14 PM	#21
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Lachute is an excellent source, but like you said, shipping and going through 2 currency exchanges might kill you. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

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