The Official 2008 Formula 1 Thread!

[sperry]

Looks like STR is up for sale:

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/...ia-toro-rosso/

Anyone wanna go in on an F1 Team with me? I figure we just need like 5 people with $50M each to get us a single season. We'll call it "Groupe SECCS F1"! Who's in!?

[skimonkey30]

Massa is a joke

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...23125024.shtml

strange behaviour on the rear

I hope the rumors are true and Ferrari do put Vettel in the car

[sperry]

Originally Posted by skimonkey30

Massa is a joke

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...23125024.shtml

strange behaviour on the rear

I hope the rumors are true and Ferrari do put Vettel in the car

"I don't know what happened, I just lost the car completely," he was quoted as explaining to the British broadcaster ITV.

"There was strange behaviour on the rear, so I don't know," the Brazilian added.

Meh, it's Massa. He's well known to push too hard... kinda of a win or crash trying sort of driver. I'm sure he was just pushing to catch Kimi so he could pass him during the next round of pit stops, and lost the rear end due to being used to traction control, but I don't think he thought he was as close to the limit as he ended up being.

So, I'd call that "strange behaviour" if I was really used to TC too, to suddenly spin when you're at 9/10ths. It was unexpected and it caught him out. I don't see him really shirking the responsibility of the spin... I think he was probably genuinely surprised it happened.

[MattR]

Win it or Bin it!

[Nick Koan]

I just think this needs to be re-emphasized.

spoiler if you haven't watched malaysia yet.


From the press conference regarding spraying champagne on the podium:

“We should put it in the mouth, not in the eye,” Kimi joked

[url=http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/161146-0/kimi_votes_to_drink_champagne_not_spray_it.html]Link to article[/url]

[Joeyy]

Just finished watching the race. It was a pleasure with a stack of new tires around my chair.

[Nick Koan]

Ooh, Max Mosely in a sex scandal.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/30/f...m-sex-scandal/

The video reportedly depicts Mosley engaging the services of five prostitutes in London to stage a perverse reenactment of a Nazi concentration camp in which Mosley plays both victim and oppressor, alternately receiving lashes from a dominatrix and barking orders in German to the prostitutes dressed in pseudo-Auschwitz uniforms. The son of infamous wartime British fascist leader Oswald Mosley, who married Max's mother Diana in the presence of Adolf Hitler at a ceremony in the home of Nazi arch-propagandist Joseph Goebbels, Mosley had tried to help resuscitate his father's fascist political career before leaving politics for the world of motor racing.

Damn, I knew he had ties to the British Socialist party, but that's just fucking weird right there.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Ooh, Max Mosely in a sex scandal.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/30/f...m-sex-scandal/



Damn, I knew he had ties to the British Socialist party, but that's just fucking weird right there.

LOLWUT!?!

That sounds too over the top to be true.

[Nick Koan]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66276

Mosely saying he's sorry to the FIA but is going to stay on and pursue legal action against the newspaper. Also, he's denying the the Nazi portions of the story, but not the story as a whole.

And now it got boring. Let he who doesn't want a five hooker non-Nazi themed s&m orgy cast the first stone.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66276

Mosely saying he's sorry to the FIA but is going to stay on and pursue legal action against the newspaper. Also, he's denying the the Nazi portions of the story, but not the story as a whole.

And now it got boring. Let he who doesn't want a five hooker non-Nazi themed s&m orgy cast the first stone.

Meh. This is non-news. Just like the whole Clinton/Lewinsky crap, if it doesn't have any bearing on his job, it's just sensationalism bullshit. It'd be nice to live in a world where that crap coming out would just be ignored by the media because the public simply would care. But since we live in a world full of rubberneckers, this junk sells advertisement space, and new we get to wade through stuff like this down to crap like Entertainment Tonight.

[skimonkey30]

That was one hell of a hit kovalainen took

I was suprised by alonso's pace in the qualifying & GP. I wonder if the engine failure had anything to do with Renault allowing alonso to turn up the revs on his engine. I remember Machette mentioning something during the race about that with another driver after a radio conversation (heidfeld i think) or if the pace of the renault is really up there with the big 3.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by skimonkey30

That was one hell of a hit kovalainen took

I was suprised by alonso's pace in the qualifying & GP. I wonder if the engine failure had anything to do with Renault allowing alonso to turn up the revs on his engine. I remember Machette mentioning something during the race about that with another driver after a radio conversation (heidfeld i think) or if the pace of the renault is really up there with the big 3.

I think it's some of column A and some of column B. Renault's been working since the start of the season on the car Alonso used in Spain, so they may have appeared off pace at the fly-away races more than they really were simply because they were running an older spec car that didn't have all the new bits they had been testing since the season started. Plus, for his home GP, Alonso was running light on fuel in Q3 and aggressive with the revs... sort of a go or go home approach, as he really seemed to want to give his home crowd something to cheer about.

I'd say that Ferrari is currently the team to beat, and that McLaren is just a tick behind them. BMW and Renault are neck and neck for 3rd fastest, as it seems Renault's stepped up their game a touch starting in Spain. It'll be fun to watch them battle it out.

I just hope Super Aguri can come up with a deal to get them to finish out the season.

[skimonkey30]

Originally Posted by sperry

I think it's some of column A and some of column B. Renault's been working since the start of the season on the car Alonso used in Spain, so they may have appeared off pace at the fly-away races more than they really were simply because they were running an older spec car that didn't have all the new bits they had been testing since the season started. Plus, for his home GP, Alonso was running light on fuel in Q3 and aggressive with the revs... sort of a go or go home approach, as he really seemed to want to give his home crowd something to cheer about.

I'd say that Ferrari is currently the team to beat, and that McLaren is just a tick behind them. BMW and Renault are neck and neck for 3rd fastest, as it seems Renault's stepped up their game a touch starting in Spain. It'll be fun to watch them battle it out.

I just hope Super Aguri can come up with a deal to get them to finish out the season.

I agree that ferrari is definitely the team to beat

I as well hope super best friends can make the grid the rest of the season

[MattR]

We have like $134 left in the SECCS account....I vote we help Super happy best friends!!!!

[sperry]

Originally Posted by MattR

We have like $134 left in the SECCS account....I vote we help Super happy best friends!!!!

If I was some rich bastard, I'd totally kick down the $XXX million needed to save Super Aguri. I just love seeing them scrap it out with the big boys 'cause every now and then you get to see Sato put a sick ass pass on Alonso for position and points. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRJwZu5Qqio

The real problem w/ SA is that next season they're going to lose quite a bit of help from Honda as the FIA rules prevent factory B teams like SA and STR who are going to have to stand on their own... which means SA it just got a lot more expensive for SA to be competitive in '09.

[sperry]

This week in "As the F1 World Turns":

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...01095246.shtml

Ron Dennis has vehemently denied suggestions that he could be the unknown figure behind the covert investigation that triggered the Max Mosley sex scandal.

Mosley, who faces a confidence vote in his FIA Presidency next month, recently openly questioned the origin of the News of the World revelations.

He wrote in a letter to FIA affiliates in April that he had been pursued not by the tabloid newspaper, but for "reasons and clients as yet unknown."

The scandal aroused suspicions that Dennis may have ordered the investigation into Mosley's private life, in retaliation for the devastating 'spy scandal' and penalties of 2007.

"I categorically deny that I have anything to do with the News of the World's investigation into Mr Mosley," Dennis, chairman of the McLaren Group, told the Times.

He also denied that 'anyone' connected with his company, or anyone acting on his behalf, had anything to do with the revelations.


Dennis has written to Czech Automobile Association chief Radovan Novak, who recently intimated on Prague radio that the spy and sex scandals may share Dennis as the common link, for a clarification of his remarks.

Dennis confirmed that he is looking for Novak, a close ally of Mosley's, to "withdraw or correct" his statements.

It emerged just this week that Mosley has engaged an expert detective agency, Quest, to identify the source of the News of the World story.

Right, next thing we'll find out is that the camera man was Ross Braun, and that the French hookers were Flavio Briatore's illegitimate daughters, and that Fernando Alonso is actually a shape-shifting alien from area 51 that Bernie Ecclestone bought from the US government and made to look like a Spaniard to promote the sport because Mosley owes the King of Spain a favor for overlooking his underground drug cartel that he runs out of Madrid.

I mean, if you're going to make up sensational stories, at least make them plausible.

[sperry]

Looks like Super Aguri might just make it!

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/...eigl-is-close/

[skimonkey30]

Originally Posted by sperry

Looks like Super Aguri might just make it!

http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2008/...eigl-is-close/

fucking Honda

they killed the deal with Weigl earlier and couldve saved themselves millions last weekend but no NOW the deal is ok

[MattR]

Polly Shore should be the spokesman for Weigl. "I'm the Weeeeeeigl, buuuuuuddy!". That is all.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by MattR

Polly Shore should be the spokesman for Weigl. "I'm the Weeeeeeigl, buuuuuuddy!". That is all.

You doin' okay there Matt?

[MattR]

No, it's been a long month. Hahaha.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by skimonkey30

fucking Honda

they killed the deal with Weigl earlier and couldve saved themselves millions last weekend but no NOW the deal is ok

Fucking Honda, indeed.

Looks like they're going to vote down this deal as well... and in order to save themselves the embarrassment of asking SA to leave Turkey, they've been locked out of the track by Honda and Bernie.

This is fucking weak. Why in the world would anyone (Honda, FIA, F1, etc) be opposed to having a team race? There must be something I'm missing about why Honda is so opposed to Weigl buying out Super Aguri.

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...05154932.shtml

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...03110329.shtml

[Nick Koan]

Looks like SA is done for.

http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?T...42515&PO=42515

[sperry]

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Looks like SA is done for.

http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?T...42515&PO=42515

So sad.

You'd think there'd be some rich-ass company out there that would jump at the chance to back the team, at least get them through the season. And what's the deal w/ SS United and the "breach of contract". If they agreed to pay SA X dollars for the season, and the renege on the agreement, doesn't SA deserve some sort of legal satisfaction over the issue?

[Nick Koan]

Well from the looks of things, SS United doesn't even exist anymore either, so it might be hard to go after them. According to the Wikipedia page, the company website has been down ever since they defaulted on their sponsorship check.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Unit...26_Gas_Company