New Oct. Motor Trend Article... - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

dustinr · 2004-09-13, 07:35 PM

New article about the '05 STi and the new EVO VIII MR. I didn't realize the STI's lost so much power from the engine to the wheels, the EVO actually makes more HP to the wheels than the STI. Good article...
If you click on the pics then expand them they're easier to read.

Kevin M · 2004-09-13, 09:11 PM

Where did you see that the Evo put more power to the wheels? The STi doesn't really have more drivetrain loss than the Evo. Mitsubishi under-represents the Evo horsepower numbers.

qksubi · 2004-09-13, 09:17 PM

Kevin this is the article I was talking about at matt's on sunday

you where saying somthing about the drums on the dyno rememder

what did you say about that :?

Kevin M · 2004-09-13, 09:39 PM

Ah, there it is, I see it now.

Yeah, the Evo MR has a turbo that's bigger than the STi's actually. With the large turbo and smaller motor, it will always make more dyno horsepower without really being faster in a straight line. It's because of the way horsepower is calculated.

sybir · 2004-09-13, 09:43 PM

I don't know, but I call shenanigans when an STi makes only 233 to the wheels on a Dynojet.

Matt's car, while it was in "gifted mode", made what, 232 on our Mustang?

I hope I don't need to point out the gap in logic here......

tysonK · 2004-09-13, 09:51 PM

It's all wrong, just so wrong.

MattR · 2004-09-13, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sybir

I don't know, but I call shenanigans when an STi makes only 233 to the wheels on a Dynojet.

Matt's car, while it was in "gifted mode", made what, 232 on our Mustang?

I hope I don't need to point out the gap in logic here......

Yeah, something doesn't add up.

dustinr · 2004-09-13, 10:53 PM

And I guess the discussion of the EVO's having AYC in an earlier post is moot...the USDM cars don't get it. On another topic... I saw another article comparing the Mitsubishi Evo VIII MR FQ-400 to the Pagani Zonda and some other ultra exotic cars...

sp00ln · 2004-09-13, 10:57 PM

much love guys, much love <3

sp00ln · 2004-09-13, 11:00 PM

Oh, and the EVO MR slapped around the STI on the Top Gear track.

/devils advocate

Evo Mike · 2004-09-13, 11:01 PM

damn, i want those rims...

Evo Mike · 2004-09-13, 11:02 PM

spoolin... you just love the 4g63 waaaay to much...

sp00ln · 2004-09-13, 11:04 PM

sperry · 2004-09-14, 01:07 AM

If I could afford and simply find an MR... I'd get one over an STi. Owning a limited production EVO like that would be awesome. Plus I'd flog it on the race track.

Especially considering that Mistu may not be around much longer... that EVO8 MR might be a pretty rare beast. BTW: can you swap in AYC on a US car if you call Harry's and had it overnighted?

Kevin M · 2004-09-14, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

BTW: can you swap in AYC on a US car if you call Harry's and had it overnighted?

You have to remove the charcoal canister next to the fuel tank to make room for the electronics. If the wiring harnesses were there.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-09-14, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperry

Owning a limited production EVO like that would be awesome.

Plus it has vortex generators on the roof. Attention to aerodynamic detail like that on a production car is extremely rare.

MikeK · 2004-09-14, 08:50 AM

I've heard about the 340 hp version of the EVO MR, I thought that was the one coming here. Now I find out that the new american EVO MR has only 5 HP more ???? That is pathetic.

ArthurS · 2004-09-14, 09:00 AM

+ 6-speed
+ Other goodies

MikeK · 2004-09-14, 09:28 AM

True ... but why can't they just import the real versions of fast cars? Why do they always have to cut the nuts off the car first? (yeah I know, california emission + epa mileage requirements + blah blah blah)

sperry · 2004-09-14, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

True ... but why can't they just import the real versions of fast cars? Why do they always have to cut the nuts off the car first? (yeah I know, california emission + epa mileage requirements + blah blah blah)

Don't forget DOT's bass-ackwards sense of saftey... like "projector headlights put out too much light, and are therefore unsafe on the road".

qksubi · 2004-09-14, 10:58 AM

No water sprayer for ic thats gay instead you can roll the diff who cares

sperry · 2004-09-14, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qksubi

No water sprayer for ic thats gay instead you can roll the diff who cares

Unless the sprayer is automatic, it's pretty useless anyway.

Anyone of you STi guys have time at RFR to spray the IC? If so, what temp was it at and what did it come down to when you sprayed it? How did you know it needed to be sprayed?

W/o the ECU or an external computer monitoring and spraying the IC automatically, the sprayer's just a gimick... unless you're just using it to fend off heat soak when you're sitting in traffic... in which case, it's not like you really can drive fast, since you're stuck in traffic.

sp00ln · 2004-09-14, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

I've heard about the 340 hp version of the EVO MR, I thought that was the one coming here. Now I find out that the new american EVO MR has only 5 HP more ???? That is pathetic.

It's only a detune. A simple fix with some mods.

MikeK · 2004-09-14, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp00ln

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeK

I've heard about the 340 hp version of the EVO MR, I thought that was the one coming here. Now I find out that the new american EVO MR has only 5 HP more ???? That is pathetic.

It's only a detune. A simple fix with some mods.

Excellent!

tysonK · 2004-09-14, 08:42 PM

Perfect for them to void your warranty!

IF I bought an MR I would do thing to it except for wheels! Those wheels they come with are hot though!

and that is the god honest truth.

2004-09-13, 07:35 PM	#1
dustinr EJ18 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 99 Car: '04 Porsche Turbo X50, '05 STi, '05 Evo MR, '02 Ducati 998, '02 Ducati MH900e love the quote "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"	New Oct. Motor Trend Article... New article about the '05 STi and the new EVO VIII MR. I didn't realize the STI's lost so much power from the engine to the wheels, the EVO actually makes more HP to the wheels than the STI. Good article... If you click on the pics then expand them they're easier to read. Attached Thumbnails

2004-09-13, 09:11 PM	#2
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Where did you see that the Evo put more power to the wheels? The STi doesn't really have more drivetrain loss than the Evo. Mitsubishi under-represents the Evo horsepower numbers. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2004-09-13, 09:39 PM	#4
Kevin M EJ22T Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Reno Posts: 9,445 Car: '93/'01 GF6, mostly red Class: 19 FP	Ah, there it is, I see it now. Yeah, the Evo MR has a turbo that's bigger than the STi's actually. With the large turbo and smaller motor, it will always make more dyno horsepower without really being faster in a straight line. It's because of the way horsepower is calculated. __________________ FWD is the new AWD

2004-09-13, 09:43 PM	#5
sybir The Don Real Name: Aaron Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,097 Car: '97 Legacy / '05 FXT Class: low	I don't know, but I call shenanigans when an STi makes only 233 to the wheels on a Dynojet. Matt's car, while it was in "gifted mode", made what, 232 on our Mustang? I hope I don't need to point out the gap in logic here...... __________________ Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic.

2004-09-13, 09:51 PM	#6
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	It's all wrong, just so wrong. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2004-09-13, 09:17 PM	#3
qksubi Assault Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 996 Car: 13 Sti Hatch Satin white Class: TBSP/TT-2 Aim for the EYES!	Kevin this is the article I was talking about at matt's on sunday you where saying somthing about the drums on the dyno rememder what did you say about that :?

2004-09-13, 10:53 PM	#8
dustinr EJ18 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 99 Car: '04 Porsche Turbo X50, '05 STi, '05 Evo MR, '02 Ducati 998, '02 Ducati MH900e love the quote "Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum"	And I guess the discussion of the EVO's having AYC in an earlier post is moot...the USDM cars don't get it. On another topic... I saw another article comparing the Mitsubishi Evo VIII MR FQ-400 to the Pagani Zonda and some other ultra exotic cars... Attached Thumbnails

2004-09-13, 10:57 PM	#9
sp00ln EJ205 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,196	much love guys, much love <3 __________________ Turbo is a decent with modification.

2004-09-13, 11:00 PM	#10
sp00ln EJ205 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,196	Oh, and the EVO MR slapped around the STI on the Top Gear track. /devils advocate __________________ Turbo is a decent with modification.

2004-09-13, 11:01 PM	#11
Evo Mike EJ251 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 513	damn, i want those rims...

2004-09-13, 11:02 PM	#12
Evo Mike EJ251 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 513	spoolin... you just love the 4g63 waaaay to much...

2004-09-13, 11:04 PM	#13
sp00ln EJ205 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,196	__________________ Turbo is a decent with modification.

2004-09-14, 01:07 AM	#14
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	If I could afford and simply find an MR... I'd get one over an STi. Owning a limited production EVO like that would be awesome. Plus I'd flog it on the race track. Especially considering that Mistu may not be around much longer... that EVO8 MR might be a pretty rare beast. BTW: can you swap in AYC on a US car if you call Harry's and had it overnighted? __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2004-09-14, 08:50 AM	#17
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	I've heard about the 340 hp version of the EVO MR, I thought that was the one coming here. Now I find out that the new american EVO MR has only 5 HP more ???? That is pathetic.

2004-09-14, 09:00 AM	#18
ArthurS EJ207 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 3,707 Car: 2011 Chevy Battle Wagon	+ 6-speed + Other goodies __________________ Captain Murphy: I dub thee Sir Phobos, Knight of Mars, beater of ass. Be a hitter, babe.

2004-09-14, 09:28 AM	#19
MikeK Captain Turbo Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 3,318 Car: 05 STi	True ... but why can't they just import the real versions of fast cars? Why do they always have to cut the nuts off the car first? (yeah I know, california emission + epa mileage requirements + blah blah blah)

2004-09-14, 10:58 AM	#21
qksubi Assault Mechanic Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Reno Posts: 996 Car: 13 Sti Hatch Satin white Class: TBSP/TT-2 Aim for the EYES!	No water sprayer for ic thats gay instead you can roll the diff who cares

2004-09-14, 08:42 PM	#25
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	Perfect for them to void your warranty! IF I bought an MR I would do thing to it except for wheels! Those wheels they come with are hot though! and that is the god honest truth. __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

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