2004 rally cars are sick!! - Page 2 - Subaru Enthusiasts Car Club of the Sierras

ZER026D · 2004-01-18, 09:40 PM

I will be coming back soon .

ZER026D · 2004-01-18, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArthurS

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......

The red 'x' is invading.......run for cover.....

there I fixed it.

tysonK · 2004-01-19, 12:32 AM

the rear bumper on the mits doesn't look that crazy to me.

good job on the pics Evan! :shock:

sperry · 2004-01-19, 12:48 AM

Dizam! The new crop of rally cars are very sick! WRC '04 is going to be awesome! Let's just hope the ol' WRX is up to the challenge...

I'm wondering if we should expect a drastic re-design of the WRX in '07 to compete with these new smaller cars. Or maybe it's time Subaru stops rallying the Impreza and choose a smaller (new) platform?

Remember, the Legacy used to be their rally car till they specifically built the Impreza for rally.

BTW: Thanks for all the pics Evan!

ZER026D · 2004-01-19, 10:47 AM

Yeah I hope the old WRX can hang with these bad boys I feel that it can. No prob on the pix I am doing alot of surfing right now the snow suck this week so I am working on my site looking for new cars and stuff.

Nick Koan · 2004-01-19, 11:15 AM

The Impreza WRC is supposed to get a few tweaks around the 3rd or 4th round, if I recall correctly. There are new rules this year allowing plastic bumpers (rather then steel) and Subaru is planning some engine & chasis modifications. It is supposed to be the most significant advance of the car since the bug-eyes.

They are also planning on using an active damping suspension (active control of the shock absorbers) on the tarmac rallies this year. Subaru attempted to use this in Italy this year, but didn't create the expected results. Petter wanted more testing before he used it again (and I assume he got some, or will very soon). Unfortunately, the active suspension has a good chance of being canned by Subaru due to the FIA proposing to ban on active suspension in 2005. Why waste money on stuff that will get banned the next year? (Peugeot has active anti-sway bars that would get banned by this rule too).

There is also a minimum body shell rule this year that should help out Subaru. Previously, there was only a minimum weight rule, so teams like Peugeot (with a very light body shell) could add weight balast anywhere they wanted to the chasis to help their front-rear weight distribuition (as well as lower the COG). The 206 has a body shell lighter then the new minimum body shell rule, and this is believed to be a significant factor in speeding up the introduction of the 307. Oh, and a wierd sidenote, the 307 might be using a 4-speed gearbox on tarmac rallies.

Subaru might not have an distinct advantage, but they certianly don't have a disadvantage.

ZER026D · 2004-01-19, 11:53 AM

ZER026D · 2004-01-19, 11:57 AM

Maybe we will get to see the ford fiesta rally car but I think there using the fucus.

ZER026D · 2004-01-19, 11:58 AM

[img:3ee948ea3a=600]http://www.rallyzone.com/photos/news/ARG0212.jpg[/img:3ee948ea3a]

ZER026D · 2004-01-19, 12:00 PM

The best for last
[img:cb78abe42e=800]http://swrt.com/cpimages/473579.jpg[/img:cb78abe42e]

MattR · 2004-01-19, 12:01 PM

Damn its good to see that #1 on a Subaru. I can't wait to see the race this weekend.

Nick Koan · 2004-01-19, 12:11 PM

That Ford Rallye Concept (most likely a Fiesta when it goes into production/competition) is for JWRC not the WRC.

ZER026D · 2004-01-19, 12:16 PM

Thats what I saw someware to I wish they would use that in the WRC it looks way better then the Fucus.

AtomicLabMonkey · 2004-01-19, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZER026D

Maybe we will get to see the ford fiesta rally car but I think there using the fucus.

That cage looks like it could use a little help.

MattR · 2004-01-19, 11:18 PM

I heard that Hyundia has decided not to return until 2006, and it looks like Skoda has withdrawn from the 2004 WRC...

edit: Looks like Skoda has decided to run only one car in limited events, they will not appear on the WRC until round 6 in Greece. Sucks to see rides dropping off, especially now with the shortage of factory seats.

Nick Koan · 2004-01-20, 12:29 AM

Yeah, Skoda is only doing the european rounds this year. And Dider Auriol was let go

Probably for the best, but its a shame to see Auriol leave the sport.

sperry · 2004-01-20, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZER026D

The best for last
[img:39801ac7ff=800]http://swrt.com/cpimages/473579.jpg[/img:39801ac7ff]

RICE

2004-01-18, 09:40 PM	#26
ZER026D EJ251 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Car: 01 is300 / 87 rx4 Class: ? drive fast take chances	I will be coming back soon . __________________ Subaru using the slightly different Exkimo spelling "Soebahrue" which is pronounced EXACTLY the same, it means "Man who beds with seals" I saw Chimok down on the ice floe doign that thing with the seals again. He's a total Soebahrue. www.level4racing.com

2004-01-19, 12:32 AM	#28
tysonK warehouse SECCS Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SoCal... Posts: 6,253 Car: 04 Evo 99 Cadillac Class: street de le mod	the rear bumper on the mits doesn't look that crazy to me. good job on the pics Evan! :shock: __________________ Anjali? Anjali?

2004-01-19, 12:48 AM	#29
sperry The Doink Real Name: Scott Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 20,335 Car: '09 OBXT, '02 WRX, '96 Miata Class: PDX/TT-6 The way out is through	Dizam! The new crop of rally cars are very sick! WRC '04 is going to be awesome! Let's just hope the ol' WRX is up to the challenge... I'm wondering if we should expect a drastic re-design of the WRX in '07 to compete with these new smaller cars. Or maybe it's time Subaru stops rallying the Impreza and choose a smaller (new) platform? Remember, the Legacy used to be their rally car till they specifically built the Impreza for rally. BTW: Thanks for all the pics Evan! __________________ Is you is, or is you ain't, my con-stit-u-ints?

2004-01-19, 10:47 AM	#30
ZER026D EJ251 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Car: 01 is300 / 87 rx4 Class: ? drive fast take chances	Yeah I hope the old WRX can hang with these bad boys I feel that it can. No prob on the pix I am doing alot of surfing right now the snow suck this week so I am working on my site looking for new cars and stuff. __________________ Subaru using the slightly different Exkimo spelling "Soebahrue" which is pronounced EXACTLY the same, it means "Man who beds with seals" I saw Chimok down on the ice floe doign that thing with the seals again. He's a total Soebahrue. www.level4racing.com

2004-01-19, 11:15 AM	#31
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	The Impreza WRC is supposed to get a few tweaks around the 3rd or 4th round, if I recall correctly. There are new rules this year allowing plastic bumpers (rather then steel) and Subaru is planning some engine & chasis modifications. It is supposed to be the most significant advance of the car since the bug-eyes. They are also planning on using an active damping suspension (active control of the shock absorbers) on the tarmac rallies this year. Subaru attempted to use this in Italy this year, but didn't create the expected results. Petter wanted more testing before he used it again (and I assume he got some, or will very soon). Unfortunately, the active suspension has a good chance of being canned by Subaru due to the FIA proposing to ban on active suspension in 2005. Why waste money on stuff that will get banned the next year? (Peugeot has active anti-sway bars that would get banned by this rule too). There is also a minimum body shell rule this year that should help out Subaru. Previously, there was only a minimum weight rule, so teams like Peugeot (with a very light body shell) could add weight balast anywhere they wanted to the chasis to help their front-rear weight distribuition (as well as lower the COG). The 206 has a body shell lighter then the new minimum body shell rule, and this is believed to be a significant factor in speeding up the introduction of the 307. Oh, and a wierd sidenote, the 307 might be using a 4-speed gearbox on tarmac rallies. Subaru might not have an distinct advantage, but they certianly don't have a disadvantage. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2004-01-19, 11:53 AM	#32
ZER026D EJ251 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Car: 01 is300 / 87 rx4 Class: ? drive fast take chances	__________________ Subaru using the slightly different Exkimo spelling "Soebahrue" which is pronounced EXACTLY the same, it means "Man who beds with seals" I saw Chimok down on the ice floe doign that thing with the seals again. He's a total Soebahrue. www.level4racing.com

2004-01-19, 11:57 AM	#33
ZER026D EJ251 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Car: 01 is300 / 87 rx4 Class: ? drive fast take chances	Maybe we will get to see the ford fiesta rally car but I think there using the fucus. __________________ Subaru using the slightly different Exkimo spelling "Soebahrue" which is pronounced EXACTLY the same, it means "Man who beds with seals" I saw Chimok down on the ice floe doign that thing with the seals again. He's a total Soebahrue. www.level4racing.com

2004-01-19, 11:58 AM	#34
ZER026D EJ251 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Car: 01 is300 / 87 rx4 Class: ? drive fast take chances	[img:3ee948ea3a=600]http://www.rallyzone.com/photos/news/ARG0212.jpg[/img:3ee948ea3a] __________________ Subaru using the slightly different Exkimo spelling "Soebahrue" which is pronounced EXACTLY the same, it means "Man who beds with seals" I saw Chimok down on the ice floe doign that thing with the seals again. He's a total Soebahrue. www.level4racing.com

2004-01-19, 12:00 PM	#35
ZER026D EJ251 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Car: 01 is300 / 87 rx4 Class: ? drive fast take chances	The best for last [img:cb78abe42e=800]http://swrt.com/cpimages/473579.jpg[/img:cb78abe42e] __________________ Subaru using the slightly different Exkimo spelling "Soebahrue" which is pronounced EXACTLY the same, it means "Man who beds with seals" I saw Chimok down on the ice floe doign that thing with the seals again. He's a total Soebahrue. www.level4racing.com

2004-01-19, 12:01 PM	#36
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	Damn its good to see that #1 on a Subaru. I can't wait to see the race this weekend. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-01-19, 12:11 PM	#37
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	That Ford Rallye Concept (most likely a Fiesta when it goes into production/competition) is for JWRC not the WRC. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

2004-01-19, 12:16 PM	#38
ZER026D EJ251 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 616 Car: 01 is300 / 87 rx4 Class: ? drive fast take chances	Thats what I saw someware to I wish they would use that in the WRC it looks way better then the Fucus. __________________ Subaru using the slightly different Exkimo spelling "Soebahrue" which is pronounced EXACTLY the same, it means "Man who beds with seals" I saw Chimok down on the ice floe doign that thing with the seals again. He's a total Soebahrue. www.level4racing.com

2004-01-19, 11:18 PM	#40
MattR El Matador Real Name: Matt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 10,660 Car: 2012 Toyota Tacoma Class: ?	I heard that Hyundia has decided not to return until 2006, and it looks like Skoda has withdrawn from the 2004 WRC... edit: Looks like Skoda has decided to run only one car in limited events, they will not appear on the WRC until round 6 in Greece. Sucks to see rides dropping off, especially now with the shortage of factory seats. __________________ "Dallas..We have a problem.”

2004-01-20, 12:29 AM	#41
Nick Koan JDM Cowboy Real Name: Nick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Somewhere Posts: 8,642 Car: 2015 Mazda 3	Yeah, Skoda is only doing the european rounds this year. And Dider Auriol was let go Probably for the best, but its a shame to see Auriol leave the sport. __________________ While a standard engine is powered by a belt connected to the crankshaft, a turbo engine runs on its own exhaust steam, making it more energy efficient. -- CNN

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