2009 Nissan GT-R

[down21car]

I hate to rain on some folks parade, but w/ ADM's that car will go over 100k in price.....
Just ask the people who have pursued the GT500!!!!

[Nick Koan]

Rawr.

Pics of the Super GT (nee JGTC) GT-500 version.

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/nissa...ce-car/463738/

[ShawnS]

[Nick Koan]

Wait, is the transfer case in the rear?

[cody]

I think it's the tranny. Looks like there's an input drive shaft and an output for the front wheels.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Wait, is the transfer case in the rear?

Yep, it's like the Vette with a rear trans-axle. It's got a 1:1 drive-shaft off the motor to the rear trans-axle, then a second drive-shaft running forward to turn the front wheels. There's some power loss associated with this arrangement, but the excellent weight distribution more than makes up for it. (Not to mention the like 500hp the car has )

[Kevin M]

Plus, they were running out of ways to make it more expensive.

[cody]

If it's really going to be available for $80K, I wouldn't consider that expensive, relatively speaking.

[Nick Koan]

Originally Posted by sperry

Yep, it's like the Vette with a rear trans-axle. It's got a 1:1 drive-shaft off the motor to the rear trans-axle, then a second drive-shaft running forward to turn the front wheels. There's some power loss associated with this arrangement, but the excellent weight distribution more than makes up for it. (Not to mention the like 500hp the car has )

Yeah, I remember looking at that setup on my model of the RS200.

But, I figured that was only for crazy group b cars, not production cars. Shows what I know.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by Nick Koan

Yeah, I remember looking at that setup on my model of the RS200.

But, I figured that was only for crazy group b cars, not production cars. Shows what I know.

That GrB RS200 would be cheaper and slower than the GT-R if they built it today.

[Kevin M]

Originally Posted by sperry

That GrB RS200 would be cheaper and slower than the GT-R if they built it today.

Yeah, and the Group B car might even get to keep its warranty!

[cody]

Its starting at $69,850.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/14/l...ain-at-69-850/

[Kevin M]

I wish I had a spare $90k, so I could get one and flip it for $100k on eBay or something.

[sperry]

Originally Posted by BAN SUVS

I wish I had a spare $90k, so I could get one and flip it for $100k on eBay or something.

People with "a spare $90k" lying around don't bother with the hassle of trying to eBay a supercar to make $10k.

[tysonK]

Originally Posted by sperry

People with "a spare $90k" lying around don't bother with the hassle of trying to eBay a supercar to make $10k.

Yeah I think they are the ones buying it for $100k on ebay cause they have a spare $100k.

[100_Percent_Juice]

I would rather have an 08' Shelby GT500 stang.

[cody]

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

I would rather have an 08' Shelby GT500 stang.

(Shelby GT500KR)




http://www.autoblog.com/2007/03/30/n...f-the-road-re/

Nice collector car, but I'd rather buy a GTR in a year or two when they're available for MSRP and all the bugs are worked out.

[moose]

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

I would rather have an 08' Shelby GT500 stang.

That would be lame.

[dayofpain]

sooooo, next year you can spend 80k and get a gtr.

OR you could drop 80k on an R34 grey market.

OR you could drop 50k on an R33 grey market.

OR you could spend 25k on an R32.....

OR you could buy a nismo 400 for around 65k. Last i checked which was a while ago there were only 256 nismo 400's left.

i guess if you really wanted you could spend 100k on one of the Gt Z-tune GT34's.... they used to sell for 170k, last one sold for alot less. i mean, they were the ALMOST gt35, or as close as anyone got to the real deal.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...ine/index.html

[JC]

You can get an R34 in the states for around $60k if you don't care if it's street legal.

I went to LA Auto Show yesterday and they had the new GTR there. First it was hard to see it since there was a huge crowd around it the entire time. Second it looks really hot. I don't think anyone will be confusing it for a 350z in person. It's definitely a car I could myself buying at some point.

[dayofpain]

yeah thats why i said 80. there are only a few shops that can make it legal. and those bastards charge quite a bit.

personally i have ALWAYS wanted the sledgehammer. fuck the scalpel. i tried to import one right around the time i bought my Sti. had an R33 imported by motorex, right around the time they went belly up. they tried for 4 weeks to make it smog and never could cause it was already modified. they were going to import another one for me a stock one, but they went up in smoke.

se la vi

[dustinr]

Originally Posted by 100_Percent_Juice

I would rather have an 08' Shelby GT500 stang.

Still trying to figure out how Ford managed to screw up 605hp. Read the article in Road and Track about the Mustang GT500 Super Snake; it should be a lot faster than it is with that much HP. 0-60 4.4 seconds... my Evo would come in 100th under that stock. 1/4 mile in 12.5... pretty good, but with 605 hp? Should be in the 11's... so maybe they geared it for speed... no... 150mph (elec. limited)
http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...helbyGT500.pdf

And all for $80,000 + GT-R looks a little better eh?

Atomic you sound a little bitter man... just because you can't afford one doesn't mean it's a steaming pile of poop. Have you ever driven anything exotic? Your idea of a perfect sports car is of the strictest since of the term; you think it means that priority needs to be put on making the car as light as possible with as much HP and Torque available as possible. The Evo and the STi fall into this category somewhat well. Are they refined? Are they quite at speed? Are they nice? Are they exclusive? No... STi's are rattle traps, accoding to the dealer that is normal, they are also loud at speed and you hear ever sound like you would in a race car, the doors seals leak water, the paint sucks, the suspension is lazy but yet still bumpy and not supple on city streets; but... the car will haul the mail, it's fast and quick at the sake of refinement. If all your concerned with is strictly performance then they are perfect for you. I went through that faze.. it was fun. But then I would go for a ride in an exotic car and they had the best of both worlds. Great performace, along with comfort, refinement, quiteness. It was nice... not so harsh an environment to be in.

If you ever get the chance, drive a Modena or a 430. It's an absolutely mind blowing experience. And not just because it's a Ferrari. They are the best of both worlds. They have stock, with no mods, what a maxed out tuner car can only hope to have as far as performance. Yet, they feel very well made; they're solid, they're quite at speed, and the suspension setup is almost too good to be true. You can drive one around on crappy bumpy roads and it eats up the roughness like a Cadilac, but yet has no body roll, and perfect dampening at high speeds too. It's just a higher quality product that also happens to have a gorgeous form..and sound! Granted, it's out of the cost range of a lot of people, but that doesn't mean that they're useless. It just sucks for the true auto enthusiast that would truely enjoy it. Instead, like happens often unfortunetly, some guy buys one just because of what it is, and has no idea what it was designed and or capable of doing. Hence why you always see older 55+ men putting around in Z06's and Porsches.

My neighbor's dad bought a Z06 and brought it over, he went inside and I was talking to my neighbor about what a shame it is that the car would never even get to stretch it's legs and that it was destined to live it's life at 85 mph with the ever so occasional run up to maybe 120mph. We went inside and I asked his dad, "Tom, what's the fastest you've gotten that thing up to?" ... " I got'er up to around 120 before I let off, but she was going strong" I just looked at my neighbor and said "See what I mean?" he laughed...

[tysonK]

Does the new mustang sill have a solid rear axle?

[MPREZIV]

I know that the Cobras had independant rear suspension, far back as '99, maybe further, (not sure when they started the newer body cobra...) but not the GT. Not sure about the new ones, but it would make sense...

[sperry]

Originally Posted by dustinr

Atomic you sound a little bitter man... just because you can't afford one doesn't mean it's a steaming pile of poop. Have you ever driven anything exotic? Your idea of a perfect sports car is of the strictest since of the term; you think it means that priority needs to be put on making the car as light as possible with as much HP and Torque available as possible.

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I think you missed the part where AtomicLabMonkey designed race cars.

To him anything more than this:



Is just unnecessary weight. And he's got a point. Sure that Ferrari "with no mods, [has] what a maxed out tuner car can only hope to have as far as performance". But so what? If you're coming even close to that car's ability on the street, you're an idiot that doesn't deserve a car like that. If you're taking it to the track, you're still slower than real race cars.

So, like ALM says, supercars like the GT-R are in fact overkill and useless vehicles. They are the exact same thing as a Hummer on 24" wheels. They are simply show-off cars. No doubt they're nice... I'd love to own a Ferrari, but I can go just as fast at the race track in a purpose built racer, and drive around in a new Lexus that's nicer, all for 1/10th the cost of a Modena. The Ferrari, the GTR, even the Z06... they're all excessive. Not steaming piles... but definitely wastes of money, unless you've got truckloads of disposable income (or an idiot that wants to look like they do).